I did it...

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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So, I did the one thing I never said I’d do, and haven’t up until now: I quit a Warzone match.

Why?

The threat of farming and spawn-killing…

I’ve been disconnected once or twice a few months ago, but this is the first time I’ve made the conscious decision to abandon a match. I’ve played several games today, the vast majority in WZA, and the vast majority of those have been against either partial or full, organized teams. And of that vast majority of games, I’ve been decimated (and occasionally farmed).

Now, I’m fine with losing (someone has to, afterall)…but these games got me to a point I haven’t been to since I was 21:

Furious. Like, ready to scream and throw my controller against a wall. Had a dude even score a Killionaire with only 1 death (his squad wasn’t far behind). I could capture nothing, and defend nothing.

And then, after taking a breather, I thought I’d try normal WZ, since Assault seems to be swarming with spartan companies today.

First game: JIP. Ended up winning, but not sure how. Anyway, tried again. March on Stormbreak. Lost due to bosses. That’s cool, and a perfectly legitimate strategy. Third game…the hallmark of the hardcore team: both armories are captured in short order, and a concentrated push fails to dislodge the enemy (whom is sitting there with a few worthogs, guarding every entrance)

At this point, I know what’s going to go down. No, I’m not a clairvoyant, but I’ve played enough games to know from experience that a firing squad is being set up and will soon descend on our home base for the next 10-20 minutes. And apparently, so did everyone else: over half of my team dropped out, one after the other. Some dropped after the armory was captured. The rest dropped after the failed attempt to retake said armory. And there I was, with about 5 teammates left…and I decided I just couldn’t take it. Even if I managed to hide, I’d be waiting at least ten minutes, doing nothing.

So, I quit. I swallowed the DNF, accepted the loss of my RP boost, and tried searching again…only to be placed right back into the same game.

-.-

Well, in less than 5 minutes, I’d quit twice now, taken on two DNF’s, and lost another RP.

I don’t know. I’ve been playing Halo for 15 years now, but nothing has quite made me as frustrated, demoralized, and questioning my committment to the franchise as Halo 5’s bastardized Warzone component. I think 343i had good intentions for this mode, and really did design it to be a casual experience. But, even if that’s the case, you’d be hard pressed to find a sweatier place in Halo 5 these days. Maybe it was just a bad day, but then again, maybe it wasn’t. Maybe what I experienced today, and what seems to be becoming more and more prevalent, is simply what Warzone has devolved into. Maybe I just can’t roll as a solo player anymore (makes me very sad).

Sorry, just felt the need to vent. I’m disbanding my own spartan company (it was really just started as a private group for me and my halo friends, but they don’t play anymore anyway), and I guess I’m looking for a new, full company to roll with.

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> 2533274977530102;1:
> So, I did the one thing I never said I’d do, and haven’t up until now: I quit a Warzone match.
>
> Why?
>
> The threat of farming and spawn-killing…
>
> I’ve been disconnected once or twice a few months ago, but this is the first time I’ve made the conscious decision to abandon a match. I’ve played several games today, the vast majority in WZA, and the vast majority of those have been against either partial or full, organized teams. And of that vast majority of games, I’ve been decimated (and occasionally farmed).
>
> Now, I’m fine with losing (someone has to, afterall)…but these games got me to a point I haven’t been to since I was 21:
>
> Furious. Like, ready to scream and throw my controller against a wall. Had a dude even score a Killionaire with only 1 death (his squad wasn’t far behind). I could capture nothing, and defend nothing.
>
> And then, after taking a breather, I thought I’d try normal WZ, since Assault seems to be swarming with spartan companies today.
>
> First game: JIP. Ended up winning, but not sure how. Anyway, tried again. March on Stormbreak. Lost due to bosses. That’s cool, and a perfectly legitimate strategy. Third game…the hallmark of the hardcore team: both armories are captured in short order, and a concentrated push fails to dislodge the enemy (whom is sitting there with a few worthogs, guarding every entrance)
>
> At this point, I know what’s going to go down. No, I’m not a clairvoyant, but I’ve played enough games to know from experience that a firing squad is being set up and will soon descend on our home base for the next 10-20 minutes. And apparently, so did everyone else: over half of my team dropped out, one after the other. Some dropped after the armory was captured. The rest dropped after the failed attempt to retake said armory. And there I was, with about 5 teammates left…and I decided I just couldn’t take it. Even if I managed to hide, I’d be waiting at least ten minutes, doing nothing.
>
> So, I quit. I swallowed the DNF, accepted the loss of my RP boost, and tried searching again…only to be placed right back into the same game.
>
> -.-
>
> Well, in less than 5 minutes, I’d quit twice now, taken on two DNF’s, and lost another RP.
>
> I don’t know. I’ve been playing Halo for 15 years now, but nothing has quite made me as frustrated, demoralized, and questioning my committment to the franchise as Halo 5’s bastardized Warzone component. I think 343i had good intentions for this mode, and really did design it to be a casual experience. But, even if that’s the place, you’d be hard pressed to find a sweatier place in Halo 5 these days. Maybe it was just a bad day, but then again, maybe it wasn’t. Maybe what I experienced today, and what seems to be becoming more and more prevalent, is simply what Warzone has devolved into. Maybe I just can’t roll as a solo player anymore (makes me very sad).
>
> Sorry, just felt the need to vent. I’m disbanding my own spartan company (it was really just started as a private group for me and my halo friends, but they don’t play anymore anyway), and I guess I’m looking for a new, full company to roll with.

