I believe the haters are the majority

I strongly believe the haters are the actual majority. While I dont have sufficient evidence to fully back my opinion up a lot of things point toward it. Fastest selling Halo with the most rapidly decreasing and lowest population . 7+million copies sold with more xboxs in household’s now then back in the Halo 3 days . The game lost more then 60% of the population in the first month. This has never happened with any halo game before. The game originally was #2 on the xbox live chart now is 4th on it. Halo 3 remained #2 even after mw2 and that came out 2 years after Halo 3.the game also hasnt hit 100k peak since January. Im starting to get very worried about my favourite franchise. Id be scared if I was 343

Do not worry, the Grunt Overlord will save it all.

Well the population statistics do point towards that conclusion.Though it could be a number of things.Halo 4 wasn’t exactly received very well due to a number of problems after launch.

Hard to say really.

Maybe people are just tired of friggin’ Halo?

Play it for a little bit then move on to other awesome games that come out, or they haven’t played yet.

See there is empirical data to support some of your assertions about how well Halo 4 is doing. But on one hand are those graphs comparing the same data points by the same criteria. That is ultimately the question.

But its XBL standings show a significant change in player activity which can be measured without other points of data.

Though that doesn’t make them “haters” it just means that people are not satisfied with game on some level. Or any number of other reasons they don’t play the game. I like the game so I play it, but I find Dust 514 more fun.

The “Haters” are the people who want to see halo more like well… halo

want more balanced weps
better vehicles
and the more arena feel towards halo

Yup, I have never seen a Halo game die so fast. It’s shameful really.

Some of the things contributing to this are a lack of game modes, horrible maps and botched gameplay mechanics. The severely lacking TU doesn’t help either.

“Trust us” - 343i

Yeah right.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

For the first time ever, the next Halo game that comes out is going to be a rent.

When you add up the competitive, classic, custom, and forge communities, if it’s not a majority it’s certainly a group worth listening to. Not to mention players who generally enjoy the new things about halo 4 but still want balanced gameplay.

those 60% moved on to cod.

They’re really not. You’re not taking into account all the people that just play the game and enjoy it and don’t sprint to the forums to complain about every little thing. It’s easy to think something is a majority when it’s the only thing you see.

> They’re really not. You’re not taking into account all the people that just play the game and enjoy it and don’t sprint to the forums to complain about every little thing. It’s easy to think something is a majority when it’s the only thing you see.

Did you even read the OP posts? Because I don’t see any arguments from you, why he is wrong according to you.

> Maybe people are just tired of friggin’ Halo?
>
> Play it for a little bit then move on to other awesome games that come out, or they haven’t played yet.

Halo 4 has many short comings that I believe dictated its early decline.

  1. Launch day overload. (Betas are important)
  2. Lack of classic/good playlists (People were fed infinity crap without classic halo playlists. There is still only one FFA playlist :frowning: )
  3. No campaign scoring
  4. No Red X at death
  5. Ugly armor styles
  6. To much of Reach style
  7. No good ranking system
  8. SR level caps off at 130
  9. Not enough maps

And the list goes on…

First impressions are important and 343i made a bad one