I don't think Chief is going Rogue

Why does everyone think Chief has gone Rogue? I see no indication that he would. Yeah his armer is broken, yeah he’s missing his chest plate, and yes he’s on an unidentified planet but that could be for many reasons. The fact the he’s keeping Cortana’s chip could simply be a sentimental thing. We don’t know if the Didact is dead. We don’t know what the UNSC is doing now that they know of the Didact and the potential Forerunner weapon still in the Galaxy. Remember that this is the RECLAIMER TRILOGY, the very name means Human that can operate Forerunner Technology. That right there should tell you something.
We have so many conflicts going on its baffling. Cortana’s Death and how that is effecting Chief, well Chief try to restore Cortana(most likely wont be possible because that would make her death meaningless), Halsey potentially helping the Covenant, The very large possibility that the Didact is still alive and wanting revenge on Chief, all the Forerunner Tech that could be used to kill humanity, the looming threat that both Silentium and the Librarian hinted at, and all the knowledge of the Universe that finding the Domain could bring. I sincerely doubt that the Conflict in Halo 5 is going to be based around Master Chief running from the UNSC for some reason.

First off i doubt he is missing his chest piece, we see a very rectangular shape on his chest near the shoulder

As for the Chief going rogue idea, it’s a popular idea and it has been hinted at in H4 with him disobeying direct orders for the greater good and Cortana. Also Halsey is being hunted down by ONI and UNSC, and John believes Halsey is the only person alive to “fix” Cortana if he does indeed find her. The pieces are falling into place for the Chief to go AWOL or rogue.

> Why does everyone think Chief has gone Rogue? I see no indication that he would. Yeah his armer is broken, yeah he’s missing his chest plate, and yes he’s on an unidentified planet but that could be for many reasons. The fact the he’s keeping Cortana’s chip could simply be a sentimental thing. We don’t know if the Didact is dead. We don’t know what the UNSC is doing now that they know of the Didact and the potential Forerunner weapon still in the Galaxy. Remember that this is the RECLAIMER TRILOGY, the very name means Human that can operate Forerunner Technology. That right there should tell you something.
> We have so many conflicts going on its baffling. Cortana’s Death and how that is effecting Chief, well Chief try to restore Cortana(most likely wont be possible because that would make her death meaningless), Halsey potentially helping the Covenant, The very large possibility that the Didact is still alive and wanting revenge on Chief, all the Forerunner Tech that could be used to kill humanity, the looming threat that both Silentium and the Librarian hinted at, and all the knowledge of the Universe that finding the Domain could bring. I sincerely doubt that the Conflict in Halo 5 is going to be based around Master Chief running from the UNSC for some reason.

> Why does everyone think Chief has gone Rogue?

We see him defy Del Rio to do a needed action so we no longer doubt he will do things just because he his told. Sooner or later he is going to find out about the BS that is going on with halsey and he is going to be pissed.

> Yeah his armer is broken

We have confirmation that his armor is fine. Cracks and scratches do not mean something is broken, if so you people must take your cars to the shop a lot.

> unidentified planet but that could be for many reasons.

We think he is on the ark and that MB might play a role even though we haven’t seen him yet.

> The fact the he’s keeping Cortana’s chip could simply be a sentimental thing.

Obviously

> We don’t know what the UNSC is doing now that they know of the Didact and the potential Forerunner weapon still in the Galaxy.

We know that ONI will abuse it and won’t share the information in full.

> Remember that this is the RECLAIMER TRILOGY, the very name means Human that can operate Forerunner Technology. That right there should tell you something.

Huh? We can use forerunner tech because we are closely related to them. The reclaimer trilogy is about chiefs journey as well as humanity.

> well Chief try to restore Cortana(most likely wont be possible because that would make her death meaningless)

Glad you understand that.

> Halsey potentially helping the Covenant

Can you blame her? Jul and Halsey hate ONI i don’t think they are going after humanity in full. It would be quite the story to have both alien and human forces taking down a rouge human faction. That alone could bring them together.

