people switch out the br for the stalker rife. Anyway, players shouldnt be forced to pick up non power weapons. It should always be an option yet infinite has designed it into their gameplay as a requirement to be morre powerful.
and players should be allowed to have that option if they dont want to pick weapons up that are not power weapons. 343 are restriccting how people can play which makes the game stale.
The melee is too op in this game, you can get killed by a melee when your shield is over 50%, it doesnât make any sense
maybe the lunge is OP
I have a feeling all these issues are tied to the game engine. I feel like the engine is not user friendly and they are having a hard time implementing changes and are having to find work arounds.
Iâm happy with 343âs solution. I would like to see melees less powerful, and this is one way. I wish theyâd also reduce melee lunge, autoaim, and magnetism, but this is a good start. The fact that it also fixes the OP Mangler one shot beat down makes this an especially elegant change, IMO.
I love the melee and Mangler just as is, they are changing elements that once again didnât need changing when six weapons are underpowered.
There is a very simple solution for 343:
-Reverse the 10% decrease to Melee damage for all weapons
-Decrease spawn rate for Mangler (make it spawn rarer than common weapons like BR and Commando, but more common than Rocket Launcher I.E. Bulldog)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBWAK3Hdhzo
The video is from FootedGhost, heâs a halo youtuber. Iâd recommend any give it a watch.
That is literally what youre doing. Allowing some highly reliable weapons as starters, nobody will pick up even an assault rifle if this goes out. Nobody will poke with a pulse rifle if you have a BR.
weapon pickups still have uses and skiilled players who can find the right situation to gain an advantage will use them, whille casuals will pick them up just for fun
the starting weapons should be the reliable weapons. The weapons you find on the map besides the power weapons should not radically change gameplay. They should just be there to spice up different parts of the map up but shouldnt be required to pick up.
Didnât reach not allow melee kills unless the shield was depleted? I feel like that feature would solve a lot of problems right now.
Yeah reach had that feature but i think the best option is a middle ground between the 2 games
Whatâs your suggestion, if I may ask?
Personally was a fan of reach because it gave a clear indicator of when a melee kill was ready vs. when it was not. Also it equalized melees across all weapons in most situations.
The problem with reach was that you could shoot someone 3 times with a dmr but you still needed 2 melees to kill them, one for the last bit of shield and the second to get the kill. While somebody else could just sprint to you and melee you 2 times, resulting in a trade. So the enemy could effectively âeatâ at least 3 of your dmr shots in some cases⌠thatâs a problem!
I think halo 3 had the best system, you could kill someone with one melee only when their shield was at 20-25% left. Currently in infinite, the melee does too much damage, itâs not like in halo 3
That makes sense.
Reachâs DMR was a 5-shot kill. Had it been a 4-shot, the DMR-user likely could just go for a headshot before the 2nd melee connected.
As for sprinting up to a DMR-user. That just wouldnât happen if sprint wasnât a thing.
H3âs method was good. And I wouldnât mind if Infinite went that route. I just wish it was more obvious when a 1HK melee was ready.
They specifically stated the melee reduction wonât affect the 2 shot melee for the BR
That was for ranked. They didnât mention social.
Ranked was where the issue with the Mangler was to begin with. I donât see why it wouldnât be the same in social though. They said âglobalâ change to melee. To me, that means the entire game. Sometimes 343 doesnât word things well but I think they mentioned ranked to assure the competitive community the BR wonât be affected.
The BR was always a 3 shot melee in classic Halos anyways. MLG settings had 110% dmg making it two shot melee.
Iâm in the boat of Infinite having too short TTK. Hopefully this helps with the AR as it currently takes 6 shots and a melee to kill
Thatâs why social players are pissed about the change. Itâs happening to social playlists as well. And social players, at least the lower skilled ones, donât really gravitate toward the mangler. Not that they donât want it or think itâs bad, but because they simply canât abuse it the way the pros do. I never see âDrop Thisâ combos and hardly run into the âSlap nâ Tapâ. To many social players it was âThat Quirky Gun That Is Really Good Up Closeâ. Also this only makes the Sword issue worse since the mangler was one of the few guns that could deal with a sword user up close (under the right circumstances).
âGlobalâ means that every gun is getting a melee nerf. Thatâs how I understood it.
They did. And it wonât be. However, it will be weaker in social, along with the mangler, effectively nerfing the CQC capabilities of two popular guns in one fell swoop for social, even though Ranked is where it was an issue, and ranked players are the ones who asked for a change.
I donât really mind the BR being a 3 shot + melee, but I am curious to see how it handles against ARs and sidekicks that can get to that melee threshold pretty fast.
Youre literally asking for no diversity in content if the power weapons are in spawn. Like if you want to win, dont pick up a weapon that isnt a power. Theres a reason BR starts stays in ranked.
nope, its possible to pick up weapons on par with what you already have that can still give you an advantage AND enjoy the game in different ways. By not forcing players tto piick up these weapons, it adds more diversity because people choose their playstyle.