The trailer really didn’t tell us anything, it just focused on the stuff on the ring rather then what the game will be about. (I know it will take place on a Halo ring, but I need a bit more then that). I mean after Halo 5, I don’t really trust 343 right now, also calling it Halo: Infinite instead of Halo 6: Infinite also doesn’t help me. (I just hate it when a sequel isn’t numbered, looking at you God of War)
I would give 343 another try with this one, it looks very promising. Although I have to agree, it is a bit odd that all we know about the game is that its featuring chief, 4 marines, a scouthog and the halo ring (Perhaps thats the whole cast of characters). And about the number thing I think its to avoid the situation Final Fantasy is in, you know how weird it would be to have a Halo: 22…
I think this is 343i finally giving in, listening to us, and finding a good way to make their Halo games. They’re not Bungie and they never will be. It’s just been a rough road for them trying to settle into the franchise and they’re finally starting to figure it out.
I think it’s good to be skeptical, less room for disappointment and better joy if they surprise you. I however like everything we’ve seen and know so I can’t help being cautiously optimistic lol
What’s with the number thing though? Why do you dislike that?
Well it was just a showcase of a new engine. So maybe we will be seeing more about the type and the setting of the game on some later date which couod be expected. Just nearer the release date.
And its not wrong to be sceptical but I wouldnt think much of the game just yet before the release is nearer and more stuff has been shown.
Healthy skepticism is fine. Too much hype based on too little info leads to unrealistic expectations and hurts gaming as a whole, imo. At the same time, assuming the worst off nothing is bad too. This teaser didn’t show us anything except a new engine and a title. Taken at face value, it doesn’t say anything about how good or bad the next game will be.
I am worried and am keeping my hopes on check. That said, I’m cautiously optimistic- not because it was a good engine demo (which it was), but because I’m certain 343i knows this is their last chance, and they’re as terrified of screwing it up as we are. That much is clear by the delayed release.
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> Healthy skepticism is fine. Too much hype based on too little info leads to unrealistic expectations and hurts gaming as a whole, imo. At the same time, assuming the worst off nothing is bad too. This teaser didn’t show us anything except a new engine and a title. Taken at face value, it doesn’t say anything about how good or bad the next game will be.
This.
For instance, people jumping to conclusions such as Infinity being open world are quite simply setting themselves up for disappointment.
Your skepticism is valid. If it helps, people have translated the morse code in the trailer and it mentions zeta halo, and zeta halo had structures where the master builder used humans to experiment with the flood, and between that, the return of the flood in hw2, and 343 seemingly taking a somewhat classic approach I feel there’s a chance the flood might appear at some point.
My biggest fear though is that it’s going to turn out to be 100% fan service and the story is going to feel like it’s copying the old games. A classic approach is a great idea but let’s not get carried away.
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> Your skepticism is valid. If it helps, people have translated the morse code in the trailer and it mentions zeta halo, and zeta halo had structures where the master builder used humans to experiment with the flood, and between that, the return of the flood in hw2, and 343 seemingly taking a somewhat classic approach I feel there’s a chance the flood might appear at some point.
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> My biggest fear though is that it’s going to turn out to be 100% fan service and the story is going to feel like it’s copying the old games. A classic approach is a great idea but let’s not get carried away.
I’m personally just tired of these 180s. Halo 4 took a completely different narrative direction and for the most part suceeded, then Halo 5 scrapped the running storylines in favor of something new that for the mostvpart failed. And now, again, we seem to be getting another reboot for the story. Frankly, it’s all very tiring. It definitely doesn’t feel like the Saga it was set up to be, and instead is a series of individual games that add up to a story lesser than the sum of its parts by a fair margin.
It does not feel like 343i had a long term plan, and if they did it’s pretty obvious that they didn’t stick to it. I’m not quite sure what to expect from the story, but I hope it at least adresses Halo 5’s ending properly instead of crapping out on it like 5 did to 4. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not any more of a fan of Halo 5’s story than any lore geek out there- but I still value the series’ continuity and another failure on that department would be proof that the Halo storyis no longer worth my time and investment.
i think we are all skeptical, Halo has no been a AAA franchise since like 2010. I think 343i knows that if this game doesn’t reinvigorate Halo, they are done.
Honestly I really wish it had the 6 in the title, just for the sake of continuity. I thought they would’ve dropped the numbers after this game. Perhaps it’s just me, but instead of losing my -Yoink- during the trailer I was questioning whether this was Halo 6 or just a strange spinoff.
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> Honestly I really wish it had the 6 in the title, just for the sake of continuity. I thought they would’ve dropped the numbers after this game. Perhaps it