> The very large possibility that the Didact is still alive and wanting revenge on Chief

He is and from the ending he shouldn’t be attacking anymore.

> the looming threat that both Silentium and the Librarian hinted at

All i saw was “if the flood return” which wasn’t really said with anything. I expect the flood to be back (somewhat) but still.

> and all the knowledge of the Universe that finding the Domain could bring.

The domainw as destroyed and we just have the moss at path kethona

> I sincerely doubt that the Conflict in Halo 5 is going to be based around Master Chief running from the UNSC for some reason.

Well the garb implies he is running from something

> First off i doubt he is missing his chest piece, we see a very rectangular shape on his chest near the shoulder
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> As for the Chief going rogue idea, it’s a popular idea and it has been hinted at in H4 with him disobeying direct orders for the greater good and Cortana. Also Halsey is being hunted down by ONI and UNSC, and John believes Halsey is the only person alive to “fix” Cortana if he does indeed find her. The pieces are falling into place for the Chief to go AWOL or rogue.

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Look at the shoulder.

Him Disobeying Del Rio is completely different from leaving the UNSC and going Rogue. Ever at the end of Halo 4 we hear that Fleet Com sided with Chief Not Del Rio. These nothing that Halsey can fix at this point, Cortana was destroyed when the Nuke went off. The only thing he can do is try and find something Foreruner that can bring her back but I doubt even that.

> > Why does everyone think Chief has gone Rogue?
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> We see him defy Del Rio to do a needed action so we no longer doubt he will do things just because he his told. Sooner or later he is going to find out about the BS that is going on with halsey and he is going to be pissed.
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> We have confirmation that his armor is fine. Cracks and scratches do not mean something is broken, if so you people must take your cars to the shop a lot.
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> > unidentified planet but that could be for many reasons.
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> We think he is on the ark and that MB might play a role even though we haven’t seen him yet.
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> > The fact the he’s keeping Cortana’s chip could simply be a sentimental thing.
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> > We don’t know what the UNSC is doing now that they know of the Didact and the potential Forerunner weapon still in the Galaxy.
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> We know that ONI will abuse it and won’t share the information in full.
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> > Remember that this is the RECLAIMER TRILOGY, the very name means Human that can operate Forerunner Technology. That right there should tell you something.
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> Huh? We can use forerunner tech because we are closely related to them. The reclaimer trilogy is about chiefs journey as well as humanity.
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> > well Chief try to restore Cortana(most likely wont be possible because that would make her death meaningless)
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> Glad you understand that.
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> > Halsey potentially helping the Covenant
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> Can you blame her? Jul and Halsey hate ONI i don’t think they are going after humanity in full. It would be quite the story to have both alien and human forces taking down a rouge human faction. That alone could bring them together.
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> > The very large possibility that the Didact is still alive and wanting revenge on Chief
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> He is and from the ending he shouldn’t be attacking anymore.
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> > the looming threat that both Silentium and the Librarian hinted at
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> All i saw was “if the flood return” which wasn’t really said with anything. I expect the flood to be back (somewhat) but still.
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> The domainw as destroyed and we just have the moss at path kethona
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> > I sincerely doubt that the Conflict in Halo 5 is going to be based around Master Chief running from the UNSC for some reason.
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> Well the garb implies he is running from something

Again even Fleet Com sided with Chief. The whole UNSC is not controlled by Del Rio like characters.

He is not going to be Pissed about Halsey because even in Glass Lands when the UNSC arrested Halsey the Spartan 2s she was with didn’t do anything as soon as they found out why Halsey was being arrested.

From where do we have this confirmation? And I can tell that the chest plate is gone.

It could be the Ark, Reach, Installation 01, or a completely different place, we don’t know.

Oh yeah ONI is going to keep a giant Forerunner Ship that a fleet of UNSC ships couldn’t stop and that killed all the people in New Phoenix a secret.

