i just don't understand your logic...

Games Other Halo
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perfect dark had way more content than these current games and they weren’t charging you another penny for more content. and this is coming from a n64 game.

so explain to me how you’re willing to shell out $60 for a full game, then another $25 for map pass, then another $X amount for the next spartan ops season pass, then $x amount for other dlc’s.

additional contents for a full game shouldn’t costs more than $10. i’m just saying…

i played more perfect dark than all my halo games combine. now that’s saying something.

don’t forget goldeneye either.

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Gamestop lists new Halo 4 at 39.99 and used Halo 4 at 59.99.

Silly billies

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Because 343 and Microsoft know that most everybody playing Halo anymore is a bunch of smucks with their moms credit card.

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They just want more money, that is all the cause they need.

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Kids with no sense of balance or what makes a good game jump on the bandwagon then they buy tons of -Yoink- because everyone else is buying tons of -Yoink- or because they are too stupid to realize they are getting ripped off.

And yet, DLC isn’t going to go away anytime soon unless people do something about it, which they won’t.

Modern gaming sucks.

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Perfect Dark required the expansion pak to do pretty much anything worthwhile in the game, including the single player campaign.

Yet they still sold it as if it wasn’t essential to the game. “expansion pak required for maximum gameplay” was on the front of the box.

So yeah, I think you get a lot more bang for your buck with Halo 4 than with Perfect Dark.

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Gaming is filled with a bunch of under achieving children who dont understand the value of money nor quality of product. On top of that, the parents will buy them anything as long as it keeps them quiet, and keeps them from having to spend time with their children. This is also a big reason why games have gone away from competitive ranking and instead implemented experience(who has more time to play) ranking.

I dont know how many of you guys here had a PS2, and Played the original Socom games, but Halo is taking the same path as that series, and that series is dead now. The worst part about it, is that the original socom and halo came out now far from each other and 10 years later they are both a shell of their former self.

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> Perfect Dark required the expansion pak to do pretty much anything worthwhile in the game, including the single player campaign.
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> Yet they still sold it as if it wasn’t essential to the game. “expansion pak required for maximum gameplay” was on the front of the box.
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> So yeah, I think you get a lot more bang for your buck with Halo 4 than with Perfect Dark.

the expansion pak was more bang for the buck because it’s universal. it improved most games and would be require for better overall performance, not just one.

so you’re wrong. try again.

EDIT: i had the word “universal” colored orange to show you how it was implemented. i don’t have to explain it. go look it up yourselves if you want to learn something. it gave the n64 a boost.

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-Yoink!- has recieved the last of my $$ besides Gold Membership annual fee.

SCREW getting SCREWED w/these trivial promotions and botched DLC delivery.

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> Kids with no sense of balance or what makes a good game jump on the bandwagon then they buy tons of Yoink! because everyone else is buying tons of Yoink! or because they are too stupid to realize they are getting ripped off.
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> <mark>And yet, DLC isn’t going to go away anytime soon unless people do something about it, which they won’t.</mark>
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> Modern gaming sucks.

sadly true

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> the expansion pak was more bang for the buck because it’s universal. it improved most games and would be require for better overall performance, not just one.
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> so you’re wrong. try again.
>
> EDIT: i had the word “universal” colored orange to show you how it was implemented. i don’t have to explain it. go look it up yourselves if you want to learn something. it gave the n64 a boost.

I’m sure most people will see it your way.

Not going to try again. You asked for an explanation and I gave it to you. That is how conversations work. You don’t see real ones very often on the internet but I have used them frequently in face to face scenarios to build a better life. The give and take of a real conversation can even lead to learning things, but you have to shy away from the caveman “I’m always right” mentality. Otherwise no one will want to speak to you.

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Cause we aren’t cheap.

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I wonder if MS thinks Sony and Nintendo are stupid for still offering free online play

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> Kids with no sense of balance or what makes a good game jump on the bandwagon then they buy tons of Yoink! because everyone else is buying tons of Yoink! or because they are too stupid to realize they are getting ripped off.
>
> And yet, DLC isn’t going to go away anytime soon unless people do something about it, which they won’t.
>
> Modern gaming sucks.

You should probably get off your xbox because I heard of this new thing that Microsoft is charging you money to play games online… on the xbox!! that’s exactly what you’re talking about and it’s ridiculous.

Now would you rather support Microsoft once a month to be able to play anything online or be able to play anything and only supporting Halo when 343 release something extra that you want?

