The title isn’t flame bait, I truly mean those words. I had planned on buying the Master Chief Controller, the Limited Collector’s Edition, and the Halo 5 console. Hearing about yet ANOTHER feature being cut… well, delayed. I don’t know.
Halo 5 will ship with just as many IF NOT LESS features than HALO 2. Halo freakin’ 2! A game that was shipped TWO generations of consoles ago.
I wish I was impressed with the copy/paste option given to us in the “new” Forge. Ignoring the fact that such features have existed in games since the 90’s.
I wish I could look at 343’s reasoning for cut features, delays, and questionable decisions and ignore the fact other developers manage just fine, with a smaller budget.
I wish I could look at the new color scheme feature in Forge and even care.
I could go on and on but I know this thread will get mocked and ridiculed simply for having a negative opinion about Halo 5. This forum doesn’t really allow it for some reason or another.
343… you get Halo. You have extended the lore in ways Bungie only dreamt of. Your attention to detail and fan services as far as fans and lore go is amazing. But it is clear to me that Halo 5 suffers from the “Graphics are everything” syndrome.
I WANT to be hyped for more than two features (campaign and Warzone). I want to tell people with negative opinions about Halo 5 off… but they are justified.
Sorry, guys. I don’t want to ruin the hype here but I can’t willfully ignore many facts here.
I am still excited. I guess I just want this to be the best Halo experience to date and the lack of, well, anything is prohibiting that.
Then again H5 base game is bigger then previous games. I think honestly most people see this on paper and are up in arms but when you have the game, you will feel silly. But Forge come a month later, not the biggest of deals
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> give us examples of games that fit was you’re saying that were as succesful as halo was/is.
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> other than that all I see here is crying from a guy that did not play the released game yet.
The game doesn’t have to be released for me to know there is a lack of features…?
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> Then again H5 base game is bigger then previous games. I think honestly most people see this on paper and are up in arms but when you have the game, you will feel silly. But Forge come a month later, not the biggest of deals
Speculation. I am sure it will be longer than Halo 4 (not hard to do) but will it be as long as Halo 1/2? We will see.
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> Speculation. I am sure it will be longer than Halo 4 (not hard to do) but will it be as long as Halo 1/2? We will see.
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> > > Then again H5 base game is bigger then previous games. I think honestly most people see this on paper and are up in arms but when you have the game, you will feel silly. But Forge come a month later, not the biggest of deals
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> > Speculation. I am sure it will be longer than Halo 4 (not hard to do) but will it be as long as Halo 1/2? We will see.
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> I think they said 14 missions, didn’t they?
I believe so. But of course mission length matters a great deal. 14 Tayari Plaza’s or 14 Two Betrayals? All about context.
Warzo … oops, there’s more than Halo 2. We’re done.
Okay, here’s the deal with cut features:
What happens when the games get too large? Do they cut old features or just never make any new ones? Or are you just expecting every Halo game to get exponentially larger and larger? Campaign, forge, theater, warzone, firefight, spartan ops, arena, invasion, etc.? Do they just stop making new modes and features out of fear of upsetting certain players? Do they cut them and develop new features out of fear of being redundant by releasing the same features in the games forever?What do you do?
Point is, something eventually has to go in order to make room for something new. Maybe not permanently. Maybe to return later or in the next game. I’m sure what they do, is they look at the populations of the more current games, see what’s not played as much, come up with a new idea, and replace it.
Also, some of the new features with the old features could create redundancies. BTB + Firefight + Warzone in the same game? Why split everyone up like that when they’re getting similar experiences?
What I’m saying is, don’t hold your breath for all of these features. It’s unreasonable to expect every aspect of every game to be included indefinitely if you also expect new experiences as well.
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> > give us examples of games that fit was you’re saying that were as succesful as halo was/is.
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> The game doesn’t have to be released for me to know there is a lack of features…?
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> Your first sentence didn’t even make sense.
nevermind that first sentence then.
and you call that lack of features? when most of them are going to be released after the game as DLC?
They’ve been working on the games for how long now?
so that pretty much means that all that time was focused on perfecting the game, and not rushing in all the contents you princess absolutly want on october 27.
so chill the F out, enjoy what they release with the game knowing they perfected it and kept the goodies for future DLC to make sure they perfect them too
Warzone is considered multiplayer. Theater is there, yes, but splitscreen isn’t. But isn’t it almost sad how we even have to compare the two? It’s even more sad it’s a close race.
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> and you call that lack of features? when most of them are going to be released after the game as DLC?
> They’ve been working on the games for how long now?
> so that pretty much means that all that time was focused on perfecting the game, and not rushing in all the contents you princess absolutly want on october 27.
> so chill the F out, enjoy what they release with the game knowing they perfected it and kept the goodies for future DLC to make sure they perfect them too
We don’t know what will be DLC. I for one do not put all my eggs in one basket when it comes to videogames and DLC. It always leads to disappointment.
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> > > > Then again H5 base game is bigger then previous games. I think honestly most people see this on paper and are up in arms but when you have the game, you will feel silly. But Forge come a month later, not the biggest of deals
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> I believe so. But of course mission length matters a great deal. 14 Tayari Plaza’s or 14 Two Betrayals? All about context.
That’s fair. But I suspect the campaign is going to be a pretty decent length.
I understand your point and why you’re feeling a little let down. Would it be better if forge were there on 27OCT? Absolutely. Is it awful that it’s pushed back a little over a month in order to polish and finalize? Eh, nah. It’s definitely not the end of the world. Gives ample time to play the campaign, play Arena, and try out Warzone. Then play some BTB before moving on to forge.
