I really liked having personal loadouts, the weapons in multiplayer seemed more fun. I also miss sending in ordinance from req points, that was a lot of fun both for gameplay and visually. i would go back, but I already said previously that they took out ordinance drops out of slayer so I have nothing to go back to.
Halo 5 doesn’t even feel like the same game. All the little personal things are gone that made Halo 4 feel like they spent time on it. You can go and say that it was unfair having unequal starts and that the maps were bad, I don’t care about any of that. Halo was about blowing people up and it looking cool, and nothing felt cooler than having your own AA, perks and weapons. Is was fast paced and lose, something easy to play and inviting to new players.
i understand a lot of you think it’s too much like call of duty, but I don’t see it. I’ve played call of duty, it’s fun but it gets boring because it’s the same game every time. Halo 4 was innovative to adapt some of the mechanics with its own twist and more believable system I.E. infinity drop pods.
Casual Halo feels closer to home than competitive equal starts MLG Halo, I’d go back to Halo reach but that hasn’t aged well.
I dont know to do.
EDIT: 24 hours later and I’m over here spilling my guts about this game and all I keep getting is “what age are you, when did you start playing Halo, you are mentally unstable, you are dragging down this community, go play BattleDuty MadernField” and so on. If the game is still “dead” as you call it the no amount of me saying I liked it better than 5 will change that, despite all this I’m still being treated poorly by a lot of the people here just for defending what I liked even though they already took it out of both the 360 and MCC versions. I can’t go back or I would have, I’m just saying what I liked, I’m not trying to take away what you like now.
I have to agree with you on some points, i feel like the req weapons should be implemented into Arena, I get so tired of using the exact same carbon-copy guns in arena, while warzone has over 30 variations of each weapon.
I have to agree with you on some points, i feel like the req weapons should be implemented into Arena, I get so tired of using the exact same carbon-copy guns in arena, while warzone has over 30 variations of each weapon.
I think everybody has their personal favorite Halo but to me Halo 5 is a step in the right direction but it still has many flaws which should be fixed and a micro transactions system that I dont like and not many playlists but that’s just me.
I like some of the things Halo 5 did, like infinite sprint, thrusters, ground pound, and all the warzone weapons, but I miss those things in Halo 4. It would be different if they had t removed them from Halo 4 right before the MCC came out.
At least halo 4 had:
Split screen
Forge on launch
BTB on launch
*Some of the best BTB maps in halo
A good campaign
Campaign scoring
The ability to play custom games and forge without internet connection A lot of playlists
An easy to use and enjoyable UI
Meaningful pregame lobby info
Meaningful post game info e.g medals
Detailed customization
*Slightly meaningful customization too
Some of the best maps in halo, not recycled lazy maps like halo 5
No micro transactions
Only things halo 5 beat halo 4 in are:
Gameplay
And sound track- halo 5 has beautiful music/voice acting ect
In conclusion halo 5 was released half baked, missing features and had stupid changes
Halo 4 was an incredibly complete well rounded and enjoyable game
Halo 5 has better gameplay, but its not all about gameplay.
Halo 4 is a better game than halo 5
Gameplay wise, Halo 4 is easily the worst. However, that doesn’t mean Halo 4 did some things objectively better than Halo 5 is presently doing. The list in the comment above is a great place to start.
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> At least halo 4 had:
> Split screen
> Forge on launch
> BTB on launch
> *Some of the best BTB maps in halo
> A good campaign
> Campaign scoring
> The ability to play custom games and forge without internet connection
> A lot of playlists
> An easy to use and enjoyable UI
> Meaningful pregame lobby info
> Meaningful post game info e.g medals
> Detailed customization
> *Slightly meaningful customization too
> Some of the best maps in halo, not recycled lazy maps like halo 5
> No micro transactions
>
> Only things halo 5 beat halo 4 in are:
> Gameplay
> And sound track- halo 5 has beautiful music/voice acting ect
>
> In conclusion halo 5 was released half baked, missing features and had stupid changes
> Halo 4 was an incredibly complete well rounded and enjoyable game
>
> Halo 5 has better gameplay, but its not all about gameplay.