I feel ya,its just that tryhards are so desperate for achilles which doesn’t even look good in my opinion that they farm and ruin people’s games/day.

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I have yet to quit a match but recently should have as a team had us out numbered in warzone, it was like 12 v 5 or something. A couple of us where in the back of the base and they still skipped over our core and came back and mowed us down. I sent a message to one of them and used a bad name in it which I guess I shouldn’t have done. But they reported me and I got a one day communication ban… I had a legendary rp boost and didn’t want to quit.

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It’s such a shame Halo 5’s flagship game mode has come to this.

They need to introduce a mercy rule or something (like in Destiny).

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> I have yet to quit a match but recently should have as a team had us out numbered in warzone, it was like 12 v 5 or something. A couple of us where in the back of the base and they still skipped over our core and came back and mowed us down. I sent a message to one of them and used a bad name in it which I guess I shouldn’t have done. But they reported me and I got a one day communication ban… I had a legendary rp boost and didn’t want to quit.

Lol sad people these days can’t take trash talk.

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Well, this is the first time I’ve seen a post where someone openly admits to quitting a match, and the responses aren’t an attempt at public shaming.

In all seriousness, you had every right to leave that match. Farmers are going out of their way to ruin a game for everyone else, no one should have to put up with their -Yoink-.

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I had 152,000 RP saved up (post-Hog Wild), and I figured I’d buy a dozen or so Gold packs. And for the first time, I felt nothing as I opened them. Mantises, Oni Scorpions, Vespin Hogs, Retinas, Scourges…it didn’t matter. There was just pessimism; that, after what I experienced today and in the last few days, none of these awesome reqs meant anything, because without a full team, most would either likely be destroyed in no time once spawned, or taken from my corpse in just a few seconds.

Full-fledged apathy towards Halo 5 at this moment. It was fun in the beginning (I had an absolute -Yoinking!- blast in Warzone those first few months), but gradually, the fun has been drained away and replaced with a do or die mentality. The casual arena Warzone was meant to be has been taken over by a number of extremely-organzied and, quite frankly, disrespectful clans.

And I’m not sure I can keep up. :confused:

Like I said, I don’t mind losing at all (I used to, when I was much younger, but I don’t pay it much mind now). And I expect some losing streaks here and there, but today…god, today was just awful. I’ve met tough players before, but these guys, I don’t know. It’s usually every once in a while I meet them, but lately, I’m extremely lucky if I even drop their shields before I’m Robo-copped. O.O

And the farming; I used to hit it every now and then. Maybe once in a month or two. But not anymore…

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> 2533274977530102;7:
> I had 152,000 RP saved up (post-Hog Wild), and I figured I’d buy a dozen or so Gold packs. And for the first time, I felt nothing as I opened them. Mantises, Oni Scorpions, Vespin Hogs, Retinas, Scourges…it didn’t matter. There was just pessimism; that, after what I experienced today and in the last few days, none of these awesome reqs meant anything, because without a full team, most would either likely be destroyed in no time once spawned, or taken from my corpse in just a few seconds.
>
> Full-fledged apathy towards Halo 5 at this moment. It was fun in the beginning (I had an absolute -Yoinking!- blast in Warzone those first few months), but gradually, the fun has been drained away and replaced with a do or die mentality. The casual arena Warzone was meant to be has been taken over by a number of extremely-organzied and, quite frankly, disrespectful clans.
>
> And I’m not sure I can keep up. :confused:

At least you can still use those REQs for firefight, when we finally get it.

