Blaming things like desync on crossplay isn’t based on anything. It’s a load of nonsense until proven otherwise.
I’m not an -Yoink!- for pointing out that uninformed opinions are worthless.
Having that one set of numbers released is a lot more to work with that some dude online and his uninformed ‘reckon’ or anything anecdotal.
Crossplay certainly needs work. This is the only shooter I’d ever use a controller for and it sucks that I have to. Be nice if the inputs were better balanced.
Agreed.
We (MnK players) should also have the choice of playing with our xbox friends and not be at a huge disadvantage.
You inferred that I was a kid and my brain wasn’t fully developed on the other post, so I’d still say you’re a -Yoink-.
You’re just as uninformed as everyone else on this forum. Let’s not try to play the “I need proof” card when you can easily google some of the claims to see if they’re true.
I’m certainly uninformed like you rest of you. The difference is I’m not trying to use a feature within the game as a scapegoat.
Console player stuck in diamond. Must be because of crossplay.
Horrible desync? Must be crossplay. 343 are working on it for the update next month. The solution isn’t going to be removing crossplay.
Asks what’s wrong with crossplay? Never get anything concrete just that it has issues and needs to go. Or some other game got subjectively worse at some point in history; with the blame, again, pointed at crossplay in the same uninformed manner.
I just wanna play with my friends man. Crossplay is cool. People back in 2007 could only dream about something like this. I remember it well.
I’m not blaming desync on crossplay. But I’m also not ruling it out as a possibility or a contributing factor in the overarching problem. There’s no evidence to say the two aren’t related either. But as I mention, the precedent exists.
My guy, nobody is trying to take it away.
Currently, with the way it’s set up, choice only exists in ranked; and your party can’t be larger than two people.
That’s not giving players a choice. That’s selective.
You ever play Deadbydaylight? That went from no crossplay to crossplay and issues just increased.
But that game has the option to turn it off, like most games do and always should. He just want to insult people for wanting an option, seen many people like him on many forums.
Asking for a choice, which was said to always be optional and never forced is only fair. But hes so dead set on controller vs mouse stats (which you can use on either device so doesnt even matter in the crossplay conversation)
Actually had to create an account to respond as you are just shouting all you can.
But you seem to want reasons why people want crossplay to be an option.
Let’s get the elephant out the room hacks, macros and scripts are far more likely to appear on PC. It’s given yes console has exploits but far less often.
Controls mnk by far gives more control so power weapons become a lot more deadly. Long range you stand little chance of out aiming. Yes console can play mnk but in reality most are going to be controller.
Then we have movement mnk due to the nature provides better turning, aiming while jumping is easier and more movement.
Then we have equipment. Higher framerates, resolutions and generally customisable equipment. All lead to a slight p2w model. Not saying better equipment means godly but it all adds in.
Then we have vehicles, cumbersome as he’ll for controller simple controls for pc alongside that superioir aiming. Get a pc player in a tank against consoles your f’#.
Now we come servers where no evidence is present because the only people who can really provide is 343 history shows poorly implemented crossplay can increase issues.
So generally I like to play kn console as I know most the time it’s balanced. The person is likely using a similar setup so it becomes about skill and I don’t need to question where forced crossplay then has me going back to see was he good or was he cheating.
And then you have games where pc players just want to keep distance standing at the back and slowing the hole game down.
So there are your reasons go nuts
Forgot to add pc still has bullet magnetism the aim assist ain’t that much unless your are close
I’ll keep it simple. Have you ever tried to play Halo Infinite with m&k? Ever once used it in the crossplay ranked list?
Give it a go. I’ll wait. All of these advantages are not there. The released figures make it clear and does actually trying to play m&k. Most professional players would be established m&k pros transitioning from other games, but it isn’t. They aren’t playing the game at all.
Actually do try it. Don’t come back saying you do it on your Xbox one all the time and that you’re a 2000 Onyx if you’re not. Lying to strangers on the internet is silly.
I don’t know why we bother this game is dull af. Hopefully Blizzard get on a conference call and give them a hand on how to make an interesting event. Overwatch events were genuinely great. This is piss poor.