I guess it’s all about perspective though. I’ll fully own that I much prefer trying to look on the “glass half full” side rather than the half empty side. Mostly because I don’t have the energy to constantly try to worry or be anxious with worry over things. It’s easier on my sanity to hope for the best and then see what happens.
ETA - This isn’t a dig at you, Viper, or anyone else. Just in case it was taken that way.
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> Warzone is considered multiplayer. Theater is there, yes, but splitscreen isn’t. But isn’t it almost sad how we even have to compare the two? It’s even more sad it’s a close race.
I don’t understand why people are so mad about splitscreen. Ok you can’t play with your friend on the same screen. boohooo go buy another xbox one or stop crying about it. whats done is done
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> > > > > Then again H5 base game is bigger then previous games. I think honestly most people see this on paper and are up in arms but when you have the game, you will feel silly. But Forge come a month later, not the biggest of deals
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> > > > Speculation. I am sure it will be longer than Halo 4 (not hard to do) but will it be as long as Halo 1/2? We will see.
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> That’s fair. But I suspect the campaign is going to be a pretty decent length.
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> I understand your point and why you’re feeling a little let down. Would it be better if forge were there on 27OCT? Absolutely. Is it awful that it’s pushed back a little over a month in order to polish and finalize? Eh, nah. It’s definitely not the end of the world. Gives ample time to play the campaign, play Arena, and try out Warzone. Then play some BTB before moving on to forge.
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> I guess it’s all about perspective though. I’ll fully own that I much prefer trying to look on the “glass half full” side rather than the half empty side. Mostly because I don’t have the energy to constantly try to worry or be anxious with worry over things. It’s easier on my sanity to hope for the best and then see what happens.
True. Being an optimist really helps but I just don’t like ignoring facts in order to be that optimist.
I would rather Forge be shipped with the game. But I am sure they have their reasons. To me, Reach was the full experience. It shipped with everything. Sure, some of the gameplay decisions were questionable but at least features were there.
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> Warzone is considered multiplayer. Theater is there, yes, but splitscreen isn’t. But isn’t it almost sad how we even have to compare the two? It’s even more sad it’s a close race.
… don’t focus on my dumb joke, it’s the rest of the post that’s important. You want Invasion + Big Team Battle + Firefight + Spartan Ops + Heavies + Warzone all in the same game? Not you, specifically, but you can’t have every feature from every Halo and keep wanting new stuff as well. Things have to go eventually. I’m taking game modes, it’s forbidden to discuss how a display may or may not be divided into separate sections for use of more than one individual
BTB is being added later to give Warzone a chance. Forge is being added later to ensure that it works. And it could be a good thing especially after the release of other big titles like Fallout or Battlefront to have new content added to Halo 5 for free that brings players back in who may have gone astray. Yes, it should have been there at launch. But it’s a little over a month. Not a big deal. GTA Online was delayed and look at that.
Halo 5, launching with campaign, arena, and warzone I believe btb is only delayed by a week? . The only additional feature that is getting delayed is forge (which halo 2 didn’t have) and what they told us about forge ( they still have more to tell us) sounds like they may need extra time to implement the stuff in, fix and polish it. A month and some days delay is not that big of a deal to worry about. Me personally I will probably not going to be able to get halo 5 until November anyway so if you don’t want to have to deal with the delays wait to buy the game.
Also I don’t know why you feel like you need to prove people wrong. You shouldn’t care about what they think or say about something that interest you.
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> > I guess it’s all about perspective though. I’ll fully own that I much prefer trying to look on the “glass half full” side rather than the half empty side. Mostly because I don’t have the energy to constantly try to worry or be anxious with worry over things. It’s easier on my sanity to hope for the best and then see what happens.
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> I would rather Forge be shipped with the game. But I am sure they have their reasons. To me, Reach was the full experience. It shipped with everything. Sure, some of the gameplay decisions were questionable but at least features were there.
Don’t think I’m ignoring the facts because I’m not. But rather than dwell on them or get frustrated over X not being there at launch, I tend to look at it more as, “How does it benefit to have X launched late?”
In this case, I suspect there’s a lot of dev-side issues that they’re still finishing up and polishing. Plus they can use the time between launch until forge to monitor server status, loads, etc. This way they’re not throwing everything out there and watching things kind of fall to bits like we saw with MCC. We got a ton of content…but not necessarily content we could actually do anything with. So this way, we have to wait but after reading the forge article, I suspect the delayed gratification will be worth it. I’m not even a forger and that article had a ton of stuff that looked really, really neat and worth waiting for.
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> BTB is being added later to give Warzone a chance. Forge is being added later to ensure that it works. And it could be a good thing especially after the release of other big titles like Fallout or Battlefront to have new content added to Halo 5 for free that brings players back in who may have gone astray. Yes, it should have been there at launch. But it’s a little over a month. Not a big deal. GTA Online was delayed and look at that.
Heavies isn’t a feature, either. Neither is BTB. Those are playlists/gametypes. I want:
Campaign
Theater (with campaign editor like Reach and 3)
Forge
Warzone/Matchmaking
Warzone Firefight edition
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> I don’t understand why people are so mad about splitscreen. Ok you can’t play with your friend on the same screen. boohooo go buy another xbox one or stop crying about it. whats done is done
Do you not know how much an Xbox one costs? Having multiple games, Xbox live accounts controllers etc. those add up big time and people aren’t rich to begin with so your argument is Boohoo ur poor learn to get a better job and save up ur money? Are you kidding me?
