Why fix something that isn’t broken?
Because it is. It doesn’t work, it doesn’t fill a niche, it basically cuks the player who uses it.
I’m glad the old shotgun is gone. I find the bulldog to be much more interesting and actually engaging to use.
The fact it was a situational weapon is probably why it was removed. Unless you were at super close range it was effectively useless.
The bulldog still allows for a close ranger play style but opens up your range a bit more.
Using and having the bulldog used against you is more fun in Infinite. The one shot camping around the corner is eliminated from the game.
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I definitely miss it and want it added to the game but I’ve started getting use to the spitfire shot gun and the bulldog. At first I hated them but after using them a lot in rank I fell in love. The two new shotguns helped me hit Onyx lol. But I would still like the old shotgun, I would like it back with a slower reload time, less ammunition and hitting further distances and with balance drop off.
But that’s the point. What makes a great sandbox is a good variety of situational weapons. The shotgun has great uses like in ctf or obviously any cqc. It is countered easily and its why it’s not over powered.
I do miss the old shotgun. I’m not a fan of the bulldog. I only use the bulldog in Ranked Arena because for some reason I feel like it’s stronger/strongest there in competitive play. I don’t enjoy using it in casual play.
I’m also missing the Spartan Laser, that was a cool gun.
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Everyone already has, its not a complicated weapon like the Shock Rifle for example. I’m not complaining because its a fair weapon.
Using your same logic we should spawn with shotguns? You do realize there is a difference between what players spawn with and pickups right? Put a little more effort into arguments.
If you playing BTB balance isn’t so important, but when it comes to competitive/4v4 its huge. Lots of old Halo weapons have no place in 4v4’s currently.
I 100% agree. I was disappointed to see it replace the old one but willing to give it a shot… until I realized it takes 2 shots to kill someone IF you get a head shot on the second one. How on Earth is anyone supposed to get any kills with this weapon?
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I’m sure they would add the old shotgun, it can definitely fit in the sandbox, especially since the bulldog is way different, and the classic shotgun can be classified as a power weapon. In the meantime we just need to be as vocal about it as we can so 343 knows it’s a priority. Also would love to see the magnum and the plasma rifle to return.
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I dearly miss the old shotgun. The Bulldog just might be the most useless gun in the history of Halo.
What’s the point of a 2-shot shotgun when I can just melee someone twice? The 2-shot range of the bulldog seems to be about the same. If i’m not sure i’d rather just spray with the AR then punch.
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It just needs to be a power weapon like the sword or the hammer.
Treat it is as it is a weapon of pure destruction that only one person can have.
Think about Chill Out and Halo 1. It was either you had the Rockets or you had the Shotty.
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Unfortunately past blog posts don’t mean anything. The inside infinite from last December that said we’d have tons of customisation options on release got deleted.
The Bulldog is routinely left on the rack in ranked. It is not particularly an advantage over the Mangler you can pick up around every corner–both are mostly only useful for one-shot and melee combo. If you’re at a range you need 3 shots, you probably already had the BR out and if you spend time switching to the Bulldog, you will already be toast.
In H5, you would absolutely never pass up the shotgun since it was an actual legitimate competitive advantage as a semi-power weapon.
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Sadly, like many of the new weapons in my opinion. 
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Ditto. The classic shotty is one of the definitive Halo weapons and was always fun to use. “Replacing” it with the Bulldog just feels like a step down in every way.
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I hope they will add them for 4v4 too, that would be a shame to only have them in BTB.
Edit: And in campaign too.
Nah, the bulldog shreds way harder. The old shotgun can stay right where it is, we have the sword for its job anyway.
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Yeah, in better games 
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