I Hope Halo 4 is halo to the core...

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I hope Halo 4 is halo to the core, what do i mean by this?

Details
I want to see more influence from the novels in gameplay/ the campaign. The novels talk of the gore of battle. In halo thus far the most we ever see is a blood spurt. If someone is 0 shields and gets hit in the arm with a sniper maybe just the arm should come off leaving the player unable to throw grenades and make reload take 2x as long.

maybe just voiding gameplay changes, halo needs to be as graphic as halo is in the novels. A direct Rocket to the chest should send body parts-a-flying, Ar to a sheildless face should leave the visor cracked at death etc etc. Lets just say people call halo kiddie or cartoonish for a reason

Gameplay
Halo 1-3 were massive successes, the simple intuitive gameplay was loved by many. It should return as default Team Slayer from day 1. As should Snipers, Swat, doubles, objective, and BTB

Reachs legacy
As much of a fan I am of 1-3 game-play, reach is still enjoyable and many have come to like AAs.

As an olive branch to reach fans and as another way to mix up game-play in the halo experience An AA slayer play-list should be there from day 1 as well.

H4 innovations

Whatever they add in H4 is fine by me, but a classic halo experience should be provided from day 1. No waiting a year just to play what many would define as “Halo”.

Complaint prevention
I and many other besieged B.net and waypoint with our complaints about bloom, AAs, aim and move acceleration etc etc

I personally want to talk nothing but love about halo and not be gripeing about this and that feature. The easiest way around this is to allow weapons to be customized in game options and while in game pushing start (like reach campaign) and getting all the info on the gun and the settings its under. Allowing people to control EX BR/mag/DMR - bloom, ROF, spread, damage, headshot capability, and weapon switch times will help keep detractors at bay and allow everyoen to play halo how they want to in custom games, all without requiring a TU.

1-50 Ranks
Some love them others dont. They were here for H2, and H3 and most would agree they are apart of what makes halo unique from mindless games like COD. They clearly should return, I dare say in every playlist simply cuz it makes people more likely to actually play the game. Objective after all should be about the objective not padding stats. If you want to relax or drive around in a mongoose do it at level 1-10 or in a customgame.

deranking, boosting etc can all be adjusted for in the future but thats a diff conversation

Overall I just want to see Halo reflect graphic nature of the halo novels, for classic gameplay to be the bread and butter, for H4 innovations to get their own list, and HR AAs to return in their own playlist as well. 1-50 is part of what makes halo unique from other FPS and custom game weapon trait modifications will allow fans to play as they like making all happy.

Thanks for reading!

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I agree with most of what you say, but I would like to see both 1-50 and the credit system return, credit system for customization and other non-skill based features.

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I really don’t want to see limbs come off. I play halo for fun and while halo 1 levels of blood are fine, (reach really didn’t have much at all) limbs are just unnecessary. Its actually one of the reasons i don’t play GOW, because its really an annoying amount of it.
Im fine with getting a headshot and there being blood on the ground behind him (more than reach, i mean obviously) but limbs missing is just overkill.

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I agree with most of all you have just said accept the following

  1. The Reach Legacy should die. Bungie did a fine job of self destructing itself with ODST and Reach. Both had decent campaigns, but strayed for the story of John 117. Which if you think about it, we haven’t had any story line with the Master Chief for literally 5 years (2007). I might also add that Bungie literally tried to kill off one of there best characters which was the master chief, until you finished Halo 3 on legendary. Which was a relief when we all found out that he was still alive.

  2. Matchmaking (The real term for online competition) should stick to Halo 1-3 and expand off of a already detailed multiplayer instead of taking ideas from other games such as Call Of Duty (Which is a game that needs to die by it self) Most games are still taking ideas from the overly polished franchise that seems to literally grasp the nut sack of gamers and make them play a flat-lined thinking game. What 343 needs to start off with when making Halo 4 when coming to matchmaking is number 1. bring back to the BR and SMG number 2 bring back armor customization through achievements alone and NOT THROUGH CREDIT FARMING, Number 3 come up with clever matchmaking game variants, number 4 making forging similar to reach, but with the beautiful structures from H3, Number 5. Trashcan Armor Abilities (they are not needed) and along with that bring back high jumping (your a spartan for crying out loud why should bound by the rules of gravity, Number 6 , make the game MLG compatible. I’ve watched gameplay of the Halo Reach MLG and Halo 3 MLG and halo 3 is much more skill based. Like i said ive watched Halo Reach pro players, and yeah they are good and probably can beat me but to be honest i feel like i can actually stand a chance. All you need in Halo Reach is a well organized team and you will win most games you play online where as Halo 3 pro players I would lose horribly because they were wise and had to use the environment around them instead of depending on armor abilities which by the way SPRINT SHOULD NOT BE AN ARMOR ABILITY BECAUSE ALL HUMANS CAN SPRINT IN REAL LIFE. So it should be embedded in the game naturally. And lastely number 7. They should bring Halo 4 to pc. For crying out loud all PC gamers have to play as far as FPS Halo games is halo 1 and 2 which it has been 6 years since Halo 2 came out to PC.

