Ideas To Improve Halo 5: Guardians

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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Halo 5: Guardians could be so much better, I feel like 343i. doesn’t use it’s full potential.
That’s where we - the Community come to play in our role to shape it into the game we want it to be.
I know alot of people have different visions on this, or maybe something they want to add.
So please tell me if you agree or disagree with some of these ideas.

  • Multiplayer:____The multiplayer in Halo 5 is absolutely fantastic.
    One big issue to me is the Spawn system though…
    I have times where I spawn and instantly get killed (happens rather often),
    or I spawn in the middle of the battlefield.
    I think it could use some work, maybe with a system that
    can tell when a enemy is near so it spawns you to a safer area instead.
    Another thing that would make Multiplayer alot more fun would be a Social playlist.
    The community in general has been asking for this for a while now.
    I think Halo Reach is a very good example for that. We had so many gametypes as options,
    on Halo 5 however we are pretty limited and get gametypes one by one.
    I see no reason why 343i. can’t give us an actual social playlist and let us decide what exactly we want to play.
    Competitive is good and all but I think we all want to move away from the serious side of Halo sometimes and just play to have fun.
    And also… add more Alien Maps.
    The Maps in Halo 5 feel very stale, mainly because 90% is UNSC with same textures, and remixed versions of other Maps.

  • UI:
    The UI in Halo 5 could use alot of work. We can’t even see which Medals we earned after a Match.
    Halo 4, Reach and MCC are good examples. The UI’s were pretty good actually, I don’t know why they took out so many features.
    I know change needs to happen in Halo in general, but don’t just change it for the sake of change.
    If something isn’t broken, don’t try to fix it.

  • Forge:
    Halo 5 has the best Forge for sure (atleast to me) and I don’t think it needs to change.
    I do want to give some ideas though.
    We all know by now we won’t see AI’s in Forge anytime soon, but with the power of scripting
    the Community has done mindblowing things. Imagine what the community could do if we just had
    bodies of Marines, Elites, Spartans, Forerunners and so on. With scripting we could do so much with that.
    I’m sure it wouldn’t be too hard for 343i. to use vehicles and weapons from older Halos and implement them to H5’s Forge.
    Just give us the tools 343… that is all we want.
    I know I seem spoiled because we are already getting alot for Forge, and they don’t get payed for the time they invest into it.
    So a big Thank you to 343i. for that. Again, I’m not demanding anything I’m giving ideas for 343 and the Community to see.

  • Customization:____This is related to what I just mentioned above.
    I know 343i. wants to stick to the more ‘Serious Route’ with Halo lore wise but please…
    …let us play different species. Give us the tools.
    The Sangheili Fanbase was very strong in reach. Taking them out was a big ‘No’ specially for Machinima.
    Imagine having the option to play as Spartans, Elites, or Forerunners.
    If it wouldn’t be balanced for Multiplayer then atleast give us the option to play them in Custom games.
    Now I want to go into Armor. The best Armor Customization was without a doubt Halo Reach.
    Since Halo 4 343i. took out more and more options.
    All the things you could add to your Spartan on Reach gave it a more ‘Human’ feeling, so I think they should definitely give that a return.
    I don’t think Halo should be too serious or strict. Specially not when it comes to Customization.
    And please 343… let us choose our Shoulders, legs, chest etc separately.
    …Cough Black undersuit.
    General Ideas:
    I think Halo turned out to be way too Cartoony now.
    Reduced Blood, gore and swearing, so if the Flood was to ever return I wonder how 343i wants to pull it off.
    I mean Halo 5 is rated T, not sure if they want it to be like that for future Halos aswell.
    Halo to me was much better when there was blood, and gore… and strong language. A more realistic feel to it.
    Feel free to give your opinion, I’m curious what other people think. :]
    - Yami

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Haha, Yami, I feel your Pain… :'D :confused:

