I am tired of this AR meta already

I mean, yes it was fun for a while but now is becoming boring, if this is the meta for the full release then I think people will leave the game rather quickly because this meta will be boring real soon, I can’t find enjoyment in squeeze the right trigger down for full fights for more than 2 hours.

It is only my opinion, I know that people are enjoying it right now but I am almost certain that even the people who are still enjoying it will get bored after a few weeks…

Please 343 I beg you, just need the AR a little bit and make precision weapons a little bit better than AR, almost all the matches I play nobody picks other weapons other than power weapons because there is no need, AR is better than almost every weapon on the map.

EDIT: So, now that BTB was “released” I must say a couple of things, it seems that Halo Sandbox was designed for BTB, the AR is perfect for BTB! The BR is perfect for BTB and even the pistol is good for BTB took every weapon has a purpose in BTB and AR is good for close ranged but can’t be abused in maps so big as the BTB ones.

I really like AR, BR and Pistol in BTB and I don’t want them changed for it, because it is perfect… Now, I remain with the same opinion that for 4v4 smaller maps, the AR is too strong and will be the main weapon in every case other than power weapons.

I really don’t know how 343 can balance AR for both modes because the sandbox is in a perfect state in BTB in my opinion and if they change it to balance 4v4, then BTB will not be perfect anymore, it will I balance BTB unfortunately… I don’t know of I want them to change anything after all…

Maybe remove AR from starting weapons on 4v4 might be a solution to keep BTB sandbox perfect and 4v4 not being overrun by AR only. I believe this is the final solution, remove AR from starting weapons on 4v4 (but let it be a starting weapon on BTB obviously).

I feel you bro. I really do.

The AR doesn’t even play well with the Halo dance, I don’t know why people keep pushing for it to be stronger. It’s less fun, the fights are less interesting, and the game suffers for it.

I really want to test BR/Sidekick starts soon. It will be so much better.

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> I feel you bro. I really do.
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> The AR doesn’t even play well with the Halo dance, I don’t know why people keep pushing for it to be stronger. It’s less fun, the fights are less interesting, and the game suffers for it.
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> I really want to test BR/Sidekick starts soon. It will be so much better.

I am gonna be totally honest with you here, this game with this meta resembles more a Titanfall or CoD to me than an Halo.

AR makes the TTK incredibly low, Halo is famous for it’s high TTK, with this low TTK this game looks too fast paced, people complained that Halo 5 looked fast but this one looks way faster to me because of it’s low TTK thanks to the AR being this strong…

100 percent agree with you here. In reality, I think the AR was perfect in CE. Useless med-long range, but it’s actually very good close range. Only reason people don’t use it iin CE as much was due to the 3pop Pistol.

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> 100 percent agree with you here. In reality, I think the AR was perfect in CE. Useless med-long range, but it’s actually very good close range. Only reason people don’t use it iin CE as much was due to the 3pop Pistol.

100% dude I hope they change it. Since we don’t have a Sub machine gun, AR should occupy it’s role, good for close quarters but not good for mid-long range, not this absolute AR fest at any range we have now.

are we playing the same game? the ar is the weakest gun in the game lol i get destroyed by needlers, 1 shot by shotguns, 2 shot by the laser gun, 4 shot by the pistol lol ar and pulse rifles take easily 20 bullets to kill someone…utter rudiculous

The AR dominates the sandbox. I’m glad more people are talking about this after the 2nd flight

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> The AR dominates the sandbox. I’m glad more people are talking about this after the 2nd flight

100% it’s an AR, slide, melee meta and it’s not fun. Literally people charge at you with ar until they are in melee range then rinse and repeat.

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> AR is better than almost every weapon on the map.

