Ok, so Halo 4 has been out for almost a year, but I don’t like seeing it in the condition it is currently in. Since Halo 4 was released, it has been far more abused than praised. Plus, it doesn’t really help that most of the members of the Halo community are bashing the loyal fans of Halo 4 (including myself) who are trying to support the game we love. To me, it just doesn’t make sense that people are posting hateful comments about Halo 4 when they could be doing something more productive with their gaming career, like trying to reach level 50 in Halo 3.
Anyways, back on topic. I have stayed loyal to Halo 4 ever since it was released. I never went back to Halo 3 and I only played Halo: Reach once after Halo 4’s release. Halo 4 is my favorite Halo to date. I have never had major problems with it and don’t really understand why it is so hated. Now, I HAVE played all the Halos and I enjoyed every single one, but Halo 4 just happens to be my favorite. What’s so wrong about that? Another thing I don’t understand, is why the population is so low. It has dropped significantly since release and most of my friends have abandoned Halo 4. Yes, I understand that Halo 4 has problems, but I don’t think the problems are THAT bad. Maybe it’s just me, but I still have lots of fun playing Halo 4. I think it is a very addicting game even though I maxed out my rank two months after release. Also, most of my weapons are maxed out and I practically have nothing left to work for, yet I still play Halo 4. I don’t plan to stop playing either. Not until Halo 5 comes out anyways. So, yeah. It just makes me sad to see my favorite game suffering.
Is anyone else feeling the same way as me, or am I just an outcast? Regardless, I classify myself as a “Halo 4 Freelancer” so it doesn’t really bother me that much. However, it sure wouldn’t hurt to hear some positive things about Halo 4 for once.
On a side note, if anyone is down to play some Halo 4, let me know. I don’t mind playing by myself, but it would sure be nice to have some new friends that actually play Halo 4.
I know the feeling bro but what can you do? The halo fanbase has complained about each new release since CE, and It probably won’t change. We’re an unpleasable fanbase.
As for saying positive things to say about halo 4, IMO if it had a classic(non-sprint) playlist and better Spartan Ops support, It would be the best halo game.
> Ok, so Halo 4 has been out for almost a year, but I don’t like seeing it in the condition it is currently in. Since Halo 4 was released, it has been far more abused than praised. Plus, it doesn’t really help that most of the members of the Halo community are bashing the loyal fans of Halo 4 (including myself) who are trying to support the game we love. To me, it just doesn’t make sense that people are posting hateful comments about Halo 4 when they could be doing something more productive with their gaming career, like trying to reach level 50 in Halo 3.
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> Anyways, back on topic. I have stayed loyal to Halo 4 ever since it was released. I never went back to Halo 3 and I only played Halo: Reach once after Halo 4’s release. Halo 4 is my favorite Halo to date. I have never had major problems with it and don’t really understand why it is so hated. Now, I HAVE played all the Halos and I enjoyed every single one, but Halo 4 just happens to be my favorite. What’s so wrong about that? <mark>Another thing I don’t understand, is why the population is so low. It has dropped significantly since release and most of my friends have abandoned Halo 4.</mark> Yes, I understand that Halo 4 has problems, but I don’t think the problems are THAT bad. Maybe it’s just me, but I still have lots of fun playing Halo 4. I think it is a very addicting game even though I maxed out my rank two months after release. Also, most of my weapons are maxed out and I practically have nothing left to work for, yet I still play Halo 4. I don’t plan to stop playing either. Not until Halo 5 comes out anyways. So, yeah. It just makes me sad to see my favorite game suffering.
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> Is anyone else feeling the same way as me, or am I just an outcast? Regardless, I classify myself as a “Halo 4 Freelancer” so it doesn’t really bother me that much. However, it sure wouldn’t hurt to hear some positive things about Halo 4 for once.
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> On a side note, if anyone is down to play some Halo 4, let me know. I don’t mind playing by myself, but it would sure be nice to have some new friends that actually play Halo 4.
Simple, most people think that halo 3 and halo reach are better than halo 4.
Almost everything that 343 added to halo is bad in my opinion ( flinch, ordnance, personal loadouts, etc.). I bought halo 4 at launch because i had faith in 343 but i won’t make another mistake . I will just rent halo 5 for the campaign, because i don’t want to spend 100 $ to play a halo/cod hybrid.
Listen, if you like Halo 4 then that’s wonderful. People are not “bashing” you when they give negative feedback for the game you happen to like. They are simply voicing their opinions and hoping to create a different future for the franchise.
There’s no need to feel so offended or threatened by Halo 4 hate. I’m one of the biggest Halo 4 haters on here, but I would never “bash” you for liking the game and I can’t imagine many people would. I think that’s mostly your interpretation of people’s hate and taking it too personally.
Also, people don’t need to stop voicing their concerns about the game and play Halo 3. They can do both if they like; they can do one or the other, or they can do neither.