Seems to me like the most logical here would be to get people to remove xbox live gold since that’s something most people in every xbox community would want instead of removing the DLC of one single game.

I myself don’t mind paying for any of them since I seriously don’t care about it but if it’s so important to you not to get ripped off I suggest you start with xbox live gold memberships since that’s way worse than paying for DLC if you want it and not to if you don’t want it.

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> perfect dark had way more content than these current games and they weren’t charging you another penny for more content. and this is coming from a n64 game.
>
> so explain to me how you’re willing to shell out $60 for a full game, then another $25 for map pass, then another $X amount for the next spartan ops season pass, then $x amount for other dlc’s.
>
> additional contents for a full game shouldn’t costs more than $10. i’m just saying…
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> i played more perfect dark than all my halo games combine. now that’s saying something.
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> don’t forget goldeneye either.

they charge that much, because people will pay that much.
most smartphone apps don’t cost more that a couple dollars, because people would just not buy an app if it was too much money.
but people who use consoles will pay over $100 to get a game and all of the DLC.

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Welcome to the modern gaming industry. It only gets worse from here. And this is by no means exclusive to Halo 4. Oh no. Expect to see even more blatant division of game content into individually priced packets that could’ve easily been lumped into one as video gaming continues to grow in popularity. There’s no such thing as an undivided gaming experience anymore and there never will be again.

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> > the expansion pak was more bang for the buck because it’s universal. it improved most games and would be require for better overall performance, not just one.
> >
> > so you’re wrong. try again.
> >
> > EDIT: i had the word “universal” colored orange to show you how it was implemented. i don’t have to explain it. go look it up yourselves if you want to learn something. it gave the n64 a boost.
>
> I’m sure most people will see it your way.
>
> Not going to try again. You asked for an explanation and I gave it to you. That is how conversations work. You don’t see real ones very often on the internet but I have used them frequently in face to face scenarios to build a better life. <mark>The give and take of a real conversation can even lead to learning things, but you have to shy away from the caveman “I’m always right” mentality. Otherwise no one will want to speak to you</mark>.

you are correct, i also don’t understand how people can think that they’re always right. though i don’t need to explain to you how a conversation works, nor do you need to explain it to me. that was very demeaning of you. if that’s how you treat others, then maybe that’s how i should treat you. since we’re talking about kindergarten basics, here’s your first lesson: treat others the way you want to be treated.

anyways, you need to get your logic in order. you mentioned the expansion pak, yet did you not know that the expansion pak is pretty much required to play more hardcore games on the n64? you made it sound as if perfect dark was the only game that required it, when the purpose of the expansion pak was pretty much required for most games. btw, i bought the expansion pak before perfect dark so it came in handy after all. it wasn’t the other way around.

buying the expansion pak increased the overall gameplay for most games, while halo 4 dlc’s only works for halo 4. i don’t know why i have to explain these simple things to you.

here’s a more simple way for you to understand:
expansion pak = you can play donkey kong 64, the legend of zelda, resident evil 2, perfect dark, etc. it wasn’t that you needed it to play the game, it just gave you more details in-game and more options. i even tested perfect dark without the expansion pak and it played just fine.

your logic- halo 4 more bang for the buck:
halo 4 $60, map pass $25, future dlc $X. more bang for the buck? -_- don’t make me laugh…

expansion pak benefits more than just one game. quit being so stubborn and look at the facts.

come back when you’re ready. if you don’t, we all know why.

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> -Yoink!- has recieved the last of my $$ besides Gold Membership annual fee.
>
> SCREW getting SCREWED w/these trivial promotions and botched DLC delivery.

Added to my list to check when Halo 5 comes out.

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if you guys do plan to get gold membership, the best way is either ebay or holiday sales. ebay were selling 12 months gold for $37 occasionally. games n go were giving out free 3 months gold if you bought any xbox 360 accessory (it didn’t matter if you spent $3 or $30). this was how i recieved two 3 months of gold; bought 2 xbox 360 play n charge kit for $15 each and recieved 2 3months of gold. if it wasn’t for these sales, i would never get gold.

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Again, as I stated before…

I’m sure most people will see it your way.

I didn’t say you were wrong. Its your opinion, not mine to argue.

Remember that conversation thing I said in my previous post? This is exactly what I was talking about. You asked for my explanation and that is what I gave you, nothing more. I wasn’t even arguing with you in my post, and I’m not now.