I want one day

One day, where everyone stops complaining about Halo 4, and we just play the game. Honestly, I’m sick of the same old forum posts saying how x amount of people hate y amount of changes. I seriously just want one day (preferably after I get my Gold on Friday)where everyone just either plays their favourite part of the game, or just don’t complain altogether. I understand that you think the game could be better in 50 Bajillion ways, but a constant stream of “you should do this and that” is driving me crazy. All we ever get on these forums are complaints, and frankly I’ve heard every single one over and over again.

Also, just as a side note, no complaining on this thread, or telling me it isn’t possible, or trolling.

EDIT: There should be more postive threads, or atleast threads that aren’t about every little thing wrong with H4.

Maybe because people are unhappy and want to voice their opinions?

> Maybe because people are unhappy and want to voice their opinions?

I understand that, but I don’t want to see that being the only thing being talked about.

> <mark>One day, where everyone stops complaining about Halo 4</mark>, and we just play the game. <mark>Honestly, I’m sick of the same old forum posts saying how x amount of people hate y amount of changes. I seriously just want one day (preferably after I get my Gold on Friday)where everyone just either plays their favourite part of the game, or just don’t complain altogether.</mark> I understand that you think the game could be better in 50 Bajillion ways, but a constant stream of “you should do this and that” is driving me crazy. <mark>All we ever get on these forums are complaints, and frankly I’ve heard every single one over and over again.</mark>

Then you will be waiting till your last day on this earth, every Halo has had complaints for the entirety of their lifespan, Halo 4 just managed to be so bad it is worse than in previous titles.

Again that wont happen.

You knwo what I want? I want ONE DAY when 343I actualyl listens to the community, and aknowlege several fo the issues that have been mentioned since day 1 but nothing has been done about them.

When that happens I guarantee a lot of the complainign will die out or the ammount of threads will greatly be reduced.

You must be new, FORUMS are for people to express their opinions, good or bad abotu the game, and it is the only way to give feedback to the company (albeit it seems to be falling on deaf ears) also Halo forusm have been ridden with complaints since Halo 2.

As much as I’d like it, it won’t happen, people have complained about every Halo game, we can state what needs to be fixed here, it wouldn’t be as bad if there was more constructive criticism

> > <mark>One day, where everyone stops complaining about Halo 4</mark>, and we just play the game. <mark>Honestly, I’m sick of the same old forum posts saying how x amount of people hate y amount of changes. I seriously just want one day (preferably after I get my Gold on Friday)where everyone just either plays their favourite part of the game, or just don’t complain altogether.</mark> I understand that you think the game could be better in 50 Bajillion ways, but a constant stream of “you should do this and that” is driving me crazy. <mark>All we ever get on these forums are complaints, and frankly I’ve heard every single one over and over again.</mark>
>
> Then you will be waiting till your last day on this earth, every Halo has had complaints for the entirety of their lifespan, Halo 4 just managed to be so bad it is worse than in previous titles.
>
> Again that wont happen.
>
> You knwo what I want? I want ONE DAY when 343I actualyl listens to the community, and aknowlege several fo the issues that have been mentioned since day 1 but nothing has been done about them.
>
> When that happens I guarantee a lot of the complainign will die out or the ammount of threads will greatly be reduced.
>
> You must be new, FORUMS are for people to express their opinions, good or bad abotu the game, and it is the only way to give feedback to the company (albeit it seems to be falling on deaf ears) also Halo forusm have been ridden with complaints since Halo 2.

I’ve been here since the launch of H4, and honestly, there should also be positive threads, and not just threads complaining about every single aspect of this game.