Ending on this note i do agree that Halo 4 should have more gore, but if you are shot in the arm with a sniper lets be real and say you would just die. Its too complecated to embed that into a game. Maybe in the next generation of gaming but i dont think it will be soon…And finally i will finish with this by saying GET RID OF HEALTH PACKS AND THE HEALTH SYTEM AND STICK TO SHIELD AND DEATH …BOOM problem solved.

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Halo 4 NEEDS 1-50 ranks. Absolutely needs it.

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> Halo 4 NEEDS 1-50 ranks. Absolutely needs it.

NO!!!

The 1-50 system is a failed system.
While it is an appealing system it is one with many flaws.
The arena system is a lot better, the problem is that it’s used in 1 playlist that isn’t even set as competitive as it could be (MLG is still no playlist, jetpack is still in the Arena loadout, still no classic Arena etc etc) but the system it self is near flawless right now.

The only thing they need to do to improve is to use a mix of KD and WL.
Camping is done either way but thanks to this at least you get team mates who are actually good / around your skill level rather then ones who boosted their account (Halo 3) or where carried nearly every game they won (Halo Reach).
The H3 system made a black market that was pretty ridiculous please do not make it return and think logical.
The 1-50 system is a terrible system.

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> > Halo 4 NEEDS 1-50 ranks. Absolutely needs it.
>
> NO!!!
>
> The 1-50 system is a failed system.
> While it is an appealing system it is one with many flaws.
> The arena system is a lot better, the problem is that it’s used in 1 playlist that isn’t even set as competitive as it could be (MLG is still no playlist, jetpack is still in the Arena loadout, still no classic Arena etc etc) but the system it self is near flawless right now.
>
> The only thing they need to do to improve is to use a mix of KD and WL.
> Camping is done either way but thanks to this at least you get team mates who are actually good / around your skill level rather then ones who boosted their account (Halo 3) or where carried nearly every game they won (Halo Reach).
> The H3 system made a black market that was pretty ridiculous please do not make it return and think logical.
> The 1-50 system is a terrible system.

IMO it’s the other way around. With the arena the ranking system promotes selfish gameplay and many people don’t really care for there team or the win and they just care about themselves, where as the 1-50 system encourages teamwork because you need to work together with your team to rank up.

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I agree with some of your points, but they should expand gameplay if anything, because if its anything like the original, i should get my old dinosaur toys from the attic and start going back to school. 10 years is a very long time.

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Agreed, the game needs to play like Halo in order for it to be a success in my eyes.

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> > > Halo 4 NEEDS 1-50 ranks. Absolutely needs it.
> >
> > NO!!!
> >
> > The 1-50 system is a failed system.
> > While it is an appealing system it is one with many flaws.
> > The arena system is a lot better, the problem is that it’s used in 1 playlist that isn’t even set as competitive as it could be (MLG is still no playlist, jetpack is still in the Arena loadout, still no classic Arena etc etc) but the system it self is near flawless right now.
> >
> > The only thing they need to do to improve is to use a mix of KD and WL.
> > Camping is done either way but thanks to this at least you get team mates who are actually good / around your skill level rather then ones who boosted their account (Halo 3) or where carried nearly every game they won (Halo Reach).
> > The H3 system made a black market that was pretty ridiculous please do not make it return and think logical.
> > The 1-50 system is a terrible system.
>
> IMO it’s the other way around. With the arena the ranking system promotes selfish gameplay and many people don’t really care for there team or the win and they just care about themselves, where as the 1-50 system encourages teamwork because you need to work together with your team to rank up.

Arena is WL…
Not KD…
I wan’t a combo because I have to carry around noobs from time to time simply because their trueskill( also wl) is “the same” as mine.
Still these guys rank up even tough I do all the damn work, same goes for Halo 3 except in Halo 3 you had boosting, double accounts, accounts selling etc etc etc.

The 1-50 system is and stays a huge fail.

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1-50 as we know it in Halo 3 is unacceptable. It had two BAD flaws.

  1. Rank locks. I don’t care what people say about ‘skill ceiling’, and I don’t know if H3’s trueskill acknowledged this, but regardless…there were rank locks. A person MAY be at a certain rank for a long time before getting out of it and becoming better, but the fact is people eventually get better if they keep at it. Rank locks suck.