> Halo 4 is a better game than halo 5
It’s not just that H5 has better gameplay. It’s that H4’s gameplay was HORRENDOUS.
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> halo 4 was god awful
Everyone has their own opinion, my opinion is halo 5 is god awful and that halo 4 was and still is better.
Loadouts were not unfair because you could exactly choose what you wanted if you decided to take something bad and give yourself an disadvantage its really your own fault and not the systems/game.
Ordinance? Hey atleast we could get our ordinances and actually take the weapons… much unlike now with the reqs where the req station lags 24/7 and the req station sometimes not even works or the req points not loading after a game, then we also have the awful unlock system which just blows since all unlocks are hidden behind this Req RNG wall of doom. (you cant play for the unlocks specifically you need to play for a pack that has a chance to contain something) You are literally playing for chances.
The maps in halo 4 were 10x better and thats just a fact i mean look at recurve from halo 5. Recurve… hahahhah thats the biggest joke i have ever heard + the map lighting is terrible on all halo 5 maps.
Halo 4 Hey atleast we had proper playlists back then, also we did not have half a halo game cut on release with halo 4 and later given out as SUPER GREAT FREE CONTENT OMG.
Big team infinity slayer or what it was called was -Yoinking!- amazing and 100x more fun than sweatzone where the team with the 12 man premade wins 100% of the time.
We had Splitscreen( i know this is old but hey its part of a halo game right?)
We could play the multiplayer in halo 4 without disconnecting all the time just to get a ban later on for “quitting”
We also had proper vehicle physics in halo 4 unlike in halo 5 where your ghost goes flying after splattering 1 guy or you getting splattered from a tank that you barely touched.
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> Everyone has their own opinion, my opinion is halo 5 is god awful and that halo 4 was and still is better.
> Loadouts were not unfair because you could exactly choose what you wanted if you decided to take something bad and give yourself an disadvantage its really your own fault and not the systems/game.
>
> Ordinance? Hey atleast we could get our ordinances and actually take the weapons… much unlike now with the reqs where the req station lags 24/7 and the req station sometimes not even works or the req points not loading after a game, then we also have the awful unlock system which just blows since all unlocks are hidden behind this Req RNG wall of doom. (you cant play for the unlocks specifically you need to play for a pack that has a chance to contain something) You are literally playing for chances.
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> The maps in halo 4 were 10x better and thats just a fact i mean look at recurve from halo 5. Recurve… hahahhah thats the biggest joke i have ever heard + the map lighting is terrible on all halo 5 maps.
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> Halo 4 Hey atleast we had proper playlists back then, also we did not have half a halo game cut on release with halo 4 and later given out as SUPER GREAT FREE CONTENT OMG.
>
> Big team infinity slayer or what it was called was -Yoinking!- amazing and 100x more fun than sweatzone where the team with the 12 man premade wins 100% of the time.
>
> We had Splitscreen( i know this is old but hey its part of a halo game right?)
> We could play the multiplayer in halo 4 without disconnecting all the time just to get a ban later on for “quitting”
> We also had proper vehicle physics in halo 4 unlike in halo 5 where your ghost goes flying after splattering 1 guy or you getting splattered from a tank that you barely touched.
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> Pretty much sums up my opinion.
Halo 4 will forever be the worst Halo game. Stop wasting your words nothing you say will change this.
