I miss when crossplay was optional

FOV on PC was 103, FOV on Xbox was default. When I get around to it, I’ll doing another video with everything one to one. It’ll still be the same outcome, hence the reason why controller accuracy is as high as it is.

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You have it wrong. Are you playing with MnK? In SWAT and especially in SWAT, at range on MnK you need to zoom in. It’s controller that you don’t need to zoom in.

As long as you run the tests on the same FOV then that’s all that matters. I’d suggest reducing your PC to the same default as Xbox, and then re-run the tests at the higher 103 FOV.

Whilst you’re at it…also run the same series of tests with your controller plugged in to your PC. That test will show whether or not hit box sizes are different on either platform.

Also try position your camera in the centre of the screen, and make sure the crosshairs aren’t on a light background so they can actually be seen clearly.

And no, you can’t state that it will be the same outcome at all if you haven’t done the tests correctly…that’s the whole point of doing tests! :blush:

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Stats clearly show controllers are more accurate, no? There’s a reason why controller are more accurate, because the game is assisting controllers to land shots.

But I will do test again but I can’t center my camera. You see my monitor? It’s a 49" 32x9, you won’t see the whole screen.

That’s total BS. If you’re playing SWAT on Behemoth or Launch Site and shooting cross map, you HAVE to zoom in on console/controller to hit a shot. Also as per my previous post, the FOV is also a massive factor in whether or not you have to zoom or not, and I’m pretty sure it also makes the hit box appear to be smaller just by the very nature of the FOV.

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As I said before, the bullet magnetism carriers at range on controller. It’s a lot easier landing shots on controller.
I can do videos of this, too. I’ve already tried all this out, I think it’s pretty obvious I have everything to test with, right? What facts are you going by? Just curious to know.

I don’t buy into those stats that were published on Reddit. They clearly weren’t proper tests and just pulled a load of random data without context or full information. It’s easy for anyone to obscure stats or believe in stats if it fits their agenda.

Yeah I see your monitor…it’s massive! :joy: Just do the best you can with the re-tests. Appreciate it :+1:

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Buddy, does this guy look like “doing his best” is his main motive?

He’s leans to much on stats and never explains them in detail. He doesn’t even know how they were calculated.

And surely won’t analyze the stats on a per weapon basis.

It’s the data we have to go by, and it explains a lot. Someone took the time to pull the info that’s available, give credit where credit is due. So until 343i post the actually differences between the two, it’s what we got and like it or not, it holds value.

Those stats are great halo at top level has been a controller game your going to get the ones with experience on controller. Again it doesn’t take into account what system they are using and here is the big but whether they are cheating. As we know the halo cheats don’t care so much there input method.

Think about that for a minute. Most of the console players here want an option to turn off crossplay because of cheaters. IF the top MnK players are cheaters, well that didn’t help buffing the accuracy.

I’m not going to attack anyone personally on here tbh when we all want the same thing…which is an even and fair game regardless of what platform or input we use.

Unfortunately this will NEVER happen with crossplay. It’s nice in theory but in reality it’s total BS. The bottom line is that this is supposed to be a competitive FPS game, and for a game to be classed as competitive then it HAS to be balanced and equal for all players…and this is clearly not.

There is a very good reason why eSports has NEVER done cross platform tournaments. We may be playing the same game but the different platforms mean we’re playing by different rules…so by the very definition of competitive gaming, crossplay simply isn’t and never will work in a competitive FPS game.

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I wasn’t on about top mnk players as its open pc you can use a lot of the hacks on pc but still with a controller.

Cmon you think it’s just mnk players.

I think he’s talking about controller players on PC…you know that’s a thing, right? Also it is also reported that playing with controller on PC also provided more aim assist than controller on console. So that’s another for you to do! :joy:

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I’m sorry. All this guy wants is to dominate the playlists. He doesn’t want the same thing.

I’ve been telling him this for the last 3 days and all he does is make smart--Yoink!- replies and grandstand like he’s some competitive god.

I’m not going to remain civil if he’s just going to keep talking down to everyone like they’re inferior. Talking about casuals and controller players they way he does isn’t in a way that promotes discussion.

He’s got a problem with being disrespectful. Now I know I’m not handling it in the best way, I’ll admit that, but you can’t expect civil discussion if you’re not being civil yourself. That’s all I’ll say.

Yeah to be honest I’m bored to death with this topic…I had it for 2 years with COD (with steamers like Dr Disrespect fanning the “aimbot” fire) and now predictably we have it with Halo Infinite now that they’ve forced crossplay on to us.

They just need to give us the option to disable platform based crossplay as they did with CODMW. The game is a broken mess so I’ll give them a bit longer to sort out the other issues, but if they don’t deliver crossplay options within the next few months (6 months max) then I’ll sack it off…and they won’t be getting a penny from me until they do give us this basic option.

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I back u there in the same line of thought

How do you figure that’s all I want? Calling someone a casual player is being disrespectful? That makes no sense. I think calling someone a “noob” is disrespectful but I don’t talk that langue, and I’ve never called you or anyone else that.

All I’ve been preaching is fairness. Your idea of fairness is keeping the game the way it is but to separate the inputs. That isn’t fixing anything, that’s avoiding the problem in hand. That’s known as “catering” to a certain group, that group being controller. How much more proof do you need? There’s endless of videos online explaining this and showing this exact issue. There’s plenty of videos of MnK players who haven’t touched a controller in years that all of a sudden are landing ridiculous shots with controller. Again, what kind of proof do you need? Do you need someone from 343i to come and slap you and tell you to wake up? You have all the facts you need right in front of you but you’re too ignorant to accept them, for whatever reason that is.

I can tell you one thing, this is getting worse than Xbox vs PS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfzzXK7n_fY

This guy kind of explains in detail how the stats were calculated.

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And nerfing bullet magnetism is? These are things affecting newer players. Not skilled ones. It’s unnecessarily widening the skill gap. How’s that fair?

This isn’t solving any problems. It’s creating problems. That’s what you don’t get. What you refuse to get because you can’t see it any other way, but your own.

Yeah. I know. I’ve seen everyone use that same damn graph for their arguments.

That doesn’t mean you should nerf magnetism, but give players choice over which platform to play on. As I’ve said for the 1000th time.