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well I’m glad I wasn’t the only one today.
I made a thread earlier called
to hell with farming
on dispatch. They let us catch the garage on the last minute so the time would reset.
this warzone assault game I played was just me and my team getting spawn killed by snipers if you spawned outside the garage or spawn killed by two people with Achilles armor who were camping inside the garage with answer saws.
Also outside 3 banshees and a phaeton decided to take full control of everyone and everything.
I’m quitting warzone for a bit now. Just taking a break because only a few months ago i never noticed farming but now it’s just becoming more and more common.
Glad it wasn’t just me it happened to today. But at the same time I’m sorry that happened to you. I nearly did quit the match but my legendary RP boost. And I wanted to report them so badly I really did. Just for how unfairly they played. But I didnt report them. It took everything not to.

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There were many fireteams in WZ today. I hope it was only because of the update and things will normalize. Got farmed once tonight, but am proud to say I have not quit. There are so many quitters out there, and at the end of the day it’s just a game.

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> well I’m glad I wasn’t the only one today.
> I made a thread earlier called
> to hell with farming
> on dispatch. They let us catch the garage on the last minute so the time would reset.
> this warzone assault game I played was just me and my team getting spawn killed by snipers if you spawned outside the garage or spawn killed by two people with Achilles armor who were camping inside the garage with answer saws.
> Also outside 3 banshees and a phaeton decided to take full control of everyone and everything.
> I’m quitting warzone for a bit now. Just taking a break because only a few months ago i never noticed farming but now it’s just becoming more and more common.
> Glad it wasn’t just me it happened to today. But at the same time I’m sorry that happened to you. I nearly did quit the match but my legendary RP boost. And I wanted to report them so badly I really did. Just for how unfairly they played. But I didnt report them. It took everything not to.

Yeah, it’s a real epidemic in WZA. I feel like it’s worse there, because you don’t even gain points for killing spartans like you do in normal WZ. There’s literally no justification behind it beyond stat padding. I loved WZA, but these companies are quickly turning it into something I don’t even want to look at anymore.

As for the 3 banshees, phaetons, and saws spawn-killing you…I’ve been there. Had a game where even if I spawned in the garage, there was someone with The Answer waiting to pick me off from behind the moment I spawned, just like you. :confused: I did get lucky at one point and managed to hide behind a rock while the rest of the attackers got slaughtered by banshees, phaetons, tanks, and snipers (this, after they tricked a teammate into capping the armory…)

Maybe a break would be best.

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> 2533274875982754;10:
> There were many fireteams in WZ today. I hope it was only because of the update and things will normalize. Got farmed once tonight, but am proud to say I have not quit. There are so many quitters out there, and at the end of the day it’s just a game.

Props to you for not quitting (seriously). I just don’t think I could have handled another game of Hide n’ Go Slaughter. :confused:

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> 2533274977530102;11:
> > 2533274923746840;9:
> > well I’m glad I wasn’t the only one today.
> > I made a thread earlier called
> > to hell with farming
> > on dispatch. They let us catch the garage on the last minute so the time would reset.
> > this warzone assault game I played was just me and my team getting spawn killed by snipers if you spawned outside the garage or spawn killed by two people with Achilles armor who were camping inside the garage with answer saws.
> > Also outside 3 banshees and a phaeton decided to take full control of everyone and everything.
> > I’m quitting warzone for a bit now. Just taking a break because only a few months ago i never noticed farming but now it’s just becoming more and more common.
> > Glad it wasn’t just me it happened to today. But at the same time I’m sorry that happened to you. I nearly did quit the match but my legendary RP boost. And I wanted to report them so badly I really did. Just for how unfairly they played. But I didnt report them. It took everything not to.
>
>
> Yeah, it’s a real epidemic in WZA. I feel like it’s worse there, because you don’t even gain points for killing spartans like you do in normal WZ. There’s literally no justification behind it beyond stat padding. I loved WZA, but these companies are quickly turning it into something I don’t even want to look at anymore.
>
> As for the 3 banshees, phaetons, and saws spawn-killing you…I’ve been there. Had a game where even if I spawned in the garage, there was someone with The Answer waiting to pick me off from behind the moment I spawned, just like you. :confused: I did get lucky at one point and managed to hide behind a rock while the rest of the attackers got slaughtered by banshees, phaetons, tanks, and snipers (this, after they tricked a teammate into capping the armory…)
>
> Maybe a break would be best.

