I find halo 4's story agitating to watch.

It’s not me, it’s you, 343. I just feel like 343 don’t know what Halo is.

In the past games, forerunner buildings were desolate, empty places. In halo 4 all the lights are on and it really ruins any feeling of discovery that one may have. Whilst extremely advanced, i never got the feeling that Forerunner technology was ‘magic’ in the bungie games. Solid light’s an interesting concept and i think there may be a paper or two about such a thing. Solid light making bridges is fine, Bullets/beams made of solid light seems sound (they should probably use a battery like covenant weapons, but i’d let that slide) Solid light making whatever it touches disintegrate… That’s magic. Forming a cube of solid light hundreds of metres away from any hard light emitter and having the avatar of a character move around freely within the cube… Magic.

The didact just isn’t a solid villain. Tactically he’s a moron. He doesn’t need a smart ai for EVERY unit in his army and he could probably duplicate anyone’s conciousness that is composed a few times. Also you could probably put more power to shields if you don’t give someone power-inefficient floating limbs too.

But it’s his motive that bugs me: revenge. Not only is his genius wife an absolute moron for putting all that effort into locking him up when she could have just killed him… but attempted genocide for something that happened so long ago is just… WHY? I mean i could totaly understand the Prophet’s motive for attempting a genocide, they’d be reduced to nothing if the humans joined the covenant. The didact is just being a child. How did someone like that get into a position of power in the most advanced race in the galaxy?

There’s loads more. I could probably go into detail on things like how Glassman’s suicide bomber vest was overkill and a dangerous move for the covenant, how thorn would realy have found his fight easy with gek due to having enough strength to be able to punch through gek’s neck with ease or at least outmatch the scarcely armoured elite when it comes to strength. Perhaps the profesional behaviour of majestic after that fight. Loads of stuff to complain about, LOADS.

Yeah, the Didact really bugged me. I’ve read all the backstory and can get where he is coming from…but what exactly will turning humans in kill droids accomplish?

This is basically him in a nutshell.

Frank O’ Connor is just a REALLY bad writer.

> Yeah, the Didact really bugged me. I’ve read all the backstory and can get where he is coming from…but what exactly will turning humans in kill droids accomplish?

WE’LL FINALLY BE RID OF THOSE SQUISHIES!

The Halo 4 campaign just deosn’t have that “Bungie feel”. It is bland and tasteless. Not to mention chief and cortanas personalities got wrecked.

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The Halo 4 campaign just deosn’t have that “Bungie feel”. It is bland and tasteless. Not to mention chief and cortanas personalities got wrecked. Halo 4’s campaign is a star wars rip off. It fails to rip it off as well! Haha!!! The writers at 343i really suck! In My Opinion!!!

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I think you forgot one exclamation point.

I didn’t feel like the campaign was a total failure. It had a lot of flaws but it had it’s ups too. But yes, I can agree to that they could have done a better job with the Didact and his story. They took the easy route and just made him one of those evil guys that wants to destroy the universe. We’ve heard that story a million times.

> I think you forgot one exclamation point.
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> I didn’t feel like the campaign was a total failure. It had a lot of flaws but it had it’s ups too. But yes, I can agree to that they could have done a better job with the Didact and his story. They took the easy route and just made him one of those evil guys that wants to destroy the universe. We’ve heard that story a million times.

I agree. To me the levels lacked creativity too!

If you think Halo 4’s story is bad, you should read the Travisty.

> I think you forgot one exclamation point.
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> I didn’t feel like the campaign was a total failure. It had a lot of flaws but it had it’s ups too. But yes, I can agree to that they could have done a better job with the Didact and his story. They took the easy route and just made him one of those evil guys that wants to destroy the universe. We’ve heard that story a million times.

Did we play the same game? Because the Didact is most definitely not the “villain who just wants to destroy the universe”.
The Didact is the antagonist, which can be very different from run of the mill villains, of the Reclaimer Saga. He just doesn’t want to kill all humans because he is evil. He views humanity as barbaric and childish. Ancient man took it upon themselves to attempt to purge the galaxy of the Flood and in doing so declared war with the Forerunners by annihilating the population of Forerunner planets. The Didact deems Humanity unworthy of the Mantle, what he thinks belongs to Forerunners and Forerunners alone.
The Didact may be viewed as “evil” and the “villain” from a human standpoint, but in his mind he has the best interests of the Forerunners and the entire galaxy in mind.

