I’m Fed up with Halo Fans and Thankful for Halo Infinite

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I’m fed up with 343 and thankful there are other developers.

People will complain about a variety of things but it’s not hard to see what is just complaining to complain, and what are legit complaints. You need the separate the 2 because there is a (huge difference.)

The way you presented yourself with this post and then say you are thankful for petty nonsense like cosmetics, really? The only legit thing you said to be thankful for was the effort the devs do to try to improve thing that are within (their control) which with most of the work they do is not.

Oh, by the way, those that said the original Bungie was better, they are 100% correct.

We went from a company that had devs that were gamers that had heart and a say in what took place in the game they were designing that had passion, inspiration, motivation to create a game for the player base as well as themselves. To, a business that is the complete opposite that is only thinking about themselves that can’t even release a complete game let alone add the basics of a Halo game in 2022 and it’s almost a year later.

Oh, but guess what, they got your cosmetics you can buy, so we all should be grateful, right?

Sorry, not sorry, this was a vary poor overall when it comes to a quality type of game that had hart vs whatever this is.

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I can’t help but notice that only two of your many items that you are thankful for have anything to do with game play. Not a good sign when character customization is the majority of what you like in an FPS.

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nah, this game is embarrassing i used to brag about halo now i’d rather it not be mentioned in conversation

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Infinite is described perfectly by one ultra famous book opening.

“It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.”

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Even 343 themselves aren’t satisfied with the game. Even from a greedy perspective, the player count is down, which means profit is too.

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Maybe it’s just time you leave Halo?

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3,000 average players on Steam per day. That’s something to not be proud of. Hell, Farming Simulator 2021 gets 11,000 per day on average which if I was 343 I’d be absolutely embarrassed by that.

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I gave up when I saw what they did with watchdog.
I pop in daily to look for good news.

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I’m kinda glad Infinite came out, but not happy about the MP being FTP cause of MTX. That’s my big complaint, plus they’re trying to monetize the MCC with purchasable spartan points witch no one asked for. It’s just gonna put more fuel into the hate on 343.

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Vague, gratuitous, and unconstructive criticism is unwarranted but what about the criticism that is constructive of HI faults?

In previous incarnations we’ve seen how constructive criticism could bring back good change to HI, I’ll list a couple of examples:

  • Players asking for the return of a more classic art style

  • Toning down the advanced mobility

  • Master Chief Spartan Mark VII armor

  • Dislike for microtransactions

Some of these examples I listed are what players commemorated 343 for. Without this criticism, some of the ideas in your list you listed you were specifically thankful for may not be here, such as faithful reproduction for the Halo Reach armor or Master Chiefs armor.

That doesn’t mean I’ll discredit the work 343, from what I heard the people working there are hard-working and want the very best from the game. Unfortunately, I also heard the management and leadership is a mess.

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It’s truly astonishing how a free to play game can bring so much anger and frustration. Like if the store is too expensive simply do not buy the items. The game has multiple Spartans that could’ve been unlocked through various events. This game is in great hands and it’ll continue to improve over time.

For example, todays drop pod brings a great update and two new 2v2 playlists in two weeks time today.

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I agree with most of what you said. The main base are jerks. Ive enjoyed every halo till this one. I LOVED halo 4 when it dropped. I said all it needed was an actual FF mode outside of SO and it would’ve been a box office smash. I was crucified for this belief back then. My main gripes are technical and customization issues.

IMO weapons didn’t need balancing maps do. That’s slowly happening.

I like the armor abilities and the vehicles and can’t wait for more to be added but as of right now, there is a lot wrong with infinite.

The coatings are terrible. We need to be able to have a custom slot to to utilize materials patterns and color pallets to design our own. They can keep making coatings for people to buy, but an additional system for revenue won’t stagger them money. That’s the dumbest argument. If 50 people won’t purchase a 700 cred coating but WILL buy a 500 cred material, 250 pattern, and 200 color pallets is some how hemorrhaging money is insane to me.

The lack of Elite playability in 343 games is staggeringly noticable. And there are people who are willing to do the art and work for them. People have talked in other threads about a tennogen (Warframes player made skins armor and so forth) for Halo, where we can design and vote on armor for species and other things to be brought into the game.

Desync and ping issues, they suck terribly. Cross play is just horrid to me. I shut it off inside my console everytime.

The campaign I haven’t touched because I’ve played EVERY single game co op. So I can’t comment on that.

Otherwise halo infinite to me… Is a solid 4/10. Once co op and forge drop 8/10. Fix coatings and add elites: 117/10. Best Halo yet.

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LMAO so expecting people to be held accountable for their incompetence is harassment or crossing the line? This is 343’s FOURTH halo release under the same upper management - they have now been halo developers longer than bungie - and they have yet to launch a complete game that wasn’t a complete disaster at launch.