This is part of the problem. These controller players haven’t tried MnK. Most know the game is assisting them a great deal, and now they’re in defense mode in hopes 343i does nothing about it. Controller should have no problem going up against a MnK player, they have all the advantage right there in their hands. IF they are getting out gunned by MnK than that comes down to skill, or lack of. Just because someone is better than you doesn’t mean they’re cheating. If a MnK player is better than you it defiantly isn’t because MnK has an advantage, I think we all know by now which input has the advantage.
There’s a person here who claims to have “tried” playing Halo with MnK, he says the whole aiming is broken with mouse. IF he really tried Halo with MnK and he feels the aiming is broke, compared to controller I can see how he feels is valid. Since you can be off target with controller and still land your shots for the kill where on MnK that’s not possible. So yeah, I can see how he feels it’s broken but it’s not. That’s how it’s supposed to be. He never explained how it feels broken to him, so I can only assume that’s how it felt.
There’s also another person here who said he plays Halo with MnK and has no problem going up against controller players. I looked up his stats and that’s a lie, he’s a controller player. I replied and called him out but he isn’t saying anything.
Bottom line, controller players know they have the advantage and they don’t want that taken away from them. The only thing they can really pin on MnK is cheating. Granted I don’t have a lot of hours played, I’m at only 47 hours total and 12 hours in MnK ranked but I have yet to see any players cheating, or anything that makes me question it.
I’ve tried mnk but not a native mnk player it feels worse. I don’t play ranked don’t give a **** about it. Controller has advantage close range will happily say that.
However if you are on mnk and losing gunfight at a distance you have the advantage. Each has its strengths.
What you have done is ignored everything given and basically complained about aim assist. Pc has bullet magnetism so the only thing console has is retinal lock which again only works close range.
What harm comes from xbox players wanting to keep to a more controlled environment.
Hell pc players have been screaming master race for the past decade you think they would be OK to stand on their own feet.
If you know how to configure a desktop properly your movement will far outstrip a console player.
Also would love to see these figures as the only ones I have seen you spout is for accuracy but still no actually evidence
I’ve used a mnk on Halo infinite. It’s not fun.
Not because of the advantages. Because it messes with my carpal tunnel.
You gonna say I want an advantage now? Maybe I just want to play the game without my hands hurting.
-Yoink!-.
Hey guess what mnk has bullet magnetism you can be off target and still hit. What your describing is being way off target. That is a lack of skill.
Mnk has bullet magnetism.
Controller has retinal lock (not that strong compared to other games) and bullet magnetism.
I never claimed to be good at the game, nor do I care about being good at it. It’s a video game, I play for fun.
Forcing choices on people isn’t fun. Regardless of it being crossplay, playlist selections, challenges, etc.
If you take away a persons choices, then they will simply chose to take their business elsewhere.
I chose to play on console because I didn’t want to play with PC players. I was a PC player for nearly 15 years (across many games), I don’t want to deal with that community anymore.
We were promised crossplay would NEVER not be an option. But once again looks like we’ve been lied to.
I made a video proving your theory wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ-RwtL2xm8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BjEmIxmdFhI you wanna look at 7:43 for mnk bullet magnetism on pc.
It’s well known. And the funny thing is you even said yourself it’s hard to quickly change precision on console. Try the same test again and not use a scope. Then stand at a distance look at your feet spin with a sniper and try to get a headshot. Again both have advantages they are just polar making for very boring games as all that happens is you have pc players trying to keep distance against console rush. 9/10 times you know who is on mnk by the play style.
It’s defiantly stronger with controller. As my video proves that.
It proves that you’re still getting assistance. Regardless of whether you’re on mouse or controller. You’re a hypocritic.
A sad one, too.
For a start, this is clearly a hit box issue not a controller issue. Whether or not hit boxes are a different size on Xbox and PC is another question.
Secondly, if you run tests then you have to make sure all things are equal and they clearly aren’t in your video so sorry but you’ve wasted your time on that video. Do the tests again with the same FOV on both platforms as the results could be a lot different on 120 FOV compared to whatever you had on the Xbox.
It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that the hit box would be smaller on higher FOV due to the more zoomed out fish bowl perspective. I’d genuinely be interested in knowing the out come because I’m pretty sure that I’m at a disadvantage playing at 120FOV particularly when it comes to long range shots in SWAT.
Added an edit. Apologies it was a thought after. But your claim was its not possible you literally proved it yourself but without zooming which most pc players don’t need to its the same