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> At least halo 4 had:
> Split screen
> Forge on launch
> BTB on launch
> *Some of the best BTB maps in halo
> A good campaign
> Campaign scoring
> The ability to play custom games and forge without internet connection
> A lot of playlists
> An easy to use and enjoyable UI
> Meaningful pregame lobby info
> Meaningful post game info e.g medals
> Detailed customization
> *Slightly meaningful customization too
> Some of the best maps in halo, not recycled lazy maps like halo 5
> No micro transactions
>
> Only things halo 5 beat halo 4 in are:
> Gameplay
> And sound track- halo 5 has beautiful music/voice acting ect
>
> In conclusion halo 5 was released half baked, missing features and had stupid changes
> Halo 4 was an incredibly complete well rounded and enjoyable game
>
> Halo 5 has better gameplay, but its not all about gameplay.
> Halo 4 is a better game than halo 5
A more detailed version of my post pretty much, 100% agreeing on this
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> > > halo 4 was god awful
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> > Everyone has their own opinion, my opinion is halo 5 is god awful and that halo 4 was and still is better.
> > Loadouts were not unfair because you could exactly choose what you wanted if you decided to take something bad and give yourself an disadvantage its really your own fault and not the systems/game.
> >
> > Ordinance? Hey atleast we could get our ordinances and actually take the weapons… much unlike now with the reqs where the req station lags 24/7 and the req station sometimes not even works or the req points not loading after a game, then we also have the awful unlock system which just blows since all unlocks are hidden behind this Req RNG wall of doom. (you cant play for the unlocks specifically you need to play for a pack that has a chance to contain something) You are literally playing for chances.
> >
> > The maps in halo 4 were 10x better and thats just a fact i mean look at recurve from halo 5. Recurve… hahahhah thats the biggest joke i have ever heard + the map lighting is terrible on all halo 5 maps.
> >
> > Halo 4 Hey atleast we had proper playlists back then, also we did not have half a halo game cut on release with halo 4 and later given out as SUPER GREAT FREE CONTENT OMG.
> >
> > Big team infinity slayer or what it was called was -Yoinking!- amazing and 100x more fun than sweatzone where the team with the 12 man premade wins 100% of the time.
> >
> > We had Splitscreen( i know this is old but hey its part of a halo game right?)
> > We could play the multiplayer in halo 4 without disconnecting all the time just to get a ban later on for “quitting”
> > We also had proper vehicle physics in halo 4 unlike in halo 5 where your ghost goes flying after splattering 1 guy or you getting splattered from a tank that you barely touched.
> >
> > Pretty much sums up my opinion.
>
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> Halo 4 will forever be the worst Halo game. Stop wasting your words nothing you say will change this.
Well that might be your opinion but you dont speak for every halo player do you? it might be the worst halo of all time for you but for me it was 10x better than halo 5.
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> > > > halo 4 was god awful
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> > >
> > > Everyone has their own opinion, my opinion is halo 5 is god awful and that halo 4 was and still is better.
> > > Loadouts were not unfair because you could exactly choose what you wanted if you decided to take something bad and give yourself an disadvantage its really your own fault and not the systems/game.
> > > Ordinance? Hey atleast we could get our ordinances and actually take the weapons… much unlike now with the reqs where the req station lags 24/7 and the req station sometimes not even works or the req points not loading after a game, then we also have the awful unlock system which just blows since all unlocks are hidden behind this Req RNG wall of doom. (you cant play for the unlocks specifically you need to play for a pack that has a chance to contain something) You are literally playing for chances.
> > > The maps in halo 4 were 10x better and thats just a fact i mean look at recurve from halo 5. Recurve… hahahhah thats the biggest joke i have ever heard + the map lighting is terrible on all halo 5 maps.
> > > Halo 4 Hey atleast we had proper playlists back then, also we did not have half a halo game cut on release with halo 4 and later given out as SUPER GREAT FREE CONTENT OMG.
> > > Big team infinity slayer or what it was called was -Yoinking!- amazing and 100x more fun than sweatzone where the team with the 12 man premade wins 100% of the time.
> > > We had Splitscreen( i know this is old but hey its part of a halo game right?)
