I guess this would happen seeing as Spartan II’s and Spartan IV’s are in the game. For new players and the like, I’m guessing they’ll notice the difference 2 and 4. I think it would kinda cool, seeing ALL the Spartans together to fight for humanity’s survival. But that’s just me.
Thoughts?
According to the end of Glasslands the Spartan IIIs were going to be given the choice to join the Spartan IV project. To me this sounds like the S-IVs are stronger and so the S-IIIs could be upgraded if they volunteer. If they don’t I would assume they most likely retire or something.
> According to the end of Glasslands the Spartan IIIs were going to be given the choice to join the Spartan IV project. To me this sounds like the S-IVs are stronger and so the S-IIIs could be upgraded if they volunteer. If they don’t I would assume they most likely retire or something.
The Spartan IV project only takes adults like the Orion Project, it was mentioned that they had also chosen skilled ODSTs and Marines. The Spartan III’s would be maybe stronger then the standard Spartan IV’s due to their experience as well as the bio augmentations done to them, this would also go for Spartan II’s.
It would be really cool is somehow George survived , or even emile
> The Spartan IV project only takes adults like the Orion Project, it was mentioned that they had also chosen skilled ODSTs and Marines. The Spartan III’s would be maybe stronger then the standard Spartan IV’s due to their experience as well as the bio augmentations done to them, this would also go for Spartan II’s.
There still maybe augmentation process the Spartan IV’s go through, just doesn’t need to be done on children in order to make it work. But yes, it seems that all the remaining Spartans are going to be in the Spartan IV program save for the Chief but that’s just because he is still in deep space.
It would make sense to bring Jun back into halo 4s story, although I never really warmed to his character I don’t want 343 to be integrating all these new characters into the trilogy and without some from the previous book series (like ghosts of onyx)
> It would make sense to bring Jun back into halo 4s story, although I never really warmed to his character I don’t want 343 to be integrating all these new characters into the trilogy and without some from the previous book series (like ghosts of onyx)
I see what you mean, but he was more interesting then Chief was in CE. One game isn’t really enough to judge a Spartan, as they are brainwashed to an extent. Their personality are mostly hidden behind the helmet. Jorge excluded, the gentle giant, him… 
Jun was my favorite member of NOBLE team. He reminded me of… me. Except I’m not an emotional husk like most Spartans.
> > According to the end of Glasslands the Spartan IIIs were going to be given the choice to join the Spartan IV project. To me this sounds like the S-IVs are stronger and so the S-IIIs could be upgraded if they volunteer. If they don’t I would assume they most likely retire or something.
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> The Spartan IV project only takes adults like the Orion Project, it was mentioned that they had also chosen skilled ODSTs and Marines. The Spartan III’s would be maybe stronger then the standard Spartan IV’s due to their experience as well as the bio augmentations done to them, this would also go for Spartan II’s.
But the Spartan IIIs are already conditioned Soldiers who have seen combat. Admiral Parangosky says on page 435…
“That depends on what they want to do. We’ll probably offer them the opportunity of pulling together the remaining Spartan-Threes and integrating them into the Spartan-Four Program.”
So if any of them chose to do so then they are indeed Spartan-IVs now. It’s also possible the IIs and IIIs are training the IVs.
I wouldn’t like it if the Spartans would become Spartan IV’s. Because, as far as I can tell, the Spartan Iv’s are just slightly enhanced humans. ODST with gene therapy and the other minor augmentations a Spartan has. The III’s are actually pretty impressive soldiers, especially with MJOLNIR. The Spartan II’s are almost revered as Gods, seeing as how only 75-ish of them turned the tide of war. They all need to stay different. Like how there’s different Covenant classes or races, there should be different classes of Spartans.
Well, I think so…
> I wouldn’t like it if the Spartans would become Spartan IV’s. Because, as far as I can tell, the Spartan Iv’s are just slightly enhanced humans. ODST with gene therapy and the other minor augmentations a Spartan has. The III’s are actually pretty impressive soldiers, especially with MJOLNIR. The Spartan II’s are almost revered as Gods, seeing as how only 75-ish of them turned the tide of war. They all need to stay different. Like how there’s different Covenant classes or races, there should be different classes of Spartans.