Halo is Xbox’s flagship title, and one of if not THE most recognizable video game brands in the world, next to COD, Mario, Fortnite, ect. And in todays day and age where internet and video games are more accessible than ever before, and there is way more people playing than ever before, there is on average 5,000 people playing this game at a time. I don’t even think it is in Xbox’s top charts anymore, its pathetic and the only people to blame are the ones at the top who are in charge of the decision making

343 is microsoft. That is why people want a competent developer to be in charge of this IP, not Microsoft. That is probably one of the big reasons bungie left, I’m sure they knew this was the path halo was headed down

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No?

Bungie isn’t really the win you think it is. I should know since I spent all of Year 1 and 2 of Destiny 2 waiting for content.

Bottom line, just wait please? You’re not holding anyone accountable by asking them to be fired.

Yeah, 343 isn’t doing so well but harassing them isn’t going to make anything go by faster. That’s just my opinion.

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That’s it in a nutshell, “You feel like”. Well let’s travel back a bit in time, before the release of Halo Infinite, virtually everyone was pumped and excited about the game, based solely off of 343’s marketing, then the beta released and still almost everyone remained supportive, and 343 made it clear it was a beta and that the final release would be more flush with content and bugs would be fixed.

Well season one released and it did so in the same condition as the beta, no new content, problems with the game not dealt with, but still people stayed relatively positive, because once again 343 assured people season 2 would be different … should I continue?
We all know the story, because it’s still playing out.

So Boo-hoo, some people are expressing opinions, being critical, and distrustful of 343 and of the way they deliberately misled people about this game, and continue to do so, and you are upset because it’s not what you want them to say or feel.

Yes, sometimes people can go over the line when being critical of a product and the people who have made the product, especially when being ripped off, but all criticism is not, by default, toxic.

343 has knowingly lied, deceived, and manipulated people for profit, this is not up for debate, it’s a text-book for profit scheme, If you don’t understand what they have done and continue to do, then you are the perfect victim, you could be considered the problem, and not the people shedding light on 343’s miss-deeds. That’s my opinion, I will now stand back and wait for your melt-down.

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This is the bit I agree with.

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The thing that got me was the content creators creating nothing but negative content and then complaining that nobody wants to watch their content.

There are obviously valid complaints, and I get that content creators rely on the game to make a living (I rely on my employer to make a living).

There are some creators who I’ve only ever seen post negative things - maybe they posted postivie things before and maybe they will again - I don’t know but I won’t find out.

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Lol wth do you mean no…? That’s literally what you just said

And yes you’re right, that is your opinion. It’s also many peoples opinions that when you run an extremely successful franchise into the ground, you should be held accountable. So chill with the telling people to either wait or stop “harassing” 343. I’m pretty sure if I sucked at my job for 10 years I would have been replaced a long time ago.

343 couldn’t even get MCC right for 5 years. MCC is LITERALLY a game composed of games they didn’t even create (besides h4) that were extremely successful, and they somehow still managed to F that up. Embarrassing :joy:

Also I think everyone is well aware that bungie is a shell of what they used to be, most of the original team isn’t even there anymore but clearly that’s not what I was talking about. I was talking about the bungie team who created halo.

Negative feedback is very necessary and warranted with 343’s track record. If you are content with mediocrity then that is what you’ll always get, because the company has no incentive to do better if people are already satisfied. I get it, its 2022 and everyone in this world now lives in their safe spaces and are not capable of receiving criticism because it hurts their feelings, but asking for people who are in charge of the decisions to be replaced with someone who will make better decisions isn’t harassment, it’s just wanting what is best for the franchise. But I doubt that’ll never happen, executives in large corporations seem to always get away with incompetence because of corporate politics and the blame trickles down :man_shrugging:

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You could always sign up yourself.

If you have any talents that could push things along faster that is.

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Honestly, I’m thankful that the majority of the community don’t see it this way. Infinite is a product with barebones content, with a very slow production line of things to keep it interesting. It has fundamental software glitches, bugs, crashes. Theatre doesn’t work. Customs don’t work. Connectivity is poor. Social features are nowhere in sight. Live service is still not kicking in to gear, a year after release.

Sure, there is a lot of good they did in this game, but blindly applauding like seals is even worse than being constantly negative.

Objectively this game has been the most broken at launch. Theatre broken, BTB broken, customs broken, desync, bugs, the list goes on.

Objectively this game has had less content at launch than old bungie titles. No forge, no co-op, no theatre (it doesn’t work), the list goes on.

Objectively this game has had significantly less post launch support than halo 3. Two new maps to date vs at least 7 in h3.

Sure, the more subjective stuff like matchmaking, and weapon balance and so on, that is a preference thing.

But giving feedback on a weak product, after the longest development cycle in halo history, is entirely warranted.

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