I got not much else 2 say to your Statements… I would prefer a Halo with Customization like in REACH. There were so many Options & I don’t care 4 this so called “Serious Route”. They could just give us a >insert bad word here< Social Playlist/Gamemode (“Invasion” caugh caugh) were we could play as Elites (Yeah, with different Abilities & Traits 2), where would be the Point of Maybe Stronger Shields/Bigger Targets, since it’s SOCIAL!!
We need way more Gamemodes and with Way more I mean like 10 - 15. Oddball (which in Fact is in, I don’t know why 343i decided 2 not take it into Matchmaking… >.>), Headhunter, Stockpile, Regicide, Juggernaut, Hotshot, Power Slayer, 1 Sided & Multi Gametypes (Multi Bomb or Multi Flag as an Example…), KotH (because then u could built other Gamemodes with it, like Swat KotH…) or ViP & I don’t even counting everything. With this the Game would be halfway perfect.
The Next Point are the Maps… They get so stale. Everything is an UNSC Facility & we got what? 1 (Real!) Covenant Map? And this was a Remake. Just look at Maps from Halo 3, Halo 4 & Halo: Reach or Halo 2: Anniversary (especially the DLC of this Installments). I’m a Big Fan of Aesthetics & if the Maps don’t look right, I get bored pretty Fast… Offshore, Standoff, Ghost Town, The whole Mythic DLC, Guardian, Monolith, Harvest, Pitfall, Outpost, (The City Map from H4’s last DLC I don’t know the Name of in the Moment… :'D), Boardwalk, Spire, Countdown, Battle Creek, Highlands, Stone Town, Shrine, Warlock/Warlord & so on (before it get’s counted as Spam… :'D), every Map was Different!!
The Next Point is the Radar… The Game is so fast a Radar <25m is just Pointless. Yeah, yeah… I need to work on my awareness, I get it… Right.

The UI is good. I think I read somewhere, that Post Game Medals would make it in, somewhere between MoR and HW and than it’s Perfect for me.

I’m not a Forger like you, but I heard it should be pretty damn good, so stay with it. The only One Point I can tell is, that the Structures need some kind of “Skins” because I hate them because of their bland look, which is just wahhhh.

For your General Part: Yeah, now you bring it (them) up… I would like to see Flood Maps as well. xD
And the Beta looked so much better from Art Direction! Till today I don’t even know why they removed the breakable Energy Shields on Truth. They were so cool, but why don’t change Things to the Bad. But since it is too much to improve on Halo 5 what we brought up here, I hope they take some of it to Halo 6, than I’m fine. And if they do that, I hope they Change from the different Skins for different kind of the same Weapon 2 different Look/Attachments for different kind of the Same Weapon. That is everything I could think of right now & you brought the Most Part up by yourself… xD

And I hope it gets more Replies cause the Time I started I was the First One… :confused:
Nice Topic & see you later… ^^

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@Sierra Cyken
Hey! Nice to see you here.
Hm, you think the UI is really good? I strongly disagree and it needs work for sure, but I 100% agree with you on the Radar bit. They reduced the range and since then the radar is literally useless. By time you see a Enemy on your Radar you’re already taken down.
Also yeah I miss Invasion I mean there are so many things they can do with Halo 5 and Gametypes, old and new.

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I agree on pretty much all of your points. The UI for both the REQ stations and REQ collection are awful. Trying to just view armor combinations for fun is irritating when I have to go through so many sets of them. The REQ stations are laggy and it sucks to have to scroll through twenty Assault Rifle variants to get to the one I want. Customization is weak. Maps feel a bit repetitive.

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@EMPEROR NOVA01
Oh don’t even get me started with the REQ System.
I’m not a Fan of it at all and i don’t think it should make it into future Halo Games.
I prefer it when you actually have to earn Armor achievement or credit wise.
Makes it feel more special wearing it. I’m weating Vales armor in halo 5 which is my favorite armor.
However it doesn’t feel special getting it cause the REQ System is just random.
What do you think of the REQ System?

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Honestly it would be increase shield strength to spartans (to where it doesn’t feel like we’re wearing paper mixed with duck tape) , increase armor on vehicles cuz let’s be honest here its SAD that the vehicles in the game just fall apart so quickly, fix a few issues with splattering enemy players, and last but not least! 343 STOP LISTENING to the mfing MLG fags who basically ruined this game for a large margin of players. Seriously if you need to spend hours getting raped to just get decent at a game there’s a problem there.

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I agree with you @takua me, the Vehicles do feel very weak, when you stand on a Wraith for example and it gently moves your shields go down. However you could’ve said it more respectful 343 do their best to please people but you can never please everyone. So be a little more respectful please. :]

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> @EMPEROR NOVA01
> Oh don’t even get me started with the REQ System.
> I’m not a Fan of it at all and i don’t think it should make it into future Halo Games.

