ok first off i know im like a skipping record to 343 cause i have seen it all over the new many way the ranking system what is the deal for getting the placement rank after the first 10 games in swat i had a over all 7.6 KDA and got bronze 1 and my buddy got a KDA of -0.6 and got gold 1.
i mean what happened to the old reach ranking system they need to bring that back where u dont get penalized for the rest of the team not being able to do as well as u i mean i know not ever one has the same skill level and i get this but that dont mean i and others on my team that did well should not be demoted or punished for others.
i and my friend have to get the rank we worked hard for already again to get it back its just really frustrating and honestly a little discouraging and makes some just not wanna play the game. i mean i get that 343 is trying to encourage people to work together as a team and or unit but u can work as a time with people who dont have or use there headsets to communicate with others and some people just dont like work with others.
so my point being in this post why we the people that are trying to work for a good rank have to suffer and or be punished for others and how is the ranking system done exotically for the 10 game ranking cause im guessing KDA dont have a thing to do with it or win/loss or K/D idk its just never been covered in depth i mean i know after u get the rank its winning and losing that effect it.
and on more thing how long to the ban infringements stay are they like for ever and keep building up over time can i might leave a match or 2 a month cause of disconnection or i have to leave for other things that randomly come up and i just wanna know if they eventually go away
The ranking should be individual. Not team based.
It negatively impacts individuals and teams.
Example - You play in a team and win but you always finished last in yourteam and still rank Platinum.
Then your team isn’t available so you play solo.
Because your team carried you through ranking you now can’t compete solo because you are probably a Silver or Gold. If it had of been based on individual performance you would have a better idea of what your real rank is.
On the opposite side if I always play solo and am first or second each match but my random team is rubbish I am demoted and playing in ranks that individually I am better than.
I don’t see how team ranking benefits either scenario. It’s likely why many games you have one player with 20+ kills and the rest struggling along. Obviously they ranked lower than they should have, likely because they played Solo with random teams. You see people with 20+ kills 4 deaths all the time.
Personally last night I won a few matches finishing last in my random team and went from Silver to Gold. I don’t feel I should have because I was last and didn’t really contribute,
In summary yes I think the system is flawed.
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me and my friends play A LOT of swat i am normally running between 18-25 kills with like 2-10 deaths so i normally am with in the top 2 while others dont even hit the double digits except in deaths witch i dont care about there score just mine. cause it makes me feel like im not playing well and according to the sheets i am top 2
i honestly feel like 343 just dont care about it at all and wont do anything about the ranking system to make it better
I won 10/10 for slayer with a 6.1 K/D/A against a good amount of diamonds and only got platinum 6 afterwards. The ranking system is abysmal 10/10 6.1 K/D/A
There is something about the qualifiers that seem off, atleast if you are to believe what players here say.
However, leaving that for another day. Ranks based on individual merits and Reach’s ranking system.
To shortly explain it. Reach’s system was scrapped in favour of W/L, and I do believe it happened even before CEA launched. Your skill rank benefits when you work against your own team as well.
I think it is based only on games that you win (disregarding how well you did when your team lose). On the skill level of the opposition you were playing and factoring where you were ranked last season. As in if you were in gold 5 previously but had a poor ranking run you will likely be placed silver 1 or 2, but a good run could see you in silver 5.
The system is a broken joke and I hate it! Bring back 1-50
We don’t know -Yoink- about how this sytem works. Bringing back 1-50 won’t change the brokenness just how it looks. You are talking about the TrueSkill system, which was abandoned before reach because it didn’t rank teams well on an individual basis, players who helped the team but didn’t finish fights were ranked lower than they’re team mates, even though everyone was involved in the fight.
Watching Vetoed’s Cruise Control To Champion series on youtube. With a brand new account he won nine 1sts and one 2nd with something like a 17.5 KDA. He beat Onyxes and a Champion and got DIAMOND 6. He’s been #1 Champion and got a Diamond 6 placement! WTF? I know the system had no previous seasons to factor in, but if that’s not broken then the world’s flat. And from the threads here it seems like it’s getting worse. It’s like they lopped off the top two tiers of rank for placements and everyone is distributed among what’s left. So everyone places at least one whole tier below****where the system believes they will be after another month of “work your way up the ranks”. Furthermore, it seems the higher your SR the more the placement system favors keeping you at or below your past tier even though there should be an ebb and flow of skill level, as well as players joining and leaving the community. And the MM system runs off of the rank system. That’s why some of the matches seem so lopsided. So then we get more quitting and smurfing. A pretty hefty amount of the criticism of quitters and smurfers should really be aimed at the MM system’s unfairness.
So on the one hand we have 343 bumping the bell curve a couple notches to the left. Then when the population starts to thin it’s mostly the less skilled players who drop out. Successful Onyx and Champ players keep playing. So when Bronzes and Silvers quit guess what happens to the Golds and Plats? The bell curve gets bumped another notch or two to the left. I still love Halo, but it could be so much better with a few issues improved.
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> Watching Vetoed’s Cruise Control To Champion series on youtube. With a brand new account he won nine 1sts and one 2nd with something like a 17.5 KDA. He beat Onyxes and a Champion and got DIAMOND 6. He’s been #1 Champion and got a Diamond 6 placement! WTF? I know the system had no previous seasons to factor in, but if that’s not broken then the world’s flat. And from the threads here it seems like it’s getting worse. It’s like they lopped off the top two tiers of rank for placements and everyone is distributed among what’s left. So everyone places at least one whole tier below****where the system believes they will be after another month of “work your way up the ranks”. Furthermore, it seems the higher your SR the more the placement system favors keeping you at or below your past tier even though there should be an ebb and flow of skill level, as well as players joining and leaving the community. And the MM system runs off of the rank system. That’s why some of the matches seem so lopsided. So then we get more quitting and smurfing. A pretty hefty amount of the criticism of quitters and smurfers should really be aimed at the MM system’s unfairness.
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> So on the one hand we have 343 bumping the bell curve a couple notches to the left. Then when the population starts to thin it’s mostly the less skilled players who drop out. Successful Onyx and Champ players keep playing. So when Bronzes and Silvers quit guess what happens to the Golds and Plats? The bell curve gets bumped another notch or two to the left. I still love Halo, but it could be so much better with a few issues improved.
Exavtly this. I always get bumped 600 or so csr down on my previous season end csr for my placement rank. Its so consistent that it seems to be deliberate. Then even weirder, the system boosts me up for 5th place in ffa like nobodys business. Its like the system places you low on purpose but will then rank you up straight afterwards at the speed of light for not finishing last. Its like 343 have decided to gradually give us our true rank over 50 games or so, regardless of how well we do in those 50 games, rather than giving it to us at 10. I could get placed plat 6 and go to onyx in 40ish games placing 4th, 5th and 6th the entire time until we seemingly reach the csr score we should have got in placement. Its like the game has worked out our true mmr but wont let our visible csr show this for ages until long after placing. Pesumably this would be to keep us playing to keep the ffa population higher than it would be if our csr rankibgs were accurate after 10 and then people stopped playing cos they already got to the rank.they wanted. All conjecture, but i seriously feel that a lot of evidence points to this
Well I for one am hoping to derank again next time as last season it was impossible to compete when none of my shots registered. I did just enough losing to attain a rank and stopped playing. Hopefully I will have dropped down to bronze and compensate for my lag disadvantage
Raging Panda Gamers
i dont know i just feel 343 need to at least try something different with the ranking system because its just broken so badly and not just ignore this problem as if it never existed
