I believe PV & Camo have no place in loadouts

PV and camo ruin gameflow, not only they are op armor abilities if they are available since spawn, but they promote camping and slow the game up. Reach made the same mistake with active camo and armor lock.

I firmly believe if you remove both from loadouts and maybe include them in ordinances, will make this game even better, cheap abilities like these 2 is was turns off longtime fans and overwhelms new players, let’s make this game about skill and not randomness and luck, nobody likes campers ask anybody on any game

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I don’t think PV is too OP; I generally only finding myself using it when I’ve encountered someone, put a few shots in them, but they end up getting the chance to hide behind a wall or object. It least gives the advantage of knowing where to place your reticle on an enemy you should have already killed once they pop out from that spot. At the very most, nerf the range PV is active at since it’ll pretty much cover the entire map at the speed of sound if you allow it to run till cooldown.

Invisibility is hella OP though … also, giving a kid a chance to call in multiple one-shot-to-kill weapons (sniper, beam rifle, that promethean railgun thing that kills in one shot if you hit them in the toe) AND give him the ability to be invisible? what kind of balance is that?

So camping invisible with a sniper/stick grenades doesn’t take skill!?

PV/AC are two sides of the same coin.
PV allows you to see those invisible campers making their s’mores and singing kumbaya whilst cleaning their shotguns and polishing their stickies.

No what we don’t need is Jetpack.

343 take Jetpack out of the game.

Camo seems a lot more powerful in this game but it has to be put into the right hands to be used properly, therefore I am okay with it, and I think PV is perfectly fine.

Halo 4 is spammed with PV users all day stand still away from the action and feel your controller constantly pulse vibrate.

PV doesn’t belong in Halo Multiplayer full stop & Camo should of been a power up like damage boost.

I had a 2min stare contest with a player on Haven yesterday were we was communicating via tea bagging. This is what 343 think Halo is all about.

PV is fine, its only especially useful against campers because otherwise it just acts like a slightly longer range radar. Camo is annoying at range but the radar scrambler is now more of a “hi Im here” signal so it sucks up close now