No we can only use them because the Librarian made sure of it before the Halos were fired. And No the Reclaimer Trilogy is about Humanity Claiming the Mantle.

I think that Jul hates the UNSC in General not just ONI. Also Halsey said she wanted revenge on the UNSC not just ONI. However I doubt that she really intends on helping the Covenant destroy the UNSC.

What makes you believe he is Dead? The fact that the Pulse Grenade fried his shields, made him slightly unbalanced, and then fall in to a Slip Space Rupture? Yeah none of those things would kill him.

The Looming threat is not the Flood but something that both the Flood and the Forerunners fear… Most likely…

No the Domain wasn’t destroyed its location was lost during the Forerunner Flood war and only at the end did the Librarian find out its real significance.

The garb implies nothing but the fact that he is using something that is used in sand storms.

I think the scene from the trailer is about half-ish way through the game to be honest, the empty Cortana chip should be a memento that chief is a human and not a machine and now has to think and act for himself yadda yadda. Another thing is, he never approached the sphinx with hostility, meaning he very likely searched for it specifically, and with augmentation from the librarian, maybe he can pilot the said beastly bird machine of pure awesome.

So what would explain the reasoning of goin out rogue in the first place? I believe there are other librarian AI fragments, locked in something like the Janus key or whatnot on a Halo and they have to prepare for the inevitable crap-storm that would be the flood/precursors on the same scale as in forerunner times prior to the halo rings firing.

Also he IS the Master Chief, he knows his way around to blow up a halo ring and part of the Ark solo (well with Cortana too I guess x3 . So I pose a question; What if he isn’t rogue but simply ‘deterred’ from UNSC orders on the forerunner structure on a solo mission/or team is KIA(i.e cracked visor) to find the bloody bird machine? rather than going rogue or being buddy buddy with his evil corporate bosses at UNSC.

Another question/hypothesis is, what if he was deployed and got lost again? I mean the USNC seems to have a habit of doing that. i.e. another reason for cracked visor.

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‘In case of living Didact emergencies, please proceed to steal his weapons before he gets to use them himself and cause a massive sh*tstorm. cough like what he did with the composer cough have a nice day grocery shoppers!’

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> While he isn’t necessarily rogue, that he is using the same armour implies that he at least hasn’t got the consent of the UNSC.
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> He was pretty distraught at the end of Halo 4, and he’s been fighting none stop for years up until this point. I’m pretty sure he’d have to take some time off. That he hadn’t been assigned updated armour yet implies he had to suddenly grab his old suit and go off doing whatever he’s doing. For example he could have been sunbaking or hiking the Andes or whatever when he learns ‘something’ and quickly grabs he’s suit and a ship to go off to ‘somewhere’.

Ok, what your saying seem a lot more accurate to what’s going to happen in Halo 5. It’s just I’ve been hearing people almost continually saying “Oh, chiefs going Rogue. He’s going against the UNSC.” and I just don’t see that happening.
I know it was just an example but I don’t think he would just be able to grab his old suit, it being on the Infinity and all.

> Again even Fleet Com sided with Chief. The whole UNSC is not controlled by Del Rio like characters.
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> <mark>He is not going to be Pissed about Halsey because even in Glass Lands when the UNSC arrested Halsey the Spartan 2s she was with didn’t do anything as soon as they found out why Halsey was being arrested.</mark>
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> From where do we have this confirmation? And I can tell that the chest plate is gone.
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> It could be the Ark, Reach, Installation 01, or a completely different place, we don’t know.
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> Oh yeah ONI is going to keep a giant Forerunner Ship that a fleet of UNSC ships couldn’t stop and that killed all the people in New Phoenix a secret.
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> No we can only use them because the Librarian made sure of it before the Halos were fired. And No the Reclaimer Trilogy is about Humanity Claiming the Mantle.
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> I think that Jul hates the UNSC in General not just ONI. <mark>Also Halsey said she wanted revenge on the UNSC not just ONI</mark>. However I doubt that she really intends on helping the Covenant destroy the UNSC.
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> What makes you believe he is Dead? The fact that the Pulse Grenade fried his shields, made him slightly unbalanced, and then fall in to a Slip Space Rupture? Yeah none of those things would kill him.
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> The Looming threat is not the Flood but something that both the Flood and the Forerunners fear… Most likely…
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> No the Domain wasn’t destroyed its location was lost during the Forerunner Flood war and only at the end did the Librarian find out its real significance.
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> The garb implies nothing but the fact that he is using something that is used in sand storms.

