I know the Infinity is big, but if you look on the mission with the mammoth on the Inifinty (near the end of the mission, where you have to mark the gravity cone for the Infinity-missile) …
You can see there very very small covenant cruisers in front of the Infinity. (To bad I dont have a pic.)
So is the Infinity that big?
Or are these ships realy so small?
(I know it could be a grafic thing but …) why are they so small, then?
Can they be decoys of the Covenant? Or decoys of the Infinity?
… like something that is used against the Covenant?
(Some kind of decoy flares to lure hostile transports and kill them :p)
What you think?
(If you don’t belive me … look on the Infinity (best with zoom) just before you attack the gravity building with the target designater.
There are some cruisers only a few hundred meters long, about an 1/18 the size of Infinity. Could it be those?
If not, likely just smaller, outdated ships the Storm Covenant have gathered.
Those are Covenant light cruisers, 300 meters long, thats why they are so small compared to Infinity. Canonically Infinity is more than 15 times longer than a Covie light cruiser. Hope that helps =)
infinity is 3 miles long which makes it longer than most covenant ships.
The cruiser you witnessed was a CRS-class Light Cruiser. They are 300 meters (984 feet) in length, whereas the Infinity is 5,694 meters (18,682 feet) in length.
The Infinity rivals in size to the Covenant CAS-class Assault Carrier, but is 6 times smaller than the CSO-class Super Carrier.
The infinity is bigger than the playable length of forge island.
> The cruiser you witnessed was a CRS-class Light Cruiser. They are 300 meters (984 feet) in length, whereas the Infinity is 5,694 meters (18,682 feet) in length.
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> The Infinity rivals in size to the Covenant CAS-class Assault Carrier, but is 6 times smaller than the CSO-class Super Carrier.
Yeah, but it looks there like you can line up 50-70 (and not only 18) of those small cruisers in a row to get the length of the Infinity.
To compare them with the Phantoms in the mission before (where the Infinity crashlanded at the start) … even these Phantoms look a bit bigger than the micro cruisers near the gravity cone (floating directly in front of the Infinity on its larboard side).
Anyone checked it out? To bad I don’t have a pic or found a video …
Here’s a picture.
They’re just CRS-class light cruisers, as was said before. Here’s a comparison between the two, the ones on the level just look smaller in comparison because of the angle we are seeing Infinity at.
> Here’s a picture.
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> They’re just CRS-class light cruisers, as was said before. Here’s a comparison between the two, the ones on the level just look smaller in comparison because of the angle we are seeing Infinity at.
Thx. Now Iam happy again. 
> > Here’s a picture.
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> > They’re just CRS-class light cruisers, as was said before. Here’s a comparison between the two, the ones on the level just look smaller in comparison because of the angle we are seeing Infinity at.
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> Thx. Now Iam happy again.
Actually I think this is a bit of a minor bug on 343’s part. There is a notable size difference between the CRS in the screenshot and silhouette image. The screenshot shows the ship to be way smaller.
I noticed this myself back before release in one of the screenshots. I had thought that it was a different Forerunner ship in the background instead of Infinity because of the obvious disparity in size between the two.
In short, I just think that a scale modifier was touched on accident and the cruiser was shrunk in size.
Think back to the first mission where you are trying to launch a missile from FuD to hit one of the cruisers. I’m pretty sure they were the same class of ship and some were probably as far back as the distance to Infinity as shown in the screenshot.
Taking that into account, now does the size seem right for that ship? Doesn’t to me.
> Actually I think this is a bit of a minor bug on 343’s part. There is a notable size difference between the CRS in the screenshot and silhouette image. The screenshot shows the ship to be way smaller.
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> I noticed this myself back before release in one of the screenshots. I had thought that it was a different Forerunner ship in the background instead of Infinity because of the obvious disparity in size between the two.
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> In short, I just think that a scale modifier was touched on accident and the cruiser was shrunk in size.