Are you any better than people who just happen to dislike the game and want to make their reasons known, when you are bashing them yourself?
You’ve just dedicated an entire thread to “bashing” those who don’t share your views. To me, that doesn’t seem fair.
I hate seeing H4 with sure a low population when if it was a better game/didnt go the road of reach we could have a really big big population and MM could be booming .
> Another thing I don’t understand, is why the population is so low. It has dropped significantly since release and most of my friends have abandoned Halo 4. Yes, I understand that Halo 4 has problems, but I don’t think the problems are THAT bad.
No no no no. It’s not that you don’t understand, it’s that you don’t want to understand why it is so low.
I could explain Halo 4 with a question of how much resources went into kill cam, a broken feature seen only the first few days of MM, and has not been fixed since.
But the problem is that you do not want to understand what those who doesn’t like Halo 4 are saying. So to me it’d be wasting time trying to explain why it’s low, when it’ll fall to deaf ears, or “blind eyes”.
OP, I have said this time and time again. A few disagree with me, but I wholeheartedly believe that the reason why Halo 4’s population dropped to such low numbers can be summarized by this: Halo 4 =/= Halo 3
The reason people left Halo 4 was because they didn’t want Halo 4; They wanted Halo 3 with updated graphics. The community is scared of change, so when any is implemented, they try the new feature for 5 minutes, declare that it sucks, and then cry about it. Keep in mind though, I’m talking about the people YOU’RE talking about. I’m not referencing the guys who just dislike Halo 4, but think of ways in which it could be better. I’m referencing those guys who hate Halo 4 with a passion and do everything short of boycotting it to ‘express their views.’
they(343) ruined the halo franchise for me. i was a loyal xbox supporter right up till the halo4 launch, i bought the most expensive game on the 360 to date with a halo sticker on the box and got a CoD/Halo hybrid still in beta.
even the new weapon sounds annoy me after a while, painfull to listen to with turtle beach headphones on.
i felt ripped off, since then i’ve let my live membership lapse and im moving ship to ps4 to follow Bungie. halo was the only reason i switched to xbox over 10 years ago.
i will try halo5 at a friends house and if its really back to its roots i’l buy an xbox one. if its anything like halo4 microsoft will have one less sale of a next gen console.
ps. i played Reach the other night for the first time in ages and loved every single minute of the story mode, halo4 i finished it once and that was it,shelved.
I have no problems with Halo 4. I love the game. The campaign was great (though the music could be better) The multiplayer plays great and 343i are really doing their best.
The multiplayer gets better and better with every title update and Halo 4 is graphically one of the best 360 games to date, they know how to work with the hardware they are given. I have no hate towards Halo 4, but only love.
> OP, I have said this time and time again. A few disagree with me, but I wholeheartedly believe that the reason why Halo 4’s population dropped to such low numbers can be summarized by this: Halo 4 =/= Halo 3
I am one who disagrees.
Note: I love H4 and have 20d of matchmaking play, plus another couple of days of customs.
But it is a true statement that H4 was released with problems - both known and unknown. The known ones could have been avoided (broken kill cams, slapped-together lobby GUI, lack of ranks, etc.). Rushing a game to market where the audience has such high expectations is a recipe for failure.
The unknown ones proved to be the bigger problem, though. The BS was annoyingly OP (and still is a bit, IMO). The weapons were horribly unbalanced, and when the DMR was combined with large, open maps and AAs like AC, the gameplay could be brutally frustrating. There were no “team” slayer variants - virtually everything was Infinity or minor variations thereof. Forge and custom games proved to be less capable than expected. And lag . . . OMG the lag . . . And so on.
Some of those unknowns were fixed, but only after the population had severely dropped off. 343i was not able to respond quickly enough to retain them, and some of the responses were ill-advised.
Anyway, there are lots of reasons people left H4. Most do actually relate to differences in H4 from H3 . . . but not simply because they are differences. It’s because those differences weren’t good.
> they(343) ruined the halo franchise for me. i was a loyal xbox supporter right up till the halo4 launch, i bought the most expensive game on the 360 to date with a halo sticker on the box and got a CoD/Halo hybrid still in beta.
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> even the new weapon sounds annoy me after a while, painfull to listen to with turtle beach headphones on.
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> i felt ripped off, since then i’ve let my live membership lapse and im moving ship to ps4 to follow Bungie. halo was the only reason i switched to xbox over 10 years ago.
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> i will try halo5 at a friends house and if its really back to its roots i’l buy an xbox one. if its anything like halo4 microsoft will have one less sale of a next gen console.
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> ps. i played Reach the other night for the first time in ages and loved every single minute of the story mode, halo4 i finished it once and that was it,shelved.
Reach went the right way at first, but Bungie ruined that by adding forge in the play lists, dlc was worthless, matches unbalanced and lag problems till 343i took over. The single player was amusing, I give you that.