WHAT!?!
He will be really angry for halsey. The spartan II were ready to help her (stopping osman and those clowns she carries around), but she said no and that everything was ok. And after, on Osman’s ship, fred said he was going to complain with the admiral. (Parangosky)
Halsey said she wants revenge, but it was said by 343 that she wants revenge on INFINITY crew and if she finds out the truth about Lasky’s orders conflicting with Osman’s, she will get angry with ONI, instead of Infinity.

> I think the scene from the trailer is about half-ish way through the game to be honest, the empty Cortana chip should be a memento that chief is a human and not a machine and now has to think and act for himself yadda yadda. Another thing is, he never approached the sphinx with hostility, meaning he very likely searched for it specifically, and with augmentation from the librarian, maybe he can pilot the said beastly bird machine of pure awesome.
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> So what would explain the reasoning of goin out rogue in the first place? I believe there are other librarian AI fragments, locked in something like the Janus key or whatnot on a Halo and they have to prepare for the inevitable crap-storm that would be the flood/precursors on the same scale as in forerunner times prior to the halo rings firing.
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> Also he IS the Master Chief, he knows his way around to blow up a halo ring and part of the Ark solo (well with Cortana too I guess x3 . So I pose a question; What if he isn’t rogue but simply ‘deterred’ from UNSC orders on the forerunner structure on a solo mission/or team is KIA(i.e cracked visor) to find the bloody bird machine? rather than going rogue or being buddy buddy with his evil corporate bosses at UNSC.
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> Another question/hypothesis is, what if he was deployed and got lost again? I mean the USNC seems to have a habit of doing that. i.e. another reason for cracked visor.
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> ‘In case of living Didact emergencies, please proceed to steal his weapons before he gets to use them himself and cause a massive sh*tstorm. cough like what he did with the composer cough have a nice day grocery shoppers!’

Thank you it’s about time I found someone with similar theories as me. Maybe he will also get a Forerunner Combat Skin since his suit is so beat up.

However there was only one Librarian AI. In Silentium she lift that in Requiem to help humans and then lift to spend what time she had lift on Earth before the Halos were fired.

> WHAT!?!
> He will be really angry for halsey. The spartan II were ready to help her (stopping osman and those clowns she carries around), but she said no and that everything was ok. And after, on Osman’s ship, fred said he was going to complain with the admiral. (Parangosky)
> Halsey said she wants revenge, but it was said by 343 that she wants revenge on INFINITY crew and if she finds out the truth about Lasky’s orders conflicting with Osman’s, she will get angry with ONI, instead of Infinity.

No Osman made it very clear that Halsey was under arrest and at that point the Spartans backed down. Also all the spartan were given their spartan recordes after that so I’m guessing Chief had gotten them as well so I think he knows fool well why Halsey was arrested. Also if he finds out that Infinity tried to assassinated Halsey I’m sure that he would also find out the reason.

> Thank you it’s about time I found someone with similar theories as me. Maybe he will also get a Forerunner Combat Skin since his suit is so beat up.
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> However there was only one Librarian AI. In Silentium she lift that in Requiem to help humans and then lift to spend what time she had lift on Earth before the Halos were fired.

