I think 343 has done a great "compromise".

A lot of people here complain about the Boltshot being overpowered. The other side believes it actually isn’t, but that the quick kill is what makes it so unique. I agree with what 343 is doing with the Boltshot because they are catering to those players who want the range to be short, while catering to the supporters of the Boltshot who want to keep the quick shot kill. Because honestly, we don’t want the Boltshot to be another weapon with a plasma pistol charge do we? Again, I do agree it’s annoying getting killed by Boltshot users who camp in the corners, but those players never dominate the match with the weapon.

Now for the DMR, nothing needs to be changed, except maybe not have it has a starting weapon. The first three Halos always had automatic weapons as a default with a Pistol. Precision weapons besides the DMR should be available. I think this would make Matchmaking more balanced. I am only saying this because although the DMR is not my personal starting weapon, I don’t agree with nerfing the DMR. Players should be able to pick it up throughout the maps. It would satisfy both of the population who want the DMR to be nerfed for balance issues and those who don’t want the DMR to be nerfed.

I think a bunch of the people that complain about the boltshot are the people that stink and don’t know how to counter it.
Now before I get flamed lemme note that most complaints about the boltshot are quite valid, and honestly, I would be fine with the thing taken entirely out of matchmaking.
Nothing worse though than a guy complaining about something just because he stinks lol…

> I think a bunch of the people that complain about the boltshot are the people that stink and don’t know how to counter it.
> Now before I get flamed lemme note that most complaints about the boltshot are quite valid, and honestly, I would be fine with the thing taken entirely out of matchmaking.
> Nothing worse though than a guy complaining about something just because he stinks lol…

I highly doubt it has to do with people… “Stinking” the fact that you have a weapon that is a 1 Shot Kill on SPAWN is a bad Idea, add to that fact that It has (as of now at least) a larger range for 1SK than a shotgun or a scattershot and it IS a problem.

Add to that this users usually use cammo or PV so they know when you are coming around the corners and it doesn’t help much either.

Now this range reduction is a good step but I would say they should make it a 2 shot kill (fully charged) with a slower charge rate or make it use all of its ammo when you use the charged shot.

Boltshot never bothered me. I got killed with it a few times when someone runs up and fires at medium-range (hence the range nerf). Personally, it should also take a whole clip to do a charged shot too.

DMR is just unfair. Placing it on the map is ignoring the problem. It needs either its magnetism nerfed or its power. No way around it.

Now what did I just say wolf?

I said most complaints against the boltshot are valid. I agree with most of them.

Trust me, a boltshot should not be a spawn weapon…

It shouldn’t have the range it does…

And it probably shouldn’t even have so much ammo…

All I’m saying is that there are ways to outsmart or beat an overpowered weapon.

> Again, I do agree it’s annoying getting killed by Boltshot users who camp in the corners, but those players never dominate the match with the weapon.

I played a game a few days ago where a person had 18 kills. 15 of which were boltshot.

A secondary weapon should NEVER be a Tool of Destruction. EVER.

You guys honestly think you guys are going to land shots cross mapping using the DMR without the aim assist? Pixels on you T.V, that are shorter than 1 milimeter? No one is that good with the DMR.

You realize that the hitboxes are bigger than 1 pixel right?

> You realize that the hitboxes are bigger than 1 pixel right?

Let alone a moving/jumping target acroos the map?

> > You realize that the hitboxes are bigger than 1 pixel right?
>
> Let alone a moving/jumping target acroos the map?

What does this even mean…

> You guys honestly think you guys are going to land shots cross mapping using the DMR without the aim assist? Pixels on you T.V, that are shorter than 1 milimeter? No one is that good with the DMR.

In Reach, I killed people by cross mapping with the DMR in Hemorrhage and it had more bloom and less magnetism…

Has anyone found that easter egg on midnight yet.

> Has anyone found that easter egg on midnight yet.

No and don’t post in threads if what you are posting is not relevant

The Bolt shot is a weak gun to have in your load out. If you miss that one shot charge you’re dead. I’d take the magnum and plasma pistol over it any day. Or you could use the firepower package and have another primary weapon.

So, if people want to put themselves in a disadvantage, by all means please use the bolt shot. I hardly get killed by it compared the other weapons in the game.

If you don’t agree that the DMR needs to be nerfed then I suggest you look at the stats.

Currently, there is no reason NOT to use the DMR because it’s consistent at ALL ranges, useful at ALL ranges because the weapon has no bloom, it’s accurate and because it’s accurate (with its insane bullet magnetism)

The DMR is used because it takes no skill to use, not because it’s useful for BTB.

It needs a rate of fire and bullet magnetism reduction in order to make it live up to the name “DESIGNATED MARKSMEN Rifle”

Here’s the problem with the boltshot. It’s a weapon you can spawn with that can kill every close range power weapon, and can even kill better than some. As long as you know how to use it gravity hammer/sword are near useless and you can either trade or pick up the kill over shotguns rather easily.