Come on guys quit playing for “honor”
Nobody cares if it is “nooby” to spam grenades, these are legit tactics. Camping is a tactic that may not take skill, but it’s easy to kill campers if you have half a brain. These tactics are here to stay, so adapt and evolve instead of complaining and dying.
“Up close you aren’t so special, really. What gives you the right to do what you do?” ~ Jonah
“There is honor in our path, Humanity is nothing but a disease.” ~ Elite
“Yeah well this disease ain’t going nowhere and there is not a damn thing you can do about it” ~ Jonah
Realize that survival is more important than honor, the Spartan IIIs (Jonah and Roland) killed the covenant, their honor was spat on by the humans. Don’t play for honor, play for surviving. The Elites quickly learned this because
Instead of the Elites fighting fairly, invisible elites killed Roland, and then in being defeated Jonah Blew himself up along with the elitesAnd yeah it may be -Yoink- tactics, but they shouldn’t take them out.
“Don’t pray for an easier game, pray to become a better player” ~ BdobbinsFTW
Being -Yoink- tactics is exactly why they should be taken out.
I mean do whatever it takes to win in a competitive environment, but if you can only win by relying on an easy foo strategy then you still suck at the game, and the game itself doesn’t benefit from having easy strategies that trump everything else.
At some point you gotta ask yourself if winning is everything, and if it’s even worth it to win if you basically had to be as underhanded as possible to obtain victory.
You can play as dishonorably as you want, it’s not going to stop me from teabagging every noob-comboing, corner camping, power weapon hogging, vehicle -Yoink!-, kill-stealing, glitch exploiting and spawn-trapping sob I come across.
The issue is if the tactics are universally used or infrequently.
Or it’s a gun fight and some buckaroo had to show off and to come strapped with a bazooka.
The truly honorable won’t whine about cheesing or “unfairness”. They will fight their way regardless of what the opposition does.
Those who whine do so because they are unable to find a way to overcome the tactics being used. It doesn’t have anything to do with honor.
If it’s not a bannable offense, its a legit tactic. End of story. I won’t begrudge a camper or someone using a cheese weapon for playing the game within the rules.
(though i might fume in frustration 
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It just speaks volumes about the sort of person you are…
You wanna camp around corners with a shotgun and win that way?
That’s cool, you survived and you won…but you also have to accept that you’re a dishonourable, backstabbing -Yoink- that has to rely on cheap tactics to win, probably because you can’t outshoot people.
To reiterate: It’s ok for you to do it but you should come to terms with the sort of person you are 
I think everybody has a certain honor code that they play by. It’s just to what extent. I’m not above the Noob Combo, but it annoyed me in Halo 2 when you could hold a charge on the Plasma Pistol indefinitely without draining the power, so I didn’t do it in that game.
As far as camping is concerned …
I’m not too worried about these tactics in Halo 5 because the tools that made them so horrible in Reach and Halo 4 are gone: Promethean Vision, loadout camo, armor lock, Boltshot-shotgun in loadout, loadout plasmas, etc. These tactics are back to how they were in CE, H2, & H3, and that’s fine by me.
I agree with MrMartini. Everyone has their own honor code. I can deal with camping, as a couple well placed grenades will always ruin a camper’s day, but as far as glitching out of maps and exploiting building errors (like being able to get out of the map AND kill zones on Antifreeze) is beyond anything that can be considered fair. It’s not just about honor, it’s also about fairness. There aren’t too too many cheap tactics in H5 though. Camping is one thing, but that happens in every FPS. We don’t have BXR anymore, spawn trapping doesn’t happen much anymore besides in Warzone, and as mentioned above, many of the causes of infuriatingly cheap tactics from previous games have been removed.
But regardless of what you’re doing, whether you’re doing something important in the real world or just killing virtual Spartans in a video game, cutting corners is cutting corners. And if you cut corners, you should absolutely realize that you’re the type of person who is afraid of hard work, growth, and even more so, failure. So rather than progressing, you just stay in your comfort zone and never experience the better ways of life.
I play to win. I will use what ever weapon or tactic it takes to win. I won camp though because I find in most game types it won’t lead to a win. It is only good for padding your K/D majority of the time. Some try to flame me because my arena K/D is barely over a one and the AR is my top weapon. Well I pretty much only play FFA in arena so yeah it’s hard to keep a good K/D and since you spawn with an AR yeah it’s my top weapon.
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Whether they realize it or not the way people do one thing is representative of how they do everything. If your willing to lie, cheat, steal etc. to win a game than you’re willing to do those thing IRL as well. The idea that sportsmanlike conduct is somehow inappropriate is just mind-boggling. I refuse to spawn kill or camp. Your sense of ethics and whether you can live up to them are the only thing that matters.