I liked Halo 4’s campaign more than any other Halo’s. Halo 3 ODST is second.

Puts flamesuit on because it seems like you can’t express a positive opinion for once about Halo 4

I guess I’m one out of the very few who enjoyed Halo 4’s story then?

> The Didact is the antagonist, which can be very different from run of the mill villains, of the Reclaimer Saga. He just doesn’t want to kill all humans because he is evil. He views humanity as barbaric and childish. Ancient man took it upon themselves to attempt to purge the galaxy of the Flood and in doing so declared war with the Forerunners by annihilating the population of Forerunner planets. The Didact deems Humanity unworthy of the Mantle, what he thinks belongs to Forerunners and Forerunners alone.
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> The Didact may be viewed as “evil” and the “villain” from a human standpoint, but in his mind he has the best interests of the Forerunners and the entire galaxy in mind. **[/color]

Thing is though the Forerunners were just as bad. Besides, he’s violating the Mantle anyway.

EDIT: My bad.

> I liked Halo 4’s campaign more than any other Halo’s. Halo 3 ODST is second.
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> Puts flamesuit on because it seems like you can’t express a positive opinion for once about Halo 4

What would be the point of expressing a positive opinion if it isn’t useful?

what’s worse

Hey, 343, you did bad because of this, fix this,possibly this way.

Hey,343, i likked it.

The second is emotional support, maybe. But do they need emotional support? They’ve already got my money!

Two words, ‘Space Magic’.

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To be perfectly honest, I loved the original Halo games…but Bungie didnt know how to story tell very well. They made a habit of constantly going in and out of all the secondary content like books and all that. Now obviously they got first take on what actually happened and what didnt, but it resulted in a lack of cohesion. Also, their characterization was not good. I mean, I really wanted to care about the spartans in Reach, but when they all died it pretty much had no impact with me because they werent fleshed out at all. Even someone like Johnson, who I think is awesome and I love, is just an archetype of a typical drill sergeant.

Again, I loved the games, but it really was frustrating how 1 dimensional the characters seemed sometimes. With 343 I feel like there was more effort into that. Now I get that this really was the point for Bungie and they wanted it to be about the gameplay. But I feel the story outside of the games is good and deserves to be fleshed out similar to a movie.

> Yeah, the Didact really bugged me. I’ve read all the backstory and can get where he is coming from…but what exactly will turning humans in kill droids accomplish?
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> This is basically him in a nutshell.

I could have sworn that was not his initial goal, turning them into droids is just a bonus, because whilst he wipes out his enemy, he can use his fallen foes as ammo against the living ones, it just seems like a good tactical advantage, he doesn’t exactly have the aid of other Forerunners anymore.

Maybe you just don’t have good taste. Personally, I think the campaign is the best out of the series, because never before has the relationship between Chief and Cortana been so strong.

> In the past games, forerunner buildings were desolate, empty places. In halo 4 all the lights are on and it really ruins any feeling of discovery that one may have. Whilst extremely advanced, i never got the feeling that Forerunner technology was ‘magic’ in the bungie games. Solid light’s an interesting concept and i think there may be a paper or two about such a thing. Solid light making bridges is fine, Bullets/beams made of solid light seems sound (they should probably use a battery like covenant weapons, but i’d let that slide) Solid light making whatever it touches disintegrate… That’s magic. Forming a cube of solid light hundreds of metres away from any hard light emitter and having the avatar of a character move around freely within the cube… Magic.

I don’t see how the Forerunner structures being active ruins exploration, but that’s me, I guess. From the moment Halo 4 was announced, Frankie and 343 made it clear that Requiem’s architecture would be active, not dormant like in the Bungie games.

Now, I have to ask what about hardlight disintegrating something is magic. Light and heat go hand in hand. Where there is one, the other is there. Seeing how advance Forerunner technology was, I doubt it would be that hard to make a hardlight “bullet” heat up and disintegrate a fallen enemy.