Also, if they didn’t listen we wouldn’t have:
Weapon Tuning
Boltshot nerf
AC nerf
Legendary Slayer (either)
Champions bundle
Red X
Forge Island
Interactive map (Verigo)
Multi team
Hive mind
Lockdown
Team Slayer
Big team slayer
and a bunch more gametypes (I don’t play enough)

> > > <mark>One day, where everyone stops complaining about Halo 4</mark>, and we just play the game. <mark>Honestly, I’m sick of the same old forum posts saying how x amount of people hate y amount of changes. I seriously just want one day (preferably after I get my Gold on Friday)where everyone just either plays their favourite part of the game, or just don’t complain altogether.</mark> I understand that you think the game could be better in 50 Bajillion ways, but a constant stream of “you should do this and that” is driving me crazy. <mark>All we ever get on these forums are complaints, and frankly I’ve heard every single one over and over again.</mark>
> >
> > Then you will be waiting till your last day on this earth, every Halo has had complaints for the entirety of their lifespan, Halo 4 just managed to be so bad it is worse than in previous titles.
> >
> > Again that wont happen.
> >
> > You knwo what I want? I want ONE DAY when 343I actualyl listens to the community, and aknowlege several fo the issues that have been mentioned since day 1 but nothing has been done about them.
> >
> > When that happens I guarantee a lot of the complainign will die out or the ammount of threads will greatly be reduced.
> >
> > You must be new, FORUMS are for people to express their opinions, good or bad abotu the game, and it is the only way to give feedback to the company (albeit it seems to be falling on deaf ears) also Halo forusm have been ridden with complaints since Halo 2.
>
> I’ve been here since the launch of H4, and honestly, there should also be positive threads, and not just threads complaining about every single aspect of this game.

There were some positive threads when this game came out but after the initial glow wore off people really started to see how broken and unbalanced it really was. Some of us recognized this immediately while others took a little more time to see the flaws. It is our job as a community to speak up and tell 343i what we like and don’t like, and I for one am happy about how vocal our community really is.

343i made Halo 4 for themselves, and it because of these controversial additions it struggles to hit 30k after 10 months into its life cycle, whereas Reach consistently had over 100k for over 2 years. That alone should speak volumes because even though Reach strayed away from the original formula it still feels a lot more like Halo than Halo 4 does.

> > > > <mark>One day, where everyone stops complaining about Halo 4</mark>, and we just play the game. <mark>Honestly, I’m sick of the same old forum posts saying how x amount of people hate y amount of changes. I seriously just want one day (preferably after I get my Gold on Friday)where everyone just either plays their favourite part of the game, or just don’t complain altogether.</mark> I understand that you think the game could be better in 50 Bajillion ways, but a constant stream of “you should do this and that” is driving me crazy. <mark>All we ever get on these forums are complaints, and frankly I’ve heard every single one over and over again.</mark>
> > >
> > > Then you will be waiting till your last day on this earth, every Halo has had complaints for the entirety of their lifespan, Halo 4 just managed to be so bad it is worse than in previous titles.
> > >
> > > Again that wont happen.
> > >
> > > You knwo what I want? I want ONE DAY when 343I actualyl listens to the community, and aknowlege several fo the issues that have been mentioned since day 1 but nothing has been done about them.
> > >
> > > When that happens I guarantee a lot of the complainign will die out or the ammount of threads will greatly be reduced.
> > >
> > > You must be new, FORUMS are for people to express their opinions, good or bad abotu the game, and it is the only way to give feedback to the company (albeit it seems to be falling on deaf ears) also Halo forusm have been ridden with complaints since Halo 2.
> >
> > I’ve been here since the launch of H4, and honestly, there should also be positive threads, and not just threads complaining about every single aspect of this game.
>
> There were some positive threads when this game came out but after the initial glow wore off people really started to see how broken and unbalanced it really was. Some of us recognized this immediately while others took a little more time to see the flaws. It is our job as a community to speak up and tell 343i what we like and don’t like, and I for one am happy about how vocal our community really is.
>
> 343i made Halo 4 for themselves, and it because of these controversial additions it struggles to hit 30k after 10 months into its life cycle, whereas Reach consistently had over 100k for over 2 years. That alone should speak volumes because even though Reach strayed away from the original formula it still feels a lot more like Halo than Halo 4 does.

I’m happy too, but the same threads over and over again complaning about the same thing doesn’t help anyone.

> > > > > <mark>One day, where everyone stops complaining about Halo 4</mark>, and we just play the game. <mark>Honestly, I’m sick of the same old forum posts saying how x amount of people hate y amount of changes. I seriously just want one day (preferably after I get my Gold on Friday)where everyone just either plays their favourite part of the game, or just don’t complain altogether.</mark> I understand that you think the game could be better in 50 Bajillion ways, but a constant stream of “you should do this and that” is driving me crazy. <mark>All we ever get on these forums are complaints, and frankly I’ve heard every single one over and over again.</mark>
> > > >
> > > > Then you will be waiting till your last day on this earth, every Halo has had complaints for the entirety of their lifespan, Halo 4 just managed to be so bad it is worse than in previous titles.
> > > >
> > > > Again that wont happen.
> > > >
> > > > You knwo what I want? I want ONE DAY when 343I actualyl listens to the community, and aknowlege several fo the issues that have been mentioned since day 1 but nothing has been done about them.
> > > >
> > > > When that happens I guarantee a lot of the complainign will die out or the ammount of threads will greatly be reduced.
> > > >
> > > > You must be new, FORUMS are for people to express their opinions, good or bad abotu the game, and it is the only way to give feedback to the company (albeit it seems to be falling on deaf ears) also Halo forusm have been ridden with complaints since Halo 2.
> > >
> > > I’ve been here since the launch of H4, and honestly, there should also be positive threads, and not just threads complaining about every single aspect of this game.
> >
> > There were some positive threads when this game came out but after the initial glow wore off people really started to see how broken and unbalanced it really was. Some of us recognized this immediately while others took a little more time to see the flaws. It is our job as a community to speak up and tell 343i what we like and don’t like, and I for one am happy about how vocal our community really is.
> >
> > 343i made Halo 4 for themselves, and it because of these controversial additions it struggles to hit 30k after 10 months into its life cycle, whereas Reach consistently had over 100k for over 2 years. That alone should speak volumes because even though Reach strayed away from the original formula it still feels a lot more like Halo than Halo 4 does.
>
> I’m happy too, but the same threads over and over again complaning about the same thing doesn’t help anyone.

I don’t know what to tell you, go to other parts of the forum that are less, “serious” I suppose. The Halo 4 general discussion is always going to be filled with complaints and debates.

Stay a day away from the forums, spend it on your friends, hobbies, work out, yada yada. Boom. Problem solved.

Seriously, if you let people’s complaints get that close to you, you are bound to have a very unpleasant time with online forums.
=/

I’ve said this before in a similar thread. I think Halo is such a good game because of how critical it’s fans are of it. I’m sure 343i don’t mind constructive criticism. The only thing I don’t like seeing a lot of is blatant trolling. But our mods are usually quick to pick up on that. Usually.

Halo 4 feels much better and halo like gameplaywise than reach.

But you are on the forums. It happens here now. And even if they make the game to certain people’s liking, thee are likely other people who will complain about it.

> I’ve been here since the launch of H4, and honestly, there should also be positive threads, and not just threads complaining about every single aspect of this game.
>
> Also, if they didn’t listen we wouldn’t have:
> Weapon Tuning
> Boltshot nerf
> AC nerf
> Legendary Slayer (either)
> Champions bundle
> Red X
> Forge Island
> Interactive map (Verigo)
> Multi team
> Hive mind
> Lockdown
> Team Slayer
> Big team slayer
> and a bunch more gametypes (I don’t play enough)

Right? those are plain playlist updates, you know what Bungie used to do weekly? except for a couple, now tell me where is:

Improved custom game options?
Theatre for campaign and Spartan Ops?
Local search option
Offline Spartan Ops
Arena styled Halo gameplay
Sprint removal
Descoping
Improved forge since H4’s forge is a downgrade from H Reach’s?
Removal of PP and Plasma Nades as loadout options
In game ranking (Not CSR)
Social and Ranked playlists

Because a lot of this things have been asked since day 1 but have not been addressed.

Oh but we got some new playlists , surely they are listening right?