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> Think back to the first mission where you are trying to launch a missile from FuD to hit one of the cruisers. I’m pretty sure they were the same class of ship and some were probably as far back as the distance to Infinity as shown in the screenshot.
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> Taking that into account, now does the size seem right for that ship? Doesn’t to me.
While they are smaller than they should be, it’s most likely to make Infinity seem bigger. A similar trick has been done before in other shows/games.
I think the ship at the end of Reclaimer was just a mistake, as it would only be about 100m at most, which is about 1/3 the smallest Covenant ships I THINK.
> > Actually I think this is a bit of a minor bug on 343’s part. There is a notable size difference between the CRS in the screenshot and silhouette image. The screenshot shows the ship to be way smaller.
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> > I noticed this myself back before release in one of the screenshots. I had thought that it was a different Forerunner ship in the background instead of Infinity because of the obvious disparity in size between the two.
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> > In short, I just think that a scale modifier was touched on accident and the cruiser was shrunk in size.
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> > Think back to the first mission where you are trying to launch a missile from FuD to hit one of the cruisers. I’m pretty sure they were the same class of ship and some were probably as far back as the distance to Infinity as shown in the screenshot.
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> > Taking that into account, now does the size seem right for that ship? Doesn’t to me.
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> While they are smaller than they should be, it’s most likely to make Infinity seem bigger. A similar trick has been done before in other shows/games.
Possibly. What doesn’t make sense about that though is that there is a good percentage of the vocal community that absolutely hates inconsistencies. I can’t see 343 purposely going out of their way to create one.
What makes even less sense to me is how in the world did that ship get so close to Infinity without being disintegrated?
Mind. Blown. lol
This raises another question…
Where did all these CRS Light Cruisers come from, and why would the Covenant bother building a vessel smaller than a human Frigate in the first place?
> This raises another question…
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> Where did all these CRS Light Cruisers come from, and why would the Covenant bother building a vessel smaller than a human Frigate in the first place?
Iam not a Halo-Lore expert. But if they have ressources for one big or three smaller ships. And they decide to build the 3 smaller ones: It has some advantages, too: mobility - you can go to more places than one. You can hide better. If you lose one you still have 2 left. (And so on … the standard thoughts).
Otherwise everyone would only have ONE big ship. Also after the Main-Covenant lost the war in H3 > I guess Storm planes now with this other advantages. They are now in the inferior situations.
But on the other side: maybe Storm doesn’t plan to fight (only) against the humans - mainly. Maybe they have some other enemys - or just want to avoid combats until they have found ppl like the didact.
So its only a new tactic.
> This raises another question…
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> Where did all these CRS Light Cruisers come from, and why would the Covenant bother building a vessel smaller than a human Frigate in the first place?
These small cruisers have been a part of Halo as far back as the First Strike novel which mentioned a 300m long Covenant cruiser. Codifying it among the other cruiser types is something we put into the Halo Essential Visual Guide.
Asking why the Covenant would create a cruiser smaller than a UNSC frigate is presupposing that the Covenant didn’t already have this ship type in their fleets before they encountered humanity.
I had made a modification to one of my HBO article graphics to illustrate the size of the CCS cruiser to this new smaller one:
http://msfm.seryan.com/specialpics/CovCruiser-Decks-modified.jpg
Its just a rendering issue, 343 decided to focus on the actually quality of rendered objects from a distance to make them seem pretty by downsizing it, much like the Halo from the POA in Halo CE where it is actually a small rendered Halo to make it seem big when standing still. Also the Covenant cruisers in SpOps where fireteam shadow destroys it, is small to the naked eye but is meant to be seen as if it were really high up.
I hope 343i allows for better 2d3d rendering for halo 5 on the new durango because it was a small sting at the back of my head when huge objects are downsized and the player needs to “imagine” it being very far away and colossal.
Yeah, that’d be me :), but the image I posted above is better to distinguish the size difference between the CCS- and CRS-classes. The image above was made to show the deck count.