Even still, most of the power weapons aren’t even worth picking up compared to the AR…

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> I mean, yes it was fun for a while but now is becoming boring, if this is the meta for the full release then I think people will leave the game rather quickly because this meta will be boring real soon, I can’t find enjoyment in squeeze the right trigger down for full fights for more than 2 hours.
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> It is only my opinion, I know that people are enjoying it right now but I am almost certain that even the people who are still enjoying it will get bored after a few weeks…
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> Please 343 I beg you, just need the AR a little bit and make precision weapons a little bit better than AR, almost all the matches I play nobody picks other weapons other than power weapons because there is no need, AR is better than almost every weapon on the map.

ar is just too powerful to be a starting weapon

Nobody picks other weapons other than power weapons because there is no need, AR is better than almost every weapon on the map

Even still, most of the power weapons aren’t even worth picking up compared to the AR…

Granted, on controller, using any other weapon is just gimping yourself at the moment with the minimal AA. Spray, pray, and wave your reticule back and forth until somebody dies.

You can still out shoot someone who has an AR with a BR but honestly I don’t think people WANT to be using the AR they just HAVE to to get any kills. The aiming is so wonky and its hard to adjust shots. So going with the weapon that has the biggest crosshair is the least they can do. I definitely feel like the AR still has too much power but also aiming is garbage compared to other shooters and previous Halo titles right now.

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> > The AR dominates the sandbox. I’m glad more people are talking about this after the 2nd flight
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> 100% it’s an AR, slide, melee meta and it’s not fun. Literally people charge at you with ar until they are in melee range then rinse and repeat.

Ah the old ar beat down from halo 3 is back. I won’t mention the bxb bug/feature. It’s literally fight night round halo.

I’ve been running into tons of people only using pistols so I haven’t experienced this personally, but I could just be super lucky.

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> > > 2533274947805189;7:
> > > The AR dominates the sandbox. I’m glad more people are talking about this after the 2nd flight
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> > 100% it’s an AR, slide, melee meta and it’s not fun. Literally people charge at you with ar until they are in melee range then rinse and repeat.
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> Ah the old ar beat down from halo 3 is back. I won’t mention the bxb bug/feature. It’s literally fight night round halo.

What’s bxb?

Its probably gonna get a little nerf at launch

good to see that the magnum is not a broken gun in this Halo

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> I’ve been running into tons of people only using pistols so I haven’t experienced this personally, but I could just be super lucky.
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> > > > The AR dominates the sandbox. I’m glad more people are talking about this after the 2nd flight
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> > > 100% it’s an AR, slide, melee meta and it’s not fun. Literally people charge at you with ar until they are in melee range then rinse and repeat.
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> > Ah the old ar beat down from halo 3 is back. I won’t mention the bxb bug/feature. It’s literally fight night round halo.
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> What’s bxb?

Melee, weapon switch, melee. Basically instant kill. People were basically just running and doing this yesterday in games, though not everyone obviously. I thought I read they have it fixed but don’t think it’s deployed in the flight, it wasn’t last night at least. I only played a little today and haven’t seen it.

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> Its probably gonna get a little nerf at launch
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> good to see that the magnum is not a broken gun in this Halo

The magnum is broken too what are you even talking about lol

I’m with you OP they really need to nerf the AR down a bit and improve the aiming across the board. They do this, turn back on collision and friendly fire, and maybe a couple of little tunes here and there I think we will be good to go.

i don’t understand why people are complaining about the AR. its so unreliable in this state its hilariously absurd. sometimes it kills reasonably after the shield pops an then other times you get 5 bullets on an unshielded an they just kill you. On the flip side, people with a mouse are just cross mapping you with a pistol no problem. actually EVERYBODY is running around with a pistol, swapping their AR for a BR or power weapon because the pistol is too reliably good to get rid of. AR the meta? yeah right, good luck even getting in close when a pistol is outgunning an AR in TTK.
aim assist on pad doesn’t even work at range, can’t even try an outgun them back.

i’m sorry but a pistol shouldn’t beat the AR in TTK. that makes zero sense. The pistol should be used as a finisher, not a primary, and definitely not a shield drainer.

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> are we playing the same game? the ar is the weakest gun in the game lol i get destroyed by needlers, 1 shot by shotguns, 2 shot by the laser gun, 4 shot by the pistol lol ar and pulse rifles take easily 20 bullets to kill someone…utter rudiculous

Well you are either caping or if you are really telling the truth you should open a ticket because you shouldn’t be dying to a shotgun in 1 shot. This shotgun takes 2 shot to kill, so you are either lying or it is a bug that you should show to the devs