> > I’ve been here since the launch of H4, and honestly, there should also be positive threads, and not just threads complaining about every single aspect of this game.
> >
> > Also, if they didn’t listen we wouldn’t have:
> > Weapon Tuning
> > Boltshot nerf
> > AC nerf
> > Legendary Slayer (either)
> > Champions bundle
> > Red X
> > Forge Island
> > Interactive map (Verigo)
> > Multi team
> > Hive mind
> > Lockdown
> > Team Slayer
> > Big team slayer
> > and a bunch more gametypes (I don’t play enough)
>
> Right? those are plain playlist updates, you know what Bungie used to do weekly? except for a couple, now tell me where is:
>
> Improved custom game options?
> Theatre for campaign and Spartan Ops?
> Local search option
> Offline Spartan Ops
> Arena styled Halo gameplay
> Sprint removal
> Descoping
> Improved forge since H4’s forge is a downgrade from H Reach’s?
> Removal of PP and Plasma Nades as loadout options
> In game ranking (Not CSR)
> Social and Ranked playlists
>
> Because a lot of this things have been asked since day 1 but have not been addressed.
>
> Oh but we got some new playlists , surely they are listening right?

Im sorry but sprint is staying in and youll just have to adapt to it. I know its cliche to say that but its true.

But a lot of those i do agree with but there is only so much a company who is trying their own thing will accomplish/ is able to do.

Its also their first game, cut them some slack, i know its not your ideal Halo buts its still pretty fun, so at least try to enjoy the game?

> As much as I’d like it, it won’t happen, people have complained about every Halo game, we can state what needs to be fixed here, <mark>it wouldn’t be as bad if there was more constructive criticism</mark>

Exactly

> > As much as I’d like it, it won’t happen, people have complained about every Halo game, we can state what needs to be fixed here, <mark>it wouldn’t be as bad if there was more constructive criticism</mark>
>
> Exactly

So hard to come by these days.
Think of H4 like a pizza. Each slice is different, yet somewhat the same.
But there is too much of this(sprint, for an example) too little of that(classic playing) among other things.

It would just be nice if the only criticisms was constructive ones, a lot of times, all I see are a bunch of non-constructive complaining that are just plain dumb half the time. :confused:

> Halo 4 feels much better and halo like gameplaywise than reach.
>
> But you are on the forums. It happens here now. And even if they make the game to certain people’s liking, thee are likely other people who will complain about it.

Right, because sprint, perks, killstreaks (Sorry, ordnance), killcams, custom loadouts, flinch, and instant respawns are totally Halo…

/sarcasm

> One day, where everyone stops complaining about Halo 4, and we just play the game.

People who dislike the game should just play it - does this not sound a little counter-intuitive to you?

> Honestly, I’m sick of the same old forum posts saying how x amount of people hate y amount of changes. I seriously just want one day (preferably after I get my Gold on Friday)where everyone just either plays their favourite part of the game, or just don’t complain altogether.

And what exactly would this achieve? World peace?

You must understand that the forums are a place for fans to voice their opinions. Those opinions are not always going to be positive, especially not when the current multiplayer is like it is now.

> I understand that you think the game could be better in 50 Bajillion ways, but a constant stream of “you should do this and that” is driving me crazy. All we ever get on these forums are complaints, and frankly I’ve heard every single one over and over again.

Well… It makes perfect sense that you have.

If something is wrong with the game, a lot of people are going to pick up on it and complain about it. It stands to reason.
But people shouldn’t avoid complaining about something, just because someone before them has already made that complaint.

If only one person ever complained about sprint, and then all the fans who dislike sprint decided not to voice their opinions on it because someone already did, then 343 would get the impression that barely anyone dislikes sprint.

> Also, just as a side note, no complaining on this thread, or telling me it isn’t possible, or trolling.

I wont tell you that it isn’t possible, and I wont troll you. What I will tell you is that negative feedback is not a negative thing in itself; it is actually very useful to a developer who wants the best for their game.

> EDIT: There should be more postive threads, or atleast threads that aren’t about every little thing wrong with H4.

More positive threads will come about as a result of more positive things happening to the games; how are we most likely to achieve that? Well, by making negative threads.
The very thing you are trying to avoid, is the very thing that is most likely to bring about the types of threads which you want to see.

Don’t get on the forums for a day.

I don’t mind complaining, and I would never want to silence anyone just because they don’t have anything “nice” to say.

However, I do mind rants and unreasonable arguments, which may or may not be what you’re referring to.