yeah for sure. I haven’t played too much the past two days. So far I’ve only played to record videos and get the daily win packs. But a break is much needed. From warzone at least. Specially on skirmish at darkstar when your stuck on level 1 req struggling to level 2 while phaetons and wraiths and snipers destroy you haha

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> 2533274977530102;1:
> So, I did the one thing I never said I’d do, and haven’t up until now: I quit a Warzone match.
>
> Why?
>
> The threat of farming and spawn-killing…
>
> I’ve been disconnected once or twice a few months ago, but this is the first time I’ve made the conscious decision to abandon a match. I’ve played several games today, the vast majority in WZA, and the vast majority of those have been against either partial or full, organized teams. And of that vast majority of games, I’ve been decimated (and occasionally farmed).
>
> Now, I’m fine with losing (someone has to, afterall)…but these games got me to a point I haven’t been to since I was 21:
>
> Furious. Like, ready to scream and throw my controller against a wall. Had a dude even score a Killionaire with only 1 death (his squad wasn’t far behind). I could capture nothing, and defend nothing.
>
> And then, after taking a breather, I thought I’d try normal WZ, since Assault seems to be swarming with spartan companies today.
>
> First game: JIP. Ended up winning, but not sure how. Anyway, tried again. March on Stormbreak. Lost due to bosses. That’s cool, and a perfectly legitimate strategy. Third game…the hallmark of the hardcore team: both armories are captured in short order, and a concentrated push fails to dislodge the enemy (whom is sitting there with a few worthogs, guarding every entrance)
>
> At this point, I know what’s going to go down. No, I’m not a clairvoyant, but I’ve played enough games to know from experience that a firing squad is being set up and will soon descend on our home base for the next 10-20 minutes. And apparently, so did everyone else: over half of my team dropped out, one after the other. Some dropped after the armory was captured. The rest dropped after the failed attempt to retake said armory. And there I was, with about 5 teammates left…and I decided I just couldn’t take it. Even if I managed to hide, I’d be waiting at least ten minutes, doing nothing.
>
> So, I quit. I swallowed the DNF, accepted the loss of my RP boost, and tried searching again…only to be placed right back into the same game.
>
> -.-
>
> Well, in less than 5 minutes, I’d quit twice now, taken on two DNF’s, and lost another RP.
>
> I don’t know. I’ve been playing Halo for 15 years now, but nothing has quite made me as frustrated, demoralized, and questioning my committment to the franchise as Halo 5’s bastardized Warzone component. I think 343i had good intentions for this mode, and really did design it to be a casual experience. But, even if that’s the case, you’d be hard pressed to find a sweatier place in Halo 5 these days. Maybe it was just a bad day, but then again, maybe it wasn’t. Maybe what I experienced today, and what seems to be becoming more and more prevalent, is simply what Warzone has devolved into. Maybe I just can’t roll as a solo player anymore (makes me very sad).
>
> Sorry, just felt the need to vent. I’m disbanding my own spartan company (it was really just started as a private group for me and my halo friends, but they don’t play anymore anyway), and I guess I’m looking for a new, full company to roll with.

I also never quit games. I just don’t. And besides disconnecting and joining a fireteam I believe I have genuinely quittet only once.

But there comes a time where everyone just gives up and are fueled with rage.

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good for you, why is this a post? you quit two games, whats the big deal…

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> good for you, why is this a post? you quit two games, whats the big deal…

It was vent post, and also meant to shed some more light on the increasing sweatiness that’s overtaking WZ and WZA.

