And that’s fair, too. Would you happily accept a nerf to MnK if the roles were reversed? I don’t think you’d go as quietly as you make it seem.
After all, nerfs to inputs are quite rare.
It’s always been controller vs controller and mouse vs mouse. With crossplay in the mix, everyone’s freaking out. Nobody has the right answer to settling the debate.
So for now, the only fair option would be to separate the playlists like it was before crossplay made its debut.
You say its the advantage but you fail to take into account the design of the mechanics.
Let’s take warzone which has a headshot mechanic mnk is king. Warzone has aim assist on controller similar to halo but the why you deal with fights is different.
You are more successful in halo aiming body than head.
Mnk players are playing the way they are used to by pure ingrained reflex but the game isn’t designed for that style of play
That could actually also help explain those flawed accuracy data and stats that M&K players keep bleating on about (ie if the tendency for M&K players is to aim for the head but 1 of the 3 bullets doesn’t land then that’s a 33% reduction in accuracy, and that could easily equate to the 10-15% differential which they claim to be the major issue in this flawed accuracy data).
It would make sense I have an above 1kd I don’t aim for the head is I want the shield to pop. Only aim head with sniper and I miss 60% of the shots
My stats as I am literal borderline average
Kd1.07
Accuracy 25.4%
HS ACCURACY 2.5%
The fact is sit with a just about positive kd shows average player of average skill
Thing is, you really can’t nerf MnK. You can’t take away from an already raw input. How would they “nerf” MnK anyway? There are no assist with MnK, or anything the game is doing to help the raw input. If they decide to nerf MnK, then they would be taking away from MnK. MnK would be in the negative. If they nerfed controller, by just dialing back the assistance it gets, it would still be in the positive. Meaning controller is still getting assistance.
When it comes to this, just like every other game that allows the two inputs to compete against each other. Controller should always get assistance, but not to this degree. Other games have made it work, and works well.
No they haven’t made it work well we have just gone with it or used the option to switch off crossplay
Whos to say they’re flawed? Until 343i comes out and is more transparent about this issue, it’s what we have to go by. Most of the people ignoring those stats are people who don’t care, or the ones who favorite controller and who only play/played with controller. The Halo controller pros even admitting to this issue holds no value either, right?
You can’t nerf aim assist on controllers for many obviously reasons and it really isn’t as powerful as you would like to make out…even the video you posted with Snakebites comments clarifies the impact that it would have on the majority of the player base.
Halo is a console game, created for console players and if you don’t like it whilst playing on M&K then you have a very clear option to play on controller too. If you don’t like it or don’t want to stoop to that level because it’s not a challenge for you then that’s just tough…go and play something else that offers you the challenge that you’re looking for.
You didn’t answer my question. They could always introduce more bloom to the weapons to further penalize MnK. Would you accept something like that in the name of balance? It doesn’t have to be right or wrong.
Just would you accept it? Yes or No?
How would that benefit Halo, though? Warzone and Apex Legends are PvP games by heart. Halo’s always been a game that strives for a perfect balance between PvE and PvP. What works on Warzone may not work with Halo.
I’m not going over this with you again.
Actually, whilst I’m here could you please post up those repeat tests that you failed with yesterday.
You do know hes a troll right?
Well he’s either very good at it or incredibly dense.
This is like beating a dead horse I tell you.
For one, Halo may of BEEN a console game, but Halo Infinite launched on PC on day one! Did it not? Does that still make Halo Infinite a console game? It’s not ONLY a console game anymore, so we really need to drop that to defend this issue. I know Halo used to be a console game, key word…USED. Hell, Halo is what sold me an Xbox, so I haven’t forgot where it came from, but that was that was over 20 years ago. Halo 2 is what made me get into PC gaming, when it was launched for Vista. Was new to PC gaming back then but said to myself “wouldn’t it be cool if I could play with my Xbox Halo clan”. Halo 2 on PC looked and ran so much better than Xbox but I still mainly played on Xbox because that’s where my friend played.
I am 40 years old, far from a troll. I state facts and get labeled as a troll? Is calling someone a troll the modern day cop out?
I never once said they should make controller a raw input, have I?
As I said, when I get around to it I will. It’s not a priority of mine right now. I even said maybe this Sunday I’ll do it. Never said I’ll do it yesterday. Why put words in my mouth?
Well you seem quite happy to put words in other posters mouths so why can’t I put some in yours? 
Oh yeah? What have I accused someone of saying that they didn’t say?
And IF I do mistakenly accuse someone of saying something they didn’t say, I apologize. I did it once on this forum because I got a name mixed up. I even explained that to them.
If MnK were dominating then sure, I would allow it. When they actually announced it was coming to PC day one and their plans on cross input and cross input HCS I was a little worried. Worried about controller getting wiped out but that’s not the case.
IF they decided to give MnK more bloom at the current state the game is in, then no I would not accept that.
You’ve been clearly baiting, antagonising and gaslighting other posters with insinuations, assumptions and accusations throughout this thread. May be you don’t realise that you’re doing it or may be you’re doing intentionally…but either way, you do whether you like or admit to it or not.
The thing is when a game mainly sold on console and was developed for the original mechanics to be console then the playstyle is for console.
The thing is if you state facts that are not legitimate (unchecked or not looking at variables) or facts which you yourself have proven to be untrue. I.e perfect being headshot and mnk not having any assist bullet magnetism. Then they aren’t facts they a bias confirmation.
Now if halo changed to play like everywhere game headshot focused twitch shooter that most mnk players are used to then you would lose the console base there bread and butter.
Age doesn’t mean you are not a troll it just makes it sadder when someone is acting like it.
What people are asking for would still allow a pc player to play with whoever they choose it gives the option nothing is taken away from you.
Exactly. No you wouldn’t. Exactly why I don’t except nerfs to aim assist because of how horrible the aim controls are. I have a plausible reason for my defense. I don’t care about how controller does in crossplay. I don’t even want to play against MnK players, so why would I care who has the advantage?
It’s a different input, so why would it matter? The stats aren’t valid because neither input are the same. You’re comparing apples to oranges.
Shouldn’t accuracy be measured in context of the input being used? 50% on controller and 50% on mnk are two different things.