Finally, I’ll quote Arthur C. Clarke:

> Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

> The didact just isn’t a solid villain. Tactically he’s a moron. He doesn’t need a smart ai for EVERY unit in his army and he could probably duplicate anyone’s conciousness that is composed a few times. Also you could probably put more power to shields if you don’t give someone power-inefficient floating limbs too.

The Didact wasn’t a villain, he was an antagonist. And yes, there is a major difference between the two (though most media does not make this distinction, sadly).

Now, you assume that every unit is driven by a single AI, but we don’t know if this is true. It could be that a single AI (or Promethean Soul) drives multiple Knights. Even if this is not the case, and a single AI drives a single knight, duplicating AI is not as simple as you seem to think. In Halo media, duplicating an AI is rarely simple, and can come with consequences (as seen in First Strike)

> But it’s his motive that bugs me: revenge. Not only is his genius wife an absolute moron for putting all that effort into locking him up when she could have just killed him… but attempted genocide for something that happened so long ago is just… WHY? I mean i could totaly understand the Prophet’s motive for attempting a genocide, they’d be reduced to nothing if the humans joined the covenant. The didact is just being a child. How did someone like that get into a position of power in the most advanced race in the galaxy?

The Didact choose Humans because of their actions against the Forerunners. The Didact is a very old Forerunner, and his and the Librarian’s children were killed in the war with Humans. I would also point out that being sealed in his Cryptum was likely similar to going into cryo, meaning that, for him, the 100,000 years gone by would be an instant.

And then your accusations about the Librarian. She loved her husband, so it’s not so easy as “just kill him.” She hoped he would learn and help the Humans, and if he didn’t, it’s clear she put in place some plans to ensure Humanity’s survival.

> There’s loads more. I could probably go into detail on things like how Glassman’s suicide bomber vest was overkill and a dangerous move for the covenant, how thorn would realy have found his fight easy with gek due to having enough strength to be able to punch through gek’s neck with ease or at least outmatch the scarcely armoured elite when it comes to strength. Perhaps the profesional behaviour of majestic after that fight. Loads of stuff to complain about, LOADS.

  1. The bomb vest was more to keep Glassman in line than anything, a psychological ploy, if you like.

  2. Thorne was exhausted, and had been beaten up by Elites already. Even Spartans have their limits. You also seem to think that Sangheili bone and muscle structure is similar to Humans, but it is vastely different. Sangheili would have denser bone and muscle due to their homeworld having a higher gravitational pull. It’s not just a “punch him through the throat and be done with it.” A better complaint would be something like “why didn’t get just kill Thorne?” His cut was clearly aimed for the gun, not Thorne. Either Gek’s an idiot, or a terrible swordsman.

  3. Not sure what your issue with Majestic’s behavior after rescuing Thorne is.

Trust me, watching all of the terminal videos really helps when seeing the didact as a character. The humans were trying to rid the galaxy of the flood, but at the same time, killing many innocent races, like the forerunners, in the process. The didact thought the humans were barbaric and violent, and decided to kill all of them because they were a danger to the galaxy. The librarian kept an index of the humans because she did not want them to die, and also hid it from the didact. The didact used then data from the humans that he had killed to create the Prometheans. He used human data because of their violent nature. The didact started to go a little insane, so the librarian severely injured him, and trapped him in the giant ball thing (I don’t understand why that is a thing). She didn’t kill him because she loved him and didn’t want him to die. Fast forward to when Master Chief lands on Requiem. The infinity is contacting Master Chief, and the didact makes it look like the signal is coming from the center of Requiem. The prometheans are attacking Master chief because the librarian re-programmed them to keep all intruders out and keep them from unleashing the didact. Master Chief fights his way through to the core, and unleashes the didact thinking that it was a device that would let him communicate with the infinity. The didact then wants to kill humanity again, and for good this time. The only thing i can think of that is magic in halo 4 is when the librarian gives chief the “special power” that lets him not be killed by the mantle. That part is kind of stupid and magic, but nothing else. I thoroughly enjoyed the campaign, you just have to understand it completely and watch all the terminal videos, which was a big fault by 343i because not too many people are going to go through and watch all of them. anyway, i hope that this helped you understand it, and if you still don’t like the story, then I can’t stop you from saying your opinion. I just hope that you do look back and understand that it is very good, but opinions are opinions.