Oh yea that’s right, well on janus hypotheses, any possibility the Janus key revealing possible locations or point in the direction of through chief’s augmentation but unable to actually use the thing because one half is with the Storm and the other with UNSC? sorta like a tuning fork for WMD’s :stuck_out_tongue:

Also I seem to have a rather high curiosity level of what the Librarian did to further augment chief besides an immunity to the composer and better abs. x.x

Edit: I also expect him in a forerunner suit in halo 6 to fight big baddies like flood or something, not so much from 5’s standpoint storywise.

> Oh yea that’s right, well on janus hypotheses, any possibility the Janus key revealing possible locations or point in the direction of through chief’s augmentation but unable to actually use the thing because one half is with the Storm and the other with UNSC? sorta like a tuning fork for WMD’s :stuck_out_tongue:
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> Also I seem to have a rather high curiosity level of what the Librarian did to further augment chief besides an immunity to the composer and better abs. x.x
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> Edit: I also expect him in a forerunner suit in halo 6 to fight big baddies like flood or something, not so much from 5’s standpoint storywise.

I think the Janus Key is just a map at shows where all Forerunner tech is and I don’t think it works at all unless it has the other half.

I do as well. She said that the gene sound she gave him had many gifts including an immunity to the Composer. So what are the other gifts? Perhaps we will find out in Halo 5?

I just think that if he has to fight that War Sphinx or Seeker or what ever, a Forerunnet Combat skin might help.
Also it seems that the Iso-Didact’s consciousness is on Onyx, similar to how the Librarian was in Halo 4. So it’s very possible that he may help Chief, perhaps even becoming a temporary suit AI.

I still think he’s looking for Halsey and that since the UNSC sees a Halsey as a high-end threat, he cant be seen looking for her. Or maybe it’s because his armor is worn darn (evidence is the cracked visor) while in the dessert. It could also have been purely because it was a teaser. They didnt want us to believe it was Halo until it was obviously Halo.

> I still think he’s looking for Halsey and that since the UNSC sees a Halsey as a high-end threat, he cant be seen looking for her. Or maybe it’s because his armor is worn darn (evidence is the cracked visor) while in the dessert. It could also have been purely because it was a teaser. They didnt want us to believe it was Halo until it was obviously Halo.

Why? What could Halsey possibly do at this point. She can’t fix Cortana because Cortana was destroyed. He wouldn’t be looking for Halsey just so she could create a new Cortana model because and I quote, “They’ll pare you with another AI. Maybe another Cortana model if Halsey lets them. It won’t be me, you know that right?”.

Well, I never got the impression that the chest plate is gone, neither do I think it’s gone even after looking at the two pictures posted.

> Well, I never got the impression that the chest plate is gone, neither do I think it’s gone even after looking at the two pictures posted.

Well you keep thinking that because there’s no way his chest plate is under that. It’s simiply not bulky enough.

Sure Chief as gone through a lot in Halo 4 like Del Rio being a punk, Palmer being well Palmer but he wouldnt do that to humanity. He wouldnt betray humanity.

When they take his armor off at the end of 4, I figured for the next game he would be issued an updated suit given how long he has been wearing that one and the beating it’s taken.

In the new trailer, seeing him in the same armor in the condition it’s in makes me think he suited up on his own and goes awol. He is out to do something for himself for once and find cortana. Also, in the trailer it doesn’t look like he is in fight mode. I kinda get that sense that he is willing to make a “deal with the devil” for cortana and then deal with the consequences.

Probably not even close to right but it’s fun to think about…pumped after seeing the trailer the other day.

> When they take his armor off at the end of 4, I figured for the next game he would be issued an updated suit given how long he has been wearing that one and the beating it’s taken.
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> In the new trailer, seeing him in the same armor in the condition it’s in makes me think he suited up on his own and goes awol. He is out to do something for himself for once and find cortana. Also, in the trailer it doesn’t look like he is in fight mode. I kinda get that sense that he is willing to make a “deal with the devil” for cortana and then deal with the consequences.
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> Probably not even close to right but it’s fun to think about…pumped after seeing the trailer the other day.

Well considering how beat up its is it possible he could get a Forerunner Combat Skin on his Journey.