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> Well, I think so…
I don’t think the IIs will be upgraded into IVs. Since there are only a handful of IIs left that the UNSC is aware of, they could now become an even more Elite unit fitted with MJOLNIR Mark VII and the like. The Spartan IVs will be more like the IIIs in that they get less advanced stuff, but they’re still better than regular ODSTs.
I’d say that only the S1.O’s and S1.1’s can be upgraded.
SII’s are the peak of genetic potential perfection for a warrior.
SIII’s are compatible genetic candidates.
SIV’s are converted humans that can now include ONI sleeper/covert agents. They can be anybody.
SII’s and SIII’s becoming SIV’s would simply mean they’re amalgamated into the program, using the Mk.VII suits and Infinity equipment.
Not becoming an SIV could mean staying behind in technology, OR even discharge due to suspicion of potential risk of resisting new policies.
> I’d say that only the S1.O’s and S1.1’s can be upgraded.
> SII’s are the peak of genetic potential perfection for a warrior.
> SIII’s are compatible genetic candidates.
> SIV’s are converted humans that can now include ONI sleeper/covert agents. They can be anybody.
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> SII’s and SIII’s becoming SIV’s would simply mean they’re amalgamated into the program, using the Mk.VII suits and Infinity equipment.
> Not becoming an SIV could mean staying behind in technology, OR even discharge due to suspicion of potential risk of resisting new policies.
i suppose, but I think the three different projects should stay Independent of each other. Mostly so you can see the Chief and, say, Jun in all their glory. They wouldn’t be as incredible if they were one out of thousands…
> > I’d say that only the S1.O’s and S1.1’s can be upgraded.
> > SII’s are the peak of genetic potential perfection for a warrior.
> > SIII’s are compatible genetic candidates.
> > SIV’s are converted humans that can now include ONI sleeper/covert agents. They can be anybody.
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> > SII’s and SIII’s becoming SIV’s would simply mean they’re amalgamated into the program, using the Mk.VII suits and Infinity equipment.
> > Not becoming an SIV could mean staying behind in technology, OR even discharge due to suspicion of potential risk of resisting new policies.
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> i suppose, but I think the three different projects should stay Independent of each other. Mostly so you can see the Chief and, say, Jun in all their glory. They wouldn’t be as incredible if they were one out of thousands…
The III’s were one out of thousands, whereas there were only around 60/70 (correct if wrong) II’s. Despite that, I understand where you are coming from in that MC might feel less epic when there are loads of people like him. But, there still aren’t
IV’s have nowhere near the training the II’s had, nor the experience (regardless of prior military experience, the Spartans always went on the most dangerous missions.) And even if the II’s and III’s all go under the new banner of the ‘Spartan IV program’, they will still be II’s and III’s. II’s are still the top of the ladder, and III’s are still better than average.
> It would be really cool is somehow George survived , or even emile
Your kidding me right? Emile is absolutely dead. You saw him get stabbed by an energy sword in that cutscene. Plus even if he did survive, he would have just got glassed like the rest of Reach. As for *Jorge, I believe Bungie/343 confirmed he was dead. The only surviving member of Noble could be Jun, but even that I don’t know.
> > I’d say that only the S1.O’s and S1.1’s can be upgraded.
> > SII’s are the peak of genetic potential perfection for a warrior.
> > SIII’s are compatible genetic candidates.
> > SIV’s are converted humans that can now include ONI sleeper/covert agents. They can be anybody.
> >
> > SII’s and SIII’s becoming SIV’s would simply mean they’re amalgamated into the program, using the Mk.VII suits and Infinity equipment.
> > Not becoming an SIV could mean staying behind in technology, OR even discharge due to suspicion of potential risk of resisting new policies.
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> i suppose, but I think the three different projects should stay Independent of each other. Mostly so you can see the Chief and, say, Jun in all their glory. They wouldn’t be as incredible if they were one out of thousands…
All thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs.
What’s funny is that all although Jun was altered due to the SIII formula, Jun is no less a Spartan II than the Chief and as such has “all the glory” as he does because he is an SII from amongst the hundreds of SIII’s produced.
