I don’t care what she did in the past. She’s human. The Covenant and forerunners are the bad ones not a human.
Tell that to Karen Traviss and her comparison of Halsey to the -Yoink!- Mengele…
One can hope though that Halsey is just playing along to manipulate Jul, but with the aforementioned writer’s portrayal of Halsey and those books being sanctioned by 343 I have my doubts.
> Tell that to Karen Traviss and her comparison of Halsey to the -Yoink!- Mengele…
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> One can hope though that Halsey is just playing along to manipulate Jul, but with the aforementioned writer’s portrayal of Halsey and those books being sanctioned by 343 I have my doubts.
Karen has obviously never heard of Godwin’s law.
I find it surprising so many people think she actually turned bad. Like I’ve said on another thread, the worst she’ll ever do is give Jul’s ships the coordinates to Osman’s beach-house.
She’s obviously just taking advantage of the “I’ve been imprisoned and just got my arm shot off” thing to convince him she’s on his side so as to gain his trust, not get killed, and learn more about Forerunners, the Remnant, possibly get the second half of the Key to the UNSC, etc.
I hope that as Halsey learns more of the circumstances she focuses her revenge on ONI, and not the UNSC as a whole. I hope that John-117 is able to talk some sense into her, and possibly the Librarian (who I believe is at the Absolute Record.) I definitely don’t want to see Halsey as a bad guy, and I would hope that we could hone in on ONI in Spartan Ops Season 2; which I do hope comes out.
It would be really neat to play as Crimson Team along side John-117 for some missions.
I love it. Such an interesting twist, and a great note to end on.
“I want revenge.”
Against ONI? The UNSC? The crew of Infinity?
Or is it all a facade? Who knows, thats the fun!
BRING ON SEASON 2!
> I don’t care what she did in the past. She’s human. The Covenant and forerunners are the bad ones not a human.
So because she’s a human, she has to be one of the good guys, while the Covenant and Forerunners are always the bad guys?
That is far too black and white.
> I don’t care what she did in the past. She’s human. The Covenant and forerunners are the bad ones not a human.
It’s not that simple. What are the covenant? Aliens, and as is the point of most sci-fi Aliens aren’t just a convenient piece of cannon fodder. They’re creatures, creatures with thoughts and feelings all their own and they’re trying to do what’s best for them. Look at the Didact. He’s just trying to ensure the ascendancy of his own people over another race which he has very good reason to hate. Look at Jul. He’s been a thorn in the UNSC’s side but what he’s ultimately after is political power within his own species. We’ve just been getting in the way.
Halsey’s turn exemplifies this no-black-or-white turn to the Halo story line. She can make the switch on over to the covenant side because even the UNSC does not represent the righteous defender of all of humanity. As Palmer showed, they’re willing to murder civilians (which remember Halsey ultimately is in this situation) simply out of convenience. And ex-captain Delrio’s response to the Master Chief is more of the same (do what we say otherwise we’ll put you away.)
So no, the aliens aren’t bad. They’ve simply got a different agenda that in this case lines up better with Halsey’s own (ie. unlock the technology for “the good of the galaxy,” not just the main human military but then again it could just be for revenge.)
I’m interesting in all of this.
But really. “Aliens are bad, humans can’t be bad” attitude…
> > Tell that to Karen Traviss and her comparison of Halsey to the -Yoink!- Mengele…
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> > One can hope though that Halsey is just playing along to manipulate Jul, but with the aforementioned writer’s portrayal of Halsey and those books being sanctioned by 343 I have my doubts.
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> Karen has obviously never heard of Godwin’s law.
Please, she calls her own readers -Yoink!-’s and people with the brains of slavers. Traviss is just a -Yoink-, plain and simple.
Kk, then the Elites in Halo 3 were our enemies even when they tried to help us.
There’s no black and white, just grey.
All of Humanity aren’t “good guys” and not all of the Covenant and any other alien race are the “bad guys”.
Has the Arbiter taught you nothing?
> > I don’t care what she did in the past. She’s human. The Covenant and forerunners are the bad ones not a human.
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> So because she’s a human, she has to be one of the good guys, while the Covenant and Forerunners are always the bad guys?
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> That is far too black and white.
> I don’t care what she did in the past. She’s human. The Covenant and forerunners are the bad ones not a human.
-Yoink!- isn’t bad. It was just the guns that are the bad ones. Not humans.
> Has the Arbiter taught you nothing?
I wonder what the Arbiter is doing within his fight to stay in power. Aliens fight aliens, and humans fight humans; just like in “The Thursday War.”
I think Halsey will get revenge against ONI AND manipulate Jul.
Oh, and please kill off Palmer at some point in the narrative.
> > I don’t care what she did in the past. She’s human. The Covenant and forerunners are the bad ones not a human.
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> -Yoink!- isn’t bad. It was just the guns that are the bad ones. Not humans.
Wait … what?
-Yoink!- wasn’t bad?
Um … 
EDIT: Failed to realize sarcasm.
I’d actually be interested in her conditioning the Covenant Species younglings into Covenant Spartans. Now that would be an interesting enemy evolution.
> > > I don’t care what she did in the past. She’s human. The Covenant and forerunners are the bad ones not a human.
> >
> > -Yoink!- isn’t bad. It was just the guns that are the bad ones. Not humans.
>
> Wait … what?
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> -Yoink!- wasn’t bad?
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> Um …
I was using the same logic as the OP.