I agree it wouldn’t fill a specific niche but it never really has before and it’s always been a fine weapon. We already have several weapons that basically fill the same niche and are still in the game. I agree somewhat that having it would just be nostalgia but I don’t really think that’s a negative - especially with Halo, which isn’t purely a competitive game. There’s gonna be campaign and probably other PvE stuff down the line as well as forge and customs - tons of people just play Halo for fun.
Also it’s not better than the rocket or the sniper at all. The sniper has a higher skill ceiling but it’s a better weapon that can one shot from any range, including point blank. The rocket is literally just a point and kill weapon, 0 skill and free kills at a much longer range and higher radius. The old shotgun was certainly capable of getting multikills but to one-shot with it you had to be literally pointblank, if you managed to get a triple or an overkill in 4v4 with it then the people you did it to did something wrong.
All that being said I’m fine with the bulldog, it’s a different kind of weapon as you say and if there’s only room for one or two melee power weapons right now I’m glad it was the sword and the hammer and not the shotgun that they chose. They’re just more interesting weapons.
I don’t really have a horse in this race but I feel like I should point out the bulldog still serves the purpose of overpowering melee.
Yeah, it’s a two-shot kill, but if you shot/bash you’re going to kill them immediately. I’ve already had a killtacular with the bulldog on BTB and a few overkills with it in 4v4, it’s really not that bad lol
Should melee by banned because you can get backsmack by someone hiding in a corner? The OG shotgun was a power weapon, just like the sniper and rocket launcher. It had no range and a long wait time between shots. It was a one shot weapon because it needed to be.
The new bulldog only seems fair to you because it doesn’t kill as fast at close range, but it does. One shot and a melee is enough to kill. Once everyone figures that out, YOU will be complaining about the bulldog.
The old shotgun was balanced perfectly. It was an extremely situational power weapon. But it was very easily countered, and anyone complaining about getting 1 shot camped, stay mad campers are extremely easy to outplay if you’re not constantly sperging all around the map at full speed like all nugamers do. If you think, you can kill them, but unfortunately newer games remove thinking and replace it with twitch reflexes and constantly sprinting.
The new one is -Yoink!-, always takes more than one shot unless you point blank nail a headshot. Making it headshot specific has absolutely killed it’s place in the sandbox. It was always an extremely short range but lethal weapon. And it was never out of balance.
Hell in Reach the best CQC weapon wasn’t the hammer, sword or shotgun it was actually the Dino blaster. That thing could stop a freight train, was way better and safer at stopping the sword than the shottie ever was.
the only correct thing about the bulldog is its name because its absolute dog… halo has been nearly the only modern shooter series i could point to with a good shotgun and even then over the years they’ve been neutering it with every iteration. while i am heartbroken at the lack of my space 8 gauge. im not surprised
I was never very good with any shotgun, although I did like that white one that could kill at relatively long range. But I’m fine without one. I’ll never play campaign so multiplayer will have to be fine as it is, shotgun or not.
I should have been more clear. It’s a good gun, but a bad shotgun. It basically has the same stats as the H3 Mauler, but it can’t take advantage of Dual-wielding which, IMO, great complimented the Mauler. And on that note, if the purpose of the gun is to Shoot-Melee, then we already have a gun for that, the Mangler, except the Mangler is much harder to use.
100% agree. I haven’t had a good time at all trying to use the Bulldog. Far too many times so far where I’m landing multiple shots and not getting kills in situations where the old school shotgun would have 1 shotted the enemy, or left them weak enough to be easily finished off with a second shot or melee. The shotgun should be in the game, plain and simple.
The Bulldog just isn’t good enough in close quarters, and other guns are better options at longer ranges despite the added range the Bulldog has.
yes, I miss the old shotgun. Without it we have no good counter for the energy sword. Now the energy sword reigns supreme in CQC. The bulldog is a weak substitute
I’m hoping when they say that guns are going to have various different versions of themselves that they mean they bring back some of the classics and more!
they ‘felt the shotgun was never made properly’ or some nonsense like that… despite the fact that FOR TWO GAMES they kept the same pump action shotgun. honestly i miss Reach’s shotgun, that was like 10/10, the best halo shotgun along side Halo 3’s shotgun.
in my personal oppinion, the ‘bulldog’ looks like something from BLACK OPS 2 OR 3, and not a Halo game. i don’t at all like it, and i hate it so much along with the ‘sidekick’… which is just a glock -v-
Thee_Bluejay is just a contrarian. He contradicted himself earlier in a different thread and when I pointed it out he went radio silent. Just ignore him. He is a troll.
