I’m Fed up with Halo Fans and Thankful for Halo Infinite

Of course it’s reasonable, as long as it;s not venom, hate and malicious. Bonnie Ross maybe an okay person, but as the head person at 343 or any company for that matter, she is not competent. For some odd reason Microsoft hasn’t recognized it, or they they have, but In typical Microsoft fashion, they are slow to take action.

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Can you not interact with me if all you’re going to do is call me a shill?

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Agreed,

There is always options when giving an opinion, suggestion, etc… It’s just a matter of how willing whoever is giving an opinion on how open they are.

IMO I believe they don’t care anymore. When I look back on how Bungie wanted out of Halo, who was pushing them to create Halo Reach? The only reason they pushed was because it was making them money, and now that that isn’t an issue anymore knowing they have other projects going it’s not really going to effect them.

The day an age of creating a game with quality content is gone. Today it’s all about profit and that means use any means necessary to get it. That is where gaming is head these days.

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343 over the past years of stewardship for the Halo franchise has led me to believe that they are simply unable or incapable or unwilling to give Halo the effort it deserves.

From hiring people who hate Halo to making Halo what it’s not supposed to be along with hiring inexperienced writers as well as, of all things, deciding to focus on Nail Polish campaigns to market their game over crossing over with their own TV show, it shows me that 343 indeed has no idea what they are doing. That, or so out of touch with reality that its suffocating Halo’s growth.

You should also realise that alot of the players calling 343 out are doing so because they felt burnt by 343 after shilling for Infinite for the entire year leading up the its release, hyping players up and getting players interested. It honestly feels painful looking at these content creators or players try and talk about Halo in a good light but then 343 stabs them in the back with say, another campaign for a damn cookbook or something.

No, 343 needs a major restructuring and the entire studio needs a shakeup because this sort of mismanagement has gone unchallenged for far, far too long.

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I agree, 343 is not a developer that is capable of giving this game what it actually needs.

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343’s passion for the franchise became ultra clear to me when I saw the Halo TV series, I would never have imagined such poor, incompetent vision and writing. I think back to when the reboot of Battlestar Galactica came out and how well that was done, space, action, suspense, and it still holds up today, because quality matters, and the best a power house like 343/Microsoft can come up with is forgettable mindless content like the Halo series?

That’s what they have done to the Halo franchise. It is a sure thing that anyone who needs quality content will never spend money on a 343 product again, not until if and when they prove themselves worthy.

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To be perfectly fair, it’s Paramount’s side which are at fault here. 343 gave them “creative freedom” and they squandered it writing a generic sci-fi flick which no one wanted.

Previously, Halo shows were hard to get on board with because you had so many guidelines and pre-established lore that writers or show runners hesitate to touch and with good reason too. My point here was the 343 was so over their head with the whole broader audience thing that they failed to even create cross-promotion within their own franchise. Imagine that.

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Thank you for your feedback. I am getting a little better about the rocking in a corner thing. Been almost two weeks since my last episode.

TV show was absolute balls. You’re right.

I appreciate your list of things you’re thankful for. I too am hoping that as 343 works on the game it will only get better.

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I don’t act like one for starters.

I’m sorry you’re upset, but that’s not my issue.

I’ve explained to you at length why I feel the way I feel. If you’re just gonna call me names like a child, then there’s really no point in discussing this further.

  • says that people criticizing 343’s upper management is harassment and crossing the line

  • then proceeds to tell someone else that they are the ones who are upset

bro, what?? :rofl:

You actually haven’t at all. Majority of this thread is myself and several others emphasizing how upper management is definitely responsible for this franchises direction and all you’ve done is say that since we don’t work there we are wrong. I’d hardly say that is explaining at length the way you feel :joy:

At least there’s one thing we can agree on! Can’t reason with someone who puts their head in the sand

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I said calls to “fire Ross” and “fire 343” repeatedly was harassment. Are you dense?

Oh forget it. I don’t care anymore.

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How is that harassment? It’s common sense - Why should someone who repeatedly fails at managing a company continue to manage it? What is so hard for you to understand about that?

  • Proceeds to call me names, like a child :joy: :joy: :joy:

I’m just going to do you a favor and stop replying so you stop embarrassing yourself lol

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Microsoft/343 had to sign off on the project, and that to me is what demonstrates they have literally thrown in the towel on preserving the quality of the Halo franchise. There are many artists/creators that have never allowed the adulteration of their content, sadly Microsoft is not one of those companies.

In the last few years I have seen countless movies come out that were just shells of their original intent, and were nothing more than quick cash grabs. At the moment, quality and respect for established work seems to be taking a back seat to profit. My point is, Microsoft could have easily demanded a much better Halo franchise representation, but chose not to.

I would like to say, there is no disrespect intended, it’s just the way I see it.
Cheers

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You’re alright mate, hopefully I didn’t come off too harsh. There’s nothing wrong with looking at and appreciating the positives I just don’t think it’s healthy to glaze over things. You need to be healthy, like me, rocking back and forth in the corner for the RIGHT reasons lol.

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Agreed, I think halo shows/movies were hard to get on board with and had so many ‘rules’ to follow before because you had people like Joe and Marty at the head of bungie and they treated the franchise like their baby.

I would put money on it that if a Halo movie or TV show ever came about in that era that Marty would not sign off on it unless he scored the music himself (rightfully so). And didn’t Joe say he co-wrote the script for the halo movie that Neil Blomkamp was supposed to direct that fell through? Thought I remember reading that in an article back then.

Just goes to show the difference of passion the two studios had for their product. One always put the franchise first and knew that the money would follow if the product was good - which it always was. The other puts greed as their top priority and it shows

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I’m not a shill, but I’m sure you won’t care. After all I want 343 to keep working on Halo. That must automatically make me a shill.

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I agree 100%. To be fair on the OP, the vast majority of the complaint posts and videos are about cosmetics too.

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I’m a member of a few Facebook Halo groups and on Reddit but was pretty surprised how toxic some of the people and post are here.
I mean they complain there as well but not as bad as it is on here.
I don’t get the negative posts from people that still come on here yet they say they have not even played in the game in weeks or more.
Yeah it needs some improvements but end of the day really loving this game.

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I stopped playing Halo for the PvP after H4.
I’m mostly in Halo for the PvE and Singleplayer.
They promised Halo to be a “10 year game”, yet the campaign is a desaster (gameplay and story wise), there is no incentive to even replay the story or explore the open world and there is no co-op except for testing as of yet.
I haven’t touched Halo since December, but I will come to the forum and make my voice heard in a sense that they advertised this game to be “the” Halo, yet all there is, is a broken promise.

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Careful. That sounds a little toxic and negative. sarcasm

Yeah completely agree with you mate. We’re invested Halo fans and want the series to do well so give justified criticism and feedback.

But apparently unless you’re happy with everything and/or keep playing despite the game still being in complete shambles; you should probably just keep your mouth shut and go away. Wow. It’s astounding to me how the positivity brigade doesn’t realize how toxic and negative they are.

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