  2. Second/third/to the umpteenth accounters: For many reasons (one being rank lock) people made multiple accounts to get to 50, the people they step on to get up to 50 get destroyed because most of those people are legitly at their rank. Or you had people who SOLD 50s, or the ones who did it just for fun, etc…

4’s ranking system should be based around Reach’s Arena system. I think that W/L and individual rating priority for ranking should be split 50% 50%. That way, winning is important, and so is doing well while you’re winning.

Also, I think the seasons for ranking should last 2 months. A split between the old 1 month seasons and the now current 3 month seasons.

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> 1-50 as we know it in Halo 3 is unacceptable. It had two BAD flaws.
>
> 1. Rank locks. I don’t care what people say about ‘skill ceiling’, and I don’t know if H3’s trueskill acknowledged this, but regardless…there were rank locks. A person MAY be at a certain rank for a long time before getting out of it and becoming better, but the fact is people eventually get better if they keep at it. Rank locks suck.
>
> 2. Second/third/to the umpteenth accounters: For many reasons (one being rank lock) people made multiple accounts to get to 50, the people they step on to get up to 50 get destroyed because most of those people are legitly at their rank. Or you had people who SOLD 50s, or the ones who did it just for fun, etc…

This guy knows what’s up.

Honestly, my solution, which I’ve posted before, is for players to commit to teams, and only be rated AS A TEAM, but otherwise use the general W/L Arena formula. Placement matches and then more fluid rank movement.

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Saying Halo 4 should be “Halo to the core” and suggesting to have an AA playlist implemented from day one is a complete paradox.

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I completely agree. Halo 3 was by far the best Halo game, and IMO best game ever, in every way including gameplay. That doesn’t mean I hate Reach, it’s my favourite game besides other Halo games and like the fact that it’s different, but not as a main Halo game.

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> > > > Halo 4 NEEDS 1-50 ranks. Absolutely needs it.
> > >
> > > NO!!!
> > >
> > > The 1-50 system is a failed system.
> > > While it is an appealing system it is one with many flaws.
> > > The arena system is a lot better, the problem is that it’s used in 1 playlist that isn’t even set as competitive as it could be (MLG is still no playlist, jetpack is still in the Arena loadout, still no classic Arena etc etc) but the system it self is near flawless right now.
> > >
> > > The only thing they need to do to improve is to use a mix of KD and WL.
> > > Camping is done either way but thanks to this at least you get team mates who are actually good / around your skill level rather then ones who boosted their account (Halo 3) or where carried nearly every game they won (Halo Reach).
> > > The H3 system made a black market that was pretty ridiculous please do not make it return and think logical.
> > > The 1-50 system is a terrible system.
> >
> > IMO it’s the other way around. With the arena the ranking system promotes selfish gameplay and many people don’t really care for there team or the win and they just care about themselves, where as the 1-50 system encourages teamwork because you need to work together with your team to rank up.
>
> Arena is WL…
> Not KD…
> I wan’t a combo because I have to carry around noobs from time to time simply because their trueskill( also wl) is “the same” as mine.
> Still these guys rank up even tough I do all the damn work, same goes for Halo 3 except in Halo 3 you had boosting, double accounts, accounts selling etc etc etc.
>
> The 1-50 system is and stays a huge fail.

They updated it to W/L?
Well if that’s the case then most of the problems I had with the arena are gone.

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> They updated it to W/L?
> Well if that’s the case then most of the problems I had with the arena are gone.

Yeah when I quit before that and the Zero Bloom change.

It sounds like 343 really has their ear to the ground unlike Bungie. Making games they like to play clearly isn’t a good approach and I’m glad they’re gone.

W/L is definitely better than the Arena system but it still has its own flaws that have to be addressed.

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> > They updated it to W/L?
> > Well if that’s the case then most of the problems I had with the arena are gone.
>
> Yeah when I quit before that and the Zero Bloom change.
>
> It sounds like 343 really has their ear to the ground unlike Bungie. Making games they like to play clearly isn’t a good approach and I’m glad they’re gone.
>
> W/L is definitely better than the Arena system but it still has its own flaws that have to be addressed.

Ya, apart from in the arena itself, your arena rank effects nothing else in the game.

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I agree, Halo should be Halo. And I agree with more book-game connections. However, not gore. Books are supposed to be more detailed, its what they can do. Games, aren’t supposed to be that gorey. Some games, it fits in perfectly. In Halo, I can’t see arms being shot off. How do you shoot the arm off of a Spartan anyway? (Not counting explosives) Spartan bones are made to whithstand a LOT. They are nearly indestructible. Also, they are encased in literally tons of armor. It wouldn’t break that easily. Halo doesn’t need any more gore than CE had. Im okay with Flood falling apart, but Spartans being de-limbed isn’t needed.