Destiny was Bungies chance to show they could do something different, but most people see it as the CoD/Halo Hybrid you compared halo 4 to.
Bungie shows us that they are just a one trick pony.
343i is somehow compared to huge gaming studios, while they aren’t that big. They are not EA, Activions or Bungie in numbers. But in quality they are above those studios.
I just can’t wait till destiny turns into CoD, since Activision, loves quantity over quality.
Halo 4 dropped in population because the multiplayer wasn’t very good but also because it copied too many other video games. Gamers picked it up, played it for a while and saw how it was too similar to games they already owned but it wasn’t as good so they went back to those games.
The story and co-op is fantastic and I loved it. But the multiplayer I played until I reached max 130 (which was easy with 200 double XP tokens) and then dropped the game for something else that was much more fun.
I came back for a bit after the weapon balancing update but saw that it was too random, too many options, and too much stuff in multiplayer that made things a slot machine that decided if you lived or died.
So I left again to go back to other games like Battlefield 3.
I can’t assume what other people think of the game but it is how I think. There are certain standards that Halo has to meet on Day One and it didn’t meet them till it was too late.
> OP, I have said this time and time again. A few disagree with me, but I wholeheartedly believe that the reason why Halo 4’s population dropped to such low numbers can be summarized by this: Halo 4 =/= Halo 3
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> The reason people left Halo 4 was because they didn’t want Halo 4; They wanted Halo 3 with updated graphics. The community is scared of change, so when any is implemented, they try the new feature for 5 minutes, declare that it sucks, and then cry about it. Keep in mind though, I’m talking about the people YOU’RE talking about. I’m not referencing the guys who just dislike Halo 4, but think of ways in which it could be better. I’m referencing those guys who hate Halo 4 with a passion and do everything short of boycotting it to ‘express their views.’
It’s so incredibly easy to claim that people are simply “scared of change”. What’s not easy, is backing that up with any reasoning that even begins to base itself in logic.
There’s no logical pathway from seeing that people hate the changes that have been made, to assuming they are scared of all change.
Does it not make more sense that those people are just unhappy with the direction that 343 has decided to take Halo in? Of course it does. But we’ll ignore that, because it doesn’t happen to chime in with what we want to believe.
Imagine I gave you a pizza with a dead rat on it; you decided not to eat it and said you did not like what you were given, and I said: “well I’ll be darned! He’s scared of all pizza toppings!”
Would that not sound like a horrendously flawed assumption to you? I’m going to be charitable and assume that you would have enough intelligence to pick up on the flaw in that scenario. So don’t be surprised when others pick up on the flaw in your assumption.
> The reason people left Halo 4 was because they didn’t want Halo 4; They wanted Halo 3 with updated graphics. <mark>The community is scared of change</mark>, so when any is implemented, they try the new feature for 5 minutes, declare that it sucks, and then cry about it. Keep in mind though, I’m talking about the people YOU’RE talking about. I’m not referencing the guys who just dislike Halo 4, but think of ways in which it could be better. I’m referencing those guys who hate Halo 4 with a passion and do everything short of boycotting it to ‘express their views.’
Mm yes, remind me to show you this when you start disliking Halo 5, 6 or any other Halo game that doesn’t suit your taste.
Let’s evolve Halo 5 into Pong with the graphics to match, it’s change allright and anyone who doesn’t like it is afraid of change.
> <mark>Halo 4 dropped in population because the multiplayer wasn’t very good but also because it copied too many other video games.</mark> Gamers picked it up, played it for a while and saw how it was too similar to games they already owned but it wasn’t as good so they went back to those games.
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> The story and co-op is fantastic and I loved it. <mark>But the multiplayer I played until I reached max 130</mark> (which was easy with 200 double XP tokens) and then dropped the game for something else that was much more fun.
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> I came back for a bit after the weapon balancing update but saw that it was too random, too many options, and too much stuff in multiplayer that made things a slot machine that decided if you lived or died.
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> <mark>So I left again to go back to other games like Battlefield 3.</mark>
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> I can’t assume what other people think of the game but it is how I think. There are certain standards that Halo has to meet on Day One and it didn’t meet them till it was too late.
The only thing in halo that looks somewhat like other games, is the loadout option. if people talk about perks they say its like cod, which is hardly a comparison.
Battlefield 3 is pretty much the run of the mill modern military shooter. sure it has vehicles, but that doesn’t change the fact that a game that claims it is realistic, isn’t realistic in any way. Battlefield 3 feels like CoD with vehicles.
Ranks do not matter to me what so ever, the games I played as kid didn’t even have any ranks, you played for fun. Battlefield 4 is coming out soon, which in comparison to the time span between 2 and 3, feels rushed. I played the beta, it felt like bf 3 with brushed up visuals and some more customization.
I’m not referencing the guys who just dislike Halo 4, but think of ways in which it could be better. I’m referencing those guys who hate Halo 4 with a passion and do everything short of boycotting it to ‘express their views.’