ALL of Noble are SII candidates but created via the SIII formula and as such are already superior to the remaining SIII’s, hence why Noble was formed (also on Kurt’s discretion on interpretation of orders).
The Chief and Jun being amalgamated into the SIV program would not make them less than what they are, it would simply allow them access to a greater pool of armament and they would be gods amongst demi-gods for it.
… The suit doesn’t make the Spartan 
The spartan IVs are supposed to be far stronger then the spartan IIIs the spartan 3s were cheap and DIDN’T wear Mjolnir armor. The spartans 4s on the other hand are wearing Mjolnir (light weight version). Plus i saw somewhere Frankie post that the spartan 4s were the equivalent of the spartan IIs with almost everything.
I want to see halo 4 ODST troopers. (if they are there.)
That would be sweet.
> I’d say that only the S1.O’s and S1.1’s can be upgraded.
> SII’s are the peak of genetic potential perfection for a warrior.
> SIII’s are compatible genetic candidates.
> SIV’s are converted humans that can now include ONI sleeper/covert agents. They can be anybody.
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> SII’s and SIII’s becoming SIV’s would simply mean they’re amalgamated into the program, using the Mk.VII suits and Infinity equipment.
> Not becoming an SIV could mean staying behind in technology, OR even discharge due to suspicion of potential risk of resisting new policies.
To be fair, what they mention in the book is that the IIIs have a chance to integrate into the IV program. It could be literally just the program itself, and they might be filling a training role, similar to Mendez and the Spartan-IIs.
Edit : Now that I think about it (and after watching WAY too much Gundam) it’s a little easier when I think of Spartan-IIs as Newtypes, and the IIIs and IVs as Cyber Newtypes. Same ability, one is just a little more … disposable then the other.
> The spartan IVs are supposed to be far stronger then the spartan IIIs the spartan 3s were cheap and DIDN’T wear Mjolnir armor. The spartans 4s on the other hand are wearing Mjolnir (light weight version). Plus i saw somewhere Frankie post that the spartan 4s were the equivalent of the spartan IIs with almost everything.
Depending on your PoV, that sorta works.
Most of the SIIIs were children/teenagers when they died. Very few lived to be adults and therefore where much weaker than the adult SIVs with near similar modifications.
And since Noble Team is comprised of SII candidates, are they really SIII’s? They’re stronger than the other SIII’s and get to use MJOLNIR armour.
However would you consider the MJOLNIR wearing SIII-Headhunters weak? I know they’re kinda stupid for not using their VISR-tech before one of them got stabbed on this one mission, but that’s besides the point.
Is an SIII who has reached adulthood and already survived a suicide-mission or two considered weak?
Is one with such a past using MJOLNIR-tech weak?
Such are questions you should ask the sanctioned sociopaths.
> > The spartan IVs are supposed to be far stronger then the spartan IIIs the spartan 3s were cheap and DIDN’T wear Mjolnir armor. The spartans 4s on the other hand are wearing Mjolnir (light weight version). Plus i saw somewhere Frankie post that the spartan 4s were the equivalent of the spartan IIs with almost everything.
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> Depending on your PoV, that sorta works.
> Most of the SIIIs were children/teenagers when they died. Very few lived to be adults and therefore where much weaker than the adult SIVs with near similar modifications.
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> <mark>And since Noble Team is comprised of SII candidates, are they really SIII’s? They’re stronger than the other SIII’s and get use MJOLNIR armour.</mark>
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> However would you consider the MJOLNIR wearing SIII-Headhunters weak? I know they’re kinda stupid for not using their VISR-tech before one of them got stabbed on this one mission, but that’s besides the point.
> Is an SIII who has reached adulthood and already survived a suicide-mission or two considered weak?
> Is one with such a past using MJOLNIR-tech weak?
> Such are questions you should ask the sanctioned sociopaths.
Actually, they aren’t.
The Spartan II’s weren’t candidates, they were kidnapped children.
Jorge is the only Spartan II.
The others are ordinary Spartan III’s, who volunteered after the Covenant killed their families when they were young.
Kat, Jun, Emile and Six were about six at the time, but Carter was eleven. If they were Spartan II candidates, they would have been far older, as the Spartan II project started somewhere close to the dawn of the 26th century.