> > > We could play the multiplayer in halo 4 without disconnecting all the time just to get a ban later on for “quitting”
> > > We also had proper vehicle physics in halo 4 unlike in halo 5 where your ghost goes flying after splattering 1 guy or you getting splattered from a tank that you barely touched.
> > > Pretty much sums up my opinion.
> >
> >
> > Halo 4 will forever be the worst Halo game. Stop wasting your words nothing you say will change this.
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> Well that might be your opinion but you dont speak for every halo player do you? it might be the worst halo of all time for you but for me it was 10x better than halo 5.
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> > > > >
> > > > > halo 4 was god awful
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Everyone has their own opinion, my opinion is halo 5 is god awful and that halo 4 was and still is better.
> > > > Loadouts were not unfair because you could exactly choose what you wanted if you decided to take something bad and give yourself an disadvantage its really your own fault and not the systems/game.
> > > >
> > > > Ordinance? Hey atleast we could get our ordinances and actually take the weapons… much unlike now with the reqs where the req station lags 24/7 and the req station sometimes not even works or the req points not loading after a game, then we also have the awful unlock system which just blows since all unlocks are hidden behind this Req RNG wall of doom. (you cant play for the unlocks specifically you need to play for a pack that has a chance to contain something) You are literally playing for chances.
> > > >
> > > > The maps in halo 4 were 10x better and thats just a fact i mean look at recurve from halo 5. Recurve… hahahhah thats the biggest joke i have ever heard + the map lighting is terrible on all halo 5 maps.
> > > >
> > > > Halo 4 Hey atleast we had proper playlists back then, also we did not have half a halo game cut on release with halo 4 and later given out as SUPER GREAT FREE CONTENT OMG.
> > > >
> > > > Big team infinity slayer or what it was called was -Yoinking!- amazing and 100x more fun than sweatzone where the team with the 12 man premade wins 100% of the time.
> > > >
> > > > We had Splitscreen( i know this is old but hey its part of a halo game right?)
> > > > We could play the multiplayer in halo 4 without disconnecting all the time just to get a ban later on for “quitting”
> > > > We also had proper vehicle physics in halo 4 unlike in halo 5 where your ghost goes flying after splattering 1 guy or you getting splattered from a tank that you barely touched.
> > > >
> > > > Pretty much sums up my opinion.
> > >
> > >
> > > Halo 4 will forever be the worst Halo game. Stop wasting your words nothing you say will change this.
> >
> >
> > Well that might be your opinion but you dont speak for every halo player do you? it might be the worst halo of all time for you but for me it was 10x better than halo 5.
>
>
> No, I do speak for everyone. H4 was terrible.
Lol you speak for yourself and you most certainly dont speak for me so yeah. Deal with it that other people might not always think as you do and share the same opinion.
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> > > > > > lol
> > > > > > halo 4 was god awful
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Everyone has their own opinion, my opinion is halo 5 is god awful and that halo 4 was and still is better.
> > > > > Loadouts were not unfair because you could exactly choose what you wanted if you decided to take something bad and give yourself an disadvantage its really your own fault and not the systems/game.
> > > > > Ordinance? Hey atleast we could get our ordinances and actually take the weapons… much unlike now with the reqs where the req station lags 24/7 and the req station sometimes not even works or the req points not loading after a game, then we also have the awful unlock system which just blows since all unlocks are hidden behind this Req RNG wall of doom. (you cant play for the unlocks specifically you need to play for a pack that has a chance to contain something) You are literally playing for chances.
> > > > > The maps in halo 4 were 10x better and thats just a fact i mean look at recurve from halo 5. Recurve… hahahhah thats the biggest joke i have ever heard + the map lighting is terrible on all halo 5 maps.
> > > > > Halo 4 Hey atleast we had proper playlists back then, also we did not have half a halo game cut on release with halo 4 and later given out as SUPER GREAT FREE CONTENT OMG.