Ahh, I totally forgot about the UI for the Req System! This is truly…Yeah, u know… :'D
I was just thinking of The Main Menu, Post Game Report, “Menu” Menu (? :‘D; if u press “Menu” Button) & knowing Post Game Medals & a way better Carnage Report is coming in MoR I didn’t had a Problem with that.
But the UI for the Req System, God, how awful… It’s a Pain to scroll through 378 Weapon Variants just to get the One u want, why not let us turn not needed Ones off…? Next thing is the 100.002 Vehicle Variants with just other Skins & more Armor. We only need max 2 of them, One Normal (with the heaviest Armor from all of them, because u said it - they’re made out of Paper) & an ONI Variant with maybe stronger Armor & the Explosive Rounds. The Sword Variants could go, too. Just give the normal Ones there Armor & get Rid of them. Back to my initial Point for that: Then you could have, like with the Weapons: A Menu for Vehicle Skins or maybe an In Game Option (x, likely) to Change them… I would prefer that way, cause the Most Vehicles would get a Buff this way.
Armor Menu:
Ouhh. My. God. Sometimes you got 4 Variants for one Helmet. Just as Above. Make a Standard Variant & a Skin Menu (x, again) for the Rest of the same kind. It would just look so much better…!
But Generally, for Halo 6 (because C’mon, Money is flowing like nothing else before with the Req System…), I would like to see (Haha, REACH again) a Fusion of REACH’ System & the One from Guardians:
Let us earn ExP/cR for raising our SR, but take Military & Mythic Grades (Field Marshall/Nova/Inheritor/Co.) back in, but let us buy Armor from it! Maybe get a SR-Wall in (i.E. u must be “Legend”/SR105 to buy this iTem…), make most (if not all) Emblems Commendation/Achievement Rewards & take the Rest for the Req System. This way would only be Weapons, Vehicles & some cosmetic Things & Emblems be in it, so I don’t see that coming. xDD
Maybe you can earn Every Armor in it too, without the Restriction of your SR, this would also be cool. But take most Emblems out of it… Please… T-T :'D
If you go back 2 Reach Costumization u got even more Reqs & Cash Flow & everyone (Meh, probably not EVERYone…) would be happy!
Back 2 the Fusion: Now we talked ReqSystem, Leveling up & Armor Costumization let’s take a Look on the Ranking System: This could stay as it is, because it works fine… More or less. I got just one (or 2, haha) Regards: Make Seasons longer, like 2 - 4 Months & for better Initial Rankings take like 25 - 40 Matches before you get in your Division. This Way the System can better collect Information about your truly Skill Level & you don’t get ranked too high or too low. Only Problem with that would be the Long waiting Time before you get in your Division, but if the Season go like 2.5 or 3 Months I wouldn’t see a Problem there. The Divisions themselves can stay like now: Bronze (1-6), Silver (1-6), Gold (1-6), Platinum (1-6), Diamond (1-6; And Please don’t call it “Raute” in German anymore… >.>), and the both “Pro” Leagues Onyx (1.500<) & Champion (Top200, min. 1.800 Onyx). This whole System would be Perfect in my Eyes & this way I even wouldn’t need a 1 to 50 TrueSkill System… ^^

That’s everything I can think of right now, but that is something you can’t build for Halo 5: Guardians because it’s too much of a Change (except longer Seasons & Ranking Rounds which I would preferably take…)

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> @EMPEROR NOVA01
> Oh don’t even get me started with the REQ System.
> I’m not a Fan of it at all and i don’t think it should make it into future Halo Games.
> I prefer it when you actually have to earn Armor achievement or credit wise.
> Makes it feel more special wearing it. I’m weating Vales armor in halo 5 which is my favorite armor.
> However it doesn’t feel special getting it cause the REQ System is just random.
> What do you think of the REQ System?

The REQ system is okay to me. If it isn’t a part of future games, I think it’ll improve the game. If it isn’t removed, I hope at least some of the armor and other unlockables are locked behind achievements so that using them actually means something. In fact, I think that if it is kept, keeping all customization items out of the REQ pool will improve the system by so much.

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@Sierra Cyken

> “It’s a Pain to scroll through 378 Weapon Variants just to get the One u want, why not let us turn not needed Ones off…?”

Well you could just delete the guns from your Reqs that you don’t want/need and have it alot more simple. That’s how I do it. I love the Vehicle Skin idea, like in Halo 3 on the snow map, the Vehicles would get a icy texture on them and they had I believe it was a camouflage Skin.