If you don’t agree with it or were confused as to why I needed to vent, you could always, oh idk, not reply to it? O.o

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> 2533274977530102;1:
> So, I did the one thing I never said I’d do, and haven’t up until now: I quit a Warzone match.
>
> Why?
>
> The threat of farming and spawn-killing…
>
> I’ve been disconnected once or twice a few months ago, but this is the first time I’ve made the conscious decision to abandon a match. I’ve played several games today, the vast majority in WZA, and the vast majority of those have been against either partial or full, organized teams. And of that vast majority of games, I’ve been decimated (and occasionally farmed).
>
> Now, I’m fine with losing (someone has to, afterall)…but these games got me to a point I haven’t been to since I was 21:
>
> Furious. Like, ready to scream and throw my controller against a wall. Had a dude even score a Killionaire with only 1 death (his squad wasn’t far behind). I could capture nothing, and defend nothing.
>
> And then, after taking a breather, I thought I’d try normal WZ, since Assault seems to be swarming with spartan companies today.
>
> First game: JIP. Ended up winning, but not sure how. Anyway, tried again. March on Stormbreak. Lost due to bosses. That’s cool, and a perfectly legitimate strategy. Third game…the hallmark of the hardcore team: both armories are captured in short order, and a concentrated push fails to dislodge the enemy (whom is sitting there with a few worthogs, guarding every entrance)
>
> At this point, I know what’s going to go down. No, I’m not a clairvoyant, but I’ve played enough games to know from experience that a firing squad is being set up and will soon descend on our home base for the next 10-20 minutes. And apparently, so did everyone else: over half of my team dropped out, one after the other. Some dropped after the armory was captured. The rest dropped after the failed attempt to retake said armory. And there I was, with about 5 teammates left…and I decided I just couldn’t take it. Even if I managed to hide, I’d be waiting at least ten minutes, doing nothing.
>
> So, I quit. I swallowed the DNF, accepted the loss of my RP boost, and tried searching again…only to be placed right back into the same game.
>
> -.-
>
> Well, in less than 5 minutes, I’d quit twice now, taken on two DNF’s, and lost another RP.
>
> I don’t know. I’ve been playing Halo for 15 years now, but nothing has quite made me as frustrated, demoralized, and questioning my committment to the franchise as Halo 5’s bastardized Warzone component. I think 343i had good intentions for this mode, and really did design it to be a casual experience. But, even if that’s the case, you’d be hard pressed to find a sweatier place in Halo 5 these days. Maybe it was just a bad day, but then again, maybe it wasn’t. Maybe what I experienced today, and what seems to be becoming more and more prevalent, is simply what Warzone has devolved into. Maybe I just can’t roll as a solo player anymore (makes me very sad).
>
> Sorry, just felt the need to vent. I’m disbanding my own spartan company (it was really just started as a private group for me and my halo friends, but they don’t play anymore anyway), and I guess I’m looking for a new, full company to roll with.

You’re not alone. It seems commonplace nowadays and even a source of bragging rites both in the lobby and on this website. I actually read thread after thread of complaints on farming and the amount of people defending it is pretty staggering. Yes, in the old days of Halo there was “spawn camping”. This new version of “spawn camping” has hit a level I never thought it would. Like everyone else here, I play for fun and to rank up and to unlock REQ packs but the balance has shifted and it’s definitely not worth playing Warzone as a “lone wolf” anymore. Actually, the fun is almost all gone. I like objective game types which is why I enjoy Warzone. When you’re being farmed, it takes the wind out from your sails and you just want to shut off the console for the rest of the night. Those who protect farming should join some of my games and see if they’ll protect it then.

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> 2533274977530102;16:
> > 2533274942042829;15:
> > good for you, why is this a post? you quit two games, whats the big deal…
>
>
> It was vent post, and also meant to shed some more light on the increasing sweatiness that’s overtaking WZ and WZA.
>
> If you don’t agree with it or were confused as to why I needed to vent, you could always, oh idk, not reply to it? O.o

Dont listen to him just likes to troll on all the farm threads. The majority of the community understands where your coming from but we are just stuck with the way it is.

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It always annoys me how in an objective passed game, you don’t get rewarded for doing the objective. Seriously, give a medal for destroying the enemy core and a boost of rp and xp and it will maybe reduce some of the farming in warzone. I haven’t raged yet, but when you are pushed into the home base it is the most infuriating and boring experience in a video game. I feel bad for everyone who has to go through this.

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I’ve never been so excited for a PvE mode for Halo until now. I really hope that the populations of WZ and WZA plummet to where only 12 man teams are left to play each other, when FF is released later this month.