I miss weapon spawns...

Anyone else feel that the levels are slow and empty with the lack of weapons spawning?

I know there are initial spawns, but that’s it really the rest is all ordnance. That’s alright, but come on, what about the little people? The people that aren’t too good and just want to pick up the rocket launcher and go nuts>

Valhalla is a prime example of lack of weapons. If I’m not being killed/killing with a DMR then I’m doing it with the battle rifle. 343i added all these great new weapons to the series and the never come up. For me my ordnance ALWAYS consist of needler and SAW. Great guns, but I have put my hand on my heart and say I’ve never had the cannon as one.

This game just isn’t feeling like Halo, I loved randomly picking up a gun and having no idea what it did. Thanks to 343 we’re unable to do that.

I’m normally all for what 343 has done and changes (lack of BTB objective, Falcon and forge world are -Yoinking!- stupid though) but recently I’ve just felt that the maps, mainly the bigger ones, are lacking in weapons that aren’t DMR or Battle rifle.

Come on, I can’t be the only one thinking this!?!

Agreed, especially on the larger maps. They just feel so barren.

At the very least it’d be nice for the starting weapons to spawn on the map or just ammo crates so we can get a resupply if we run low/out. Especially on Dominion matches, who builds a base with no ammo storage anyway?

> Agreed, especially on the larger maps. They just feel so barren.
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> At the very least it’d be nice for the starting weapons to spawn on the map or just ammo crates so we can get a resupply if we run low/out. Especially on Dominion matches, who builds a base with no ammo storage anyway?

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!!

CTF on Valhalla would actually be fun if there were weapon spawns and it wasn’t just a dmr fest, or even if there were ordnance. I hate the fact they took out weapon spawns AND ordnance in CTF, either leave one in or both.

dude play dominion… there is never a shortage of different types of weapons and rides…

> dude play dominion… there is never a shortage of different types of weapons and rides…

There is never a shortage of people camping with the endless supply of Rockets, either. I didn’t like BTB Heavies in Reach, why would I like BTB Heavy Territories in Halo 4?

But Dominion is so -Yoink-.

It maybe because all the maps are big, but cluttered, or the fact each time I join a match it’s about to end and the people I’m teamed up with are so limited.

I just miss the big team experience 2/3 had. Big open levels, lots of guns and vehicles. The only big open level in 4 is Valhalla and that is a barren waste land consisting of DMRs :frowning:

There is so much wrong with Halo 4 …

Finally, a problem the casuals and the hardcore gamers can agree upon. And who said we were so different and couldn’t get along.

Just imagine how great it would be if there were weapons on Valhalla, and everyone and their grandma couldn’t hit a 5 across the map with a DMR because you don’t get knocked out of scope. Or the guy you just killed, insta-spawns with a direct line of sight on you. Okay I’ll stop now.

The feeling of timing a weapon spawn perfectly, picking it up as it dropped, and then instantly getting a kill with it is incredible. I wish it was in H4.

They never should have switched from classic weapon spawns, and i’m sure that if 343 have any sense they’ll switch back to normal weapon spawns with H5.

Yea another thing in this game I struggle to see why it was changed. I feel like they didn’t finish programming in more random weapon drops. Like OP said there are sometimes starting weapons but then nothing spawns after that.

> They never should have switched from classic weapon spawns, and i’m sure that if 343 have any sense they’ll switch back to normal weapon spawns with H5.

To me that’s too late.

Halo 4 is the game that basically will decide whether the next xbox is bought and whether I follow the Halo series.

The campaign was great, from a story telling point of view I’ll definitely be picking it up, but from a mulitplayer side, the levels have too much going on in terms of environment and not enough weapons and interactive things for the player.

God I hope the map packs make up for this…

Totally agree with this one. I like the touch of the Weapon spawns being ordnance drops buts make the respawns/drops more regular.

Also bring back the Brute Shot and Spiker… I miss them

> Also bring back the Brute Shot and Spiker… I miss them

That is on a very LONG list of items that should come back.

Falcons
Choppers
BTB Objectives
Big maps that aren’t cluttered with rocks and buildings

These are the things I’d love to see.

**SIDE NOTE:**Has anyone actually made a Valhalla remake yet? All that really needs to be done is changing vehicles, adding weapon respawn and taking out ordnance.