The salt in this is friggin unreal!
Dishonarable? Phffft!
It’s dishonorable to break out of a map.
It’s dishonorable to intentionally betray teammates.
It’s dishonorable to intentionally commit suicides.
It’s dishonorable to intentionally leave a game before it is over.
Camping is not dishonorable, learn to check your corners.
Noob-Combo is not dishonorable, start respecting the plasma pistol and stop pretending like it won’t -Yoink- you up.
Hogging the power weapons? The description for slayer says “Control power weapons to win”. Phffft.
Kill Stealing? In FFA that is how you win, in team games it is called Team-Work.
If you are truly salty because these cheap-tactics (Oh, yes, I will admit they are cheap) are difficult to overcome then you have a lot of learning to do.
This game gives you ample tools to combat all of these cheap tactics and if you have not figured out how to do so (or if it just frustrates you in general) that doesn’t make the user dishonorable, that just means you are whining. Whining vs Winning, I will always pick the latter.
I agree with everyone here talking about ethics, since there’s some truth to that.
However, more importantly to me is that you will never get better if you rely on tactics that leave no room for personal skill improvement. Camping has it’s place, but overused you won’t have the opportunity to encounter enough players to get multi-kills or high kill-streaks.
> These tactics are here to stay, so adapt and evolve instead of complaining and dying.
This I can agree with. Far too often people on Halo make excuses for why they die, and refuse to accept that they could adapt their own playstyle to counter these types of players.
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> You can play as dishonorably as you want, it’s not going to stop me from teabagging every noob-comboing, corner camping, power weapon hogging, vehicle -Yoink!-, kill-stealing, glitch exploiting and spawn-trapping sob I come across.
Wow, that was inspirational.
The problem with people who play without any sort of code of honor is that they kinda ruin the game for everyone who does have a code. Even if said honor is some oddly twisted set of rules like mine. I play this game to have fun, not to get pissed off because some idiot is playing like an -Yoink- hole.
Grenades?
You mean those nuclear devices that I just throw five of in a row and get hail mary’s every game with?
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> I agree with MrMartini. Everyone has their own honor code. I can deal with camping, as a couple well placed grenades will always ruin a camper’s day, but as far as glitching out of maps and exploiting building errors (like being able to get out of the map AND kill zones on Antifreeze) is beyond anything that can be considered fair. It’s not just about honor, it’s also about fairness. There aren’t too too many cheap tactics in H5 though. Camping is one thing, but that happens in every FPS. We don’t have BXR anymore, spawn trapping doesn’t happen much anymore besides in Warzone, and as mentioned above, many of the causes of infuriatingly cheap tactics from previous games have been removed.
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> But regardless of what you’re doing, whether you’re doing something important in the real world or just killing virtual Spartans in a video game, cutting corners is cutting corners. And if you cut corners, you should absolutely realize that you’re the type of person who is afraid of hard work, growth, and even more so, failure. So rather than progressing, you just stay in your comfort zone and never experience the better ways of life.
This is pretty much all that needs to be said. More specifically the cutting corners bit at the end as that extends way beyond the confines of the virtual world.
I noob combo all the time when I get the chance. I really don’t know why its called noob combo if most noobs aren’t smart enough to use the tactic.
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> The salt in this is friggin unreal!
> Dishonarable? Phffft!
> It’s dishonorable to break out of a map.
> It’s dishonorable to intentionally betray teammates.
> It’s dishonorable to intentionally commit suicides.
> It’s dishonorable to intentionally leave a game before it is over.
> Camping is not dishonorable, learn to check your corners.
> Noob-Combo is not dishonorable, start respecting the plasma pistol and stop pretending like it won’t -Yoink- you up.
> Hogging the power weapons? The description for slayer says “Control power weapons to win”. Phffft.
> Kill Stealing? In FFA that is how you win, in team games it is called Team-Work.
> If you are truly salty because these cheap-tactics (Oh, yes, I will admit they are cheap) are difficult to overcome then you have a lot of learning to do.
> This game gives you ample tools to combat all of these cheap tactics and if you have not figured out how to do so (or if it just frustrates you in general) that doesn’t make the user dishonorable, that just means you are whining. Whining vs Winning, I will always pick the latter.
I agree with this guy.
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> You can play as dishonorably as you want, it’s not going to stop me from teabagging every noob-comboing, corner camping, power weapon hogging, vehicle -Yoink!-, kill-stealing, glitch exploiting and spawn-trapping sob I come across.
The only one of these that’s even dumb is corner camping. Everything else just sounds like excuses.