> > > > > Big team infinity slayer or what it was called was -Yoinking!- amazing and 100x more fun than sweatzone where the team with the 12 man premade wins 100% of the time.
> > > > > We had Splitscreen( i know this is old but hey its part of a halo game right?)
> > > > > We could play the multiplayer in halo 4 without disconnecting all the time just to get a ban later on for “quitting”
> > > > > We also had proper vehicle physics in halo 4 unlike in halo 5 where your ghost goes flying after splattering 1 guy or you getting splattered from a tank that you barely touched.
> > > > > Pretty much sums up my opinion.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Halo 4 will forever be the worst Halo game. Stop wasting your words nothing you say will change this.
> > >
> > >
> > > Well that might be your opinion but you dont speak for every halo player do you? it might be the worst halo of all time for you but for me it was 10x better than halo 5.
> >
> >
> > No, I do speak for everyone. H4 was terrible.
>
>
> Lol you speak for yourself and you most certainly dont speak for me so yeah. Deal with it that other people might not always think as you do and share the same opinion.
> Halo was about blowing people up and it looking cool, and nothing felt cooler than having your own AA, perks and weapons. Is was fast paced and lose, something easy to play and inviting to new players.
Part of what set Halo apart was it was actually difficult to get into compared to other games at the time. Fast paced? Then why is everyone constantly moaning about how “slow” Halo 3 is?
I think Halo Reach and Halo 4 have left you with a completely skewed view of what Halo actually is.
> No, I do speak for everyone. H4 was terrible.
Halo 4 was terrible but still had some redeeming qualities that aren’t present in Halo 5.
> Actually I do speak for you.
If you honestly believe that then you’re beyond reasoning with, and have jumped into the world of fanaticism.
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> > > > > > > halo 4 was god awful
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Everyone has their own opinion, my opinion is halo 5 is god awful and that halo 4 was and still is better.
> > > > > > Loadouts were not unfair because you could exactly choose what you wanted if you decided to take something bad and give yourself an disadvantage its really your own fault and not the systems/game.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ordinance? Hey atleast we could get our ordinances and actually take the weapons… much unlike now with the reqs where the req station lags 24/7 and the req station sometimes not even works or the req points not loading after a game, then we also have the awful unlock system which just blows since all unlocks are hidden behind this Req RNG wall of doom. (you cant play for the unlocks specifically you need to play for a pack that has a chance to contain something) You are literally playing for chances.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The maps in halo 4 were 10x better and thats just a fact i mean look at recurve from halo 5. Recurve… hahahhah thats the biggest joke i have ever heard + the map lighting is terrible on all halo 5 maps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Halo 4 Hey atleast we had proper playlists back then, also we did not have half a halo game cut on release with halo 4 and later given out as SUPER GREAT FREE CONTENT OMG.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Big team infinity slayer or what it was called was -Yoinking!- amazing and 100x more fun than sweatzone where the team with the 12 man premade wins 100% of the time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We had Splitscreen( i know this is old but hey its part of a halo game right?)
> > > > > > We could play the multiplayer in halo 4 without disconnecting all the time just to get a ban later on for “quitting”
> > > > > > We also had proper vehicle physics in halo 4 unlike in halo 5 where your ghost goes flying after splattering 1 guy or you getting splattered from a tank that you barely touched.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pretty much sums up my opinion.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Halo 4 will forever be the worst Halo game. Stop wasting your words nothing you say will change this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well that might be your opinion but you dont speak for every halo player do you? it might be the worst halo of all time for you but for me it was 10x better than halo 5.
> > >
> > >
> > > No, I do speak for everyone. H4 was terrible.
> >
> >
> > Lol you speak for yourself and you most certainly dont speak for me so yeah. Deal with it that other people might not always think as you do and share the same opinion.
>
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> Actually I do speak for you.
You do? HOLD ON,HOLD ON! let me write that down in my book of super important notes.