> "But Generally, for Halo 6 (because C’mon, Money is flowing like nothing else before with the Req System…), I would like to see (Haha, REACH again) a Fusion of REACH’ System & the One from Guardians:
> Let us earn ExP/cR for raising our SR, but take Military & Mythic Grades (Field Marshall/Nova/Inheritor/Co.) back in, but let us buy Armor from it! Maybe get a SR-Wall in (i.E. u must be “Legend”/SR105 to buy this iTem…), make most (if not all) Emblems Commendation/Achievement Rewards & take the Rest for the Req System. This way would only be Weapons, Vehicles & some cosmetic Things & Emblems be in it, so I don’t see that coming. xDD
> Maybe you can earn Every Armor in it too, without the Restriction of your SR, this would also be cool. But take most Emblems out of it… Please… T-T :'D"

I agree with you mostly, the Emblems need to go from the Req system. Currently they are your reward for finishing Commendatios which is very underwhelming. You finish let’s say all Weapon Commendation… and you get an emblem you may not even like. I want maybe a Legendary Helmet, or other Armor pieces. It would make it so much more interesting and gave people a reason to actually do the Commendations. And yes I want to see Military ranks in Halo like in Reach to come back aswell, and maybe improve from it. I was never a Fan of SR in H4 and H5. Halo 3 also had a good ranking System, if not even better than Reach. But yeah just Vehicle and Weapons should be in the Req System for sure. Customizable stuff should be earned (except Emblems… please just give them to us like in old Halos, except a few special ones to unlock too).

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> > @EMPEROR NOVA01
> > Oh don’t even get me started with the REQ System.
> > I’m not a Fan of it at all and i don’t think it should make it into future Halo Games.
> > I prefer it when you actually have to earn Armor achievement or credit wise.
> > Makes it feel more special wearing it. I’m weating Vales armor in halo 5 which is my favorite armor.
> > However it doesn’t feel special getting it cause the REQ System is just random.
> > What do you think of the REQ System?
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> The REQ system is okay to me. If it isn’t a part of future games, I think it’ll improve the game. If it isn’t removed, I hope at least some of the armor and other unlockables are locked behind achievements so that using them actually means something. In fact, I think that if it is kept, keeping all customization items out of the REQ pool will improve the system by so much.

Agreed and mentioned that in my Reply above where Sierra Cyken pretty much said the same, if they keep Customizable items out of the Req system and make them unlockable by certain Rank or achievement it would make Halo 5 feel more alive in my opinion, more fun. :] But as it is currently… it’s nothing special. You get a Mythic Armor piece, wear it. So what? It was luck, not skill. The Helioskrill armor is a good example of what we need in Halo 5.

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I agree with all of it Yami. This late into Halo 5 they’re unlikely to change it. But this should be something for the next halo.

Oh, and 343i should take it SLOOOOW. Nail everything in Halo 5 after all of it’s content is out and fix all of it’s problems, preferably on a NEW ENGINE. I think we sorta need it.
As for customisation, a blend of Reach, Halo 4 and DOOM’s would be brilliant. As in the armoury works the same as in Reach in terms of options (though add one for the bodysuit so people can choose an all black one or colour it independently of thier armour), only you get a bunch of options when you press on an armour peice it brings up a new menu with the armour skins, toggle decals option, sliders to control the amount of dirt, scratches and overall how worn it looks. As well as this it should allow us to toggle our emblem on that armour and let us colour it. Not the whole armour set like we have now, just the one selected.
Oh, and DEFINETLY playable Elites. But for balancing allow them in Warzone or custom games. Perhaps even give them different armour abilites, idk.
Use all of the weapon and armour skins that exist in Halo 4 and 5 and seriously cut down on the amount of them which are released after launch. It’s insane how there’s like 12 variants of just 1 armour set.

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> I agree with all of it Yami. This late into Halo 5 they’re unlikely to change it. But this should be something for the next halo.
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> Oh, and 343i should take it SLOOOOW. Nail everything in Halo 5 after all of it’s content is out and fix all of it’s problems, preferably on a NEW ENGINE. I think we sorta need it.
> As for customisation, a blend of Reach, Halo 4 and DOOM’s would be brilliant. As in the armoury works the same as in Reach in terms of options (though add one for the bodysuit so people can choose an all black one or colour it independently of thier armour), only you get a bunch of options when you press on an armour peice it brings up a new menu with the armour skins, toggle decals option, sliders to control the amount of dirt, scratches and overall how worn it looks. As well as this it should allow us to toggle our emblem on that armour and let us colour it. Not the whole armour set like we have now, just the one selected.
> Oh, and DEFINETLY playable Elites. But for balancing allow them in Warzone or custom games. Perhaps even give them different armour abilites, idk.
> Use all of the weapon and armour skins that exist in Halo 4 and 5 and seriously cut down on the amount of them which are released after launch. It’s insane how there’s like 12 variants of just 1 armour set.

