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I hate the 1-50 ranking on halo 3 it crap because of deranker to help booster get 50, booster want 50, ip booter, player from other country with crap lag, quitter so you can’t get a fair game so what happen is you get 1 vs 8 so player from other team spawn rape you, and most of all try hard player that too damn good at low rank but never rank up to high rank because they don’t want to play against other try hard because of k/d or win/lose bs.
The Halo 4 130 ranking was ok up untell the 1-50CSR crap came in. I don’t want get started on that ok.
Oh One more thing I hope Halo 5 will have Halo Reach Ranking system it work fine and i love it.
343 if you are reading this please for the love god fix it so i can play halo to have fun in muiltplayer.
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Since you just listed up the bad sides of Skill Ranking, I am going to do the same with progressive Ranking:
Nobody wants to be matched up with players out of their skill range. It’s bad for both ends of the skill ladder. A skill Ranking separates the players that are motivated to win of those who aren’t (they have social playlists)
I’m highest rank, great, what now? I’ve seen many players leaving Halo 4 after hitting SR-130 (myself included). The 50 was something worth playing for because you had to get better and that’s what kept players play Halo 3 for 3 years.
People quitting out of matches because they won’t get punished anyway. Because it’s so great to play handicap matches. But JiP made it possible, throwing players into already lost matches (at least until it got patched which took really long)
I want Halo Reach xp Ranking system, but want a halo 4 type system for player add in when quitter leave the game so new player can add in right away with no lagging the game and the game will reset to a fair game so it not 2 vs 8 but redo of 8 vs 8 and game start again with all player in. What you think? Is my idea crazy or could be the best halo muiltplayer?
OP if you don’t like halo don’t play it. If you have no skill, practice. Deranking? really? That’s your big issue? That’s relatively good problem to have. First world halo problem if you will.
‘Hey guys remember when we had a ranking system and people would derank and how much we whined about it and then they completely got rid of it? yeah… I wish those days were back’
Does no one understand that we can have both. Halo 3 style will affect skill based matching while the Halo 4 style can affect armor unlocks and other customization options, sort of like a reward for being a loyal player.
Captain Unami I love Halo 1,2,3, 4 and Reach campaign a lot but the muiltplayer need to be fix so we can all in joy have fun without the bulls*&^t broken system that need be fix before Halo 5 release. 343 need to think out side the 1-50 rank or 130SR rank box and go back what work with Halo Reach ranking systems.
Oh i just hope 343 make the muiltplayer side of Halo 5 that i can have can choose country or state you want to only play in so there is no 12,000 mile lag with player that have 3rd world wireless cell phone internet speed on their end.
> Does no one understand that we can have both. Halo 3 style will affect skill based matching while the Halo 4 style can affect armor unlocks and other customization options, sort of like a reward for being a loyal player.
> Oh i just hope 343 make the muiltplayer side of Halo 5 that i can have can choose country or state you want to only play in so there is no 12,000 mile lag with player that have 3rd world wireless cell phone internet speed on their end.
This filter option was in reach and I loved it.
With dedicated servers being introduced the need of a filter option isn’t that big anymore.
Though i wouldn’t harm.
If H5G can hold a high population, i see no reason why to not have a filter system.
> I want Halo Reach xp Ranking system, but want a halo 4 type system for player add in when quitter leave the game so new player can add in right away with no lagging the game and the game will reset to a fair game so it not 2 vs 8 but redo of 8 vs 8 and game start again with all player in. What you think? Is my idea crazy or could be the best halo muiltplayer?
I’d prefer them to just do 1-50. Progression systems aren’t ranking systems and they never will be.
> I hate the 1-50 ranking on halo 3 it crap because of deranker to help booster get 50, booster want 50, ip booter, player from other country with crap lag, quitter so you can’t get a fair game so what happen is you get 1 vs 8 so player from other team spawn rape you, and most of all try hard player that too damn good at low rank but never rank up to high rank because they don’t want to play against other try hard because of k/d or win/lose bs.
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> The Halo 4 130 ranking was ok up untell the 1-50CSR crap came in. I don’t want get started on that ok.
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> Oh One more thing I hope Halo 5 will have Halo Reach Ranking system it work fine and i love it.
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> 343 if you are reading this please for the love god fix it so i can play halo to have fun in muiltplayer.
Keep both. Have a Progression Rank (Halo 4’s system) that’s visible only in Social playlists, and a Competitive Rank (Halo 3’s system, minus de-ranking), which only shows up in Ranked playlists. Or, alternatively, still keep both but have an option to choose which one can be viewed by the general public.
Progression systems suck. Pointless, non-engaging waste of effort and space.
True-rank is the only way to go, and I’m happy 343 seems to understand this now.
Honestly OP you are pretty outnumbered in this, many people, not just the forum goers here want the old 1-50 back, I for one also want it back.
I’d prefer to do without a xp system and just find alternative ways to get armor, via earn currency to spend in armor or do objectives to get the armor (not ball tingling stuff like achievements, i.e. do cqb stuff to unlock cqb armors). But that’s just me over simplifying it because in reality there is no reason for the 2 systems can’t work in tandem. It’s just, in my opinion btw, the whole xp and levels are pointless/redundant to look at if there is a already dominant skill-based rank to your name in separate playlists.
> Does no one understand that we can have both. Halo 3 style will affect skill based matching while the Halo 4 style can affect armor unlocks and other customization options, sort of like a reward for being a loyal player.
Have a credit system similar to Reach for unlocks (doesn’t necessarily have to have ranks but I guess it wouldn’t hurt).
And have a 1-50 ranking system for finding matches.
Your claim that with 1-50 ranks there are too many derankers doesn’t hold much merit to me. In my experience, I’ve faced many more people who were way more skilled than me in halo Reach than I have in Halo 3.
In Halo 3, a lot of the games for me end up being pretty close. that’s not the case in Halo reach and 4.
From everything I’ve read and from what little I’ve experienced, I can say that a ‘progressive’ “ranking” system like Reach and H4 has would be a very bad idea.
Why? Well, you could lose every single game you enter, and still rank up just because you actually played. General? Noble? Inheritor? 130’s? Doesn’t mean anything. You could be facing a highly skilled player or a guy that can’t hit the broad side of a scorpion with a sniper when standing a meter away from it - you won’t know until you get into the match because either way, both skilled and highly un-skilled players will reach those ranks eventually.
The ranking based on how often you win, only the truly skilled players will ever reach the top and stay on the top.
So I’m looking forward to this new (old actually) ranking formula, so I can finally see once and for all if I’m really as bad at Halo as I think I am, or if my friends are right and I’m just “too hard on myself”
Jesus guy, please don’t let your voice be heard. Reach and H4 are considered to have the worst MM due to their lack of true ranking system. While H2 and H3 weren’t without faults, their ranking system was still rewarding and served a real purpose. It’s what separated the boys from the men!