True, the idea for Customization sounds brilliant and is something I’ve thought about a while ago aswell. Instead of making 12 variations of an Armor, just make a better Customization option where we can add (earnable) armor skins to it, can increase the roughness on the armor and maybe a Blood-Skin on it. That would be so much better, I have a friend who lost interest in Halo 5 simply because he got the same armor over and over just different variation. Also when I say earnable armor skins above i meant to earn Skins for Armor in general, not just one but for all. :]

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A spartan charge nerf with a slight radar buff, also an automotics nerf, I’m not sure if it’s latency or what but if I’m dying in the time it takes to fire 4 pistols shots that all hit the target from an AR or SMG at just above mid range then something is wrong.

I also wish customisation could have been broken down further than just full armour and helmet pieces.

Matchmaking preferences and a new carnage report that we’re getting this month is very welcome, why their isn’t a “sell all” option on the Reqs is beyond me.

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> A spartan charge nerf with a slight radar buff, also an automotics nerf, I’m not sure if it’s latency or what but if I’m dying in the time it takes to fire 4 pistols shots that all hit the target from an AR or SMG at just above mid range then something is wrong.
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> I also wish customisation could have been broken down further than just full armour and helmet pieces.
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> Matchmaking preferences and a new carnage report that we’re getting this month is very welcome, why their isn’t a “sell all” option on the Reqs is beyond me.

Haha Oh my god I actually told my friend the other day the same, a “Sell all” option would be so appreciated it is so tiresome to Sell each Req. You have no idea how many times I was selling stuff and Boom, it already found a game.
But you’re right the coming update holds some improvements to H5, I just wish the Medals would’ve been there from the start, or maybe use Halo 4 Medals as Placeholders while working on the new ones you know?

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I think that Halo 5 would be one of the greatest games of the year if it didn’t have all the launch problems.

If it would have shipped with all the content and features that we have now the game would have an amazing launch.

If 343. Manages to fix some or all of the problems with Halo 5 into Halo 6 then Halo 6 would be the perfect game.

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> I think that Halo 5 would be one of the greatest games of the year if it didn’t have all the launch problems.
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> If it would have shipped with all the content and features that we have now the game would have an amazing launch.
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> If 343. Manages to fix some or all of the problems with Halo 5 into Halo 6 then Halo 6 would be the perfect game.

Funnily enough I was saying this just yesterday, I thought the content drops (withholding some content from previous games) were done for 2 main reasons, 1. To maintain the population and keep interest high 2. They knew H5 was going to be climbing and uphill battle after the MCC debacle, so use it as a proving ground for all future halos, monthly updates to see just what the hell it is the fans want in their Halo games, that or they simply didn’t know themselves and wanted to find out. Maybe I’m giving them too much credit with number 2 but I believe with all their assets now firmly in place, Halo 6 should be a monster title at launch but for me there are 3 things it must have, all this content that was held back and missing at launch, a classic playlist that’s community driven and splitscreen.

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I totally agree with the t-rating. They should get rid of it and instead make the game more realistic. And elites please.

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> > I think that Halo 5 would be one of the greatest games of the year if it didn’t have all the launch problems.
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> > If it would have shipped with all the content and features that we have now the game would have an amazing launch.
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> > If 343. Manages to fix some or all of the problems with Halo 5 into Halo 6 then Halo 6 would be the perfect game.
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> Funnily enough I was saying this just yesterday, I thought the content drops (withholding some content from previous games) were done for 2 main reasons, 1. To maintain the population and keep interest high 2. They knew H5 was going to be climbing and uphill battle after the MCC debacle, so use it as a proving ground for all future halos, monthly updates to see just what the hell it is the fans want in their Halo games, that or they simply didn’t know themselves and wanted to find out. Maybe I’m giving them too much credit with number 2 but I believe with all their assets now firmly in place, Halo 6 should be a monster title at launch but for me there are 3 things it must have, all this content that was held back and missing at launch, a classic playlist that’s community driven and splitscreen.

I really don’t think that is the way to go. Releasing content over time to keep people interested in the Game is a good idea but not how 343i did it. They took away so many Gametypes at launch. I believe if H5 released now with all the Content it currently has, it would actually be a very good Halo Game. I hope 343i doesn’t do the same mistake again with Halo 6 and take out things we love.

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Changing the halo 5 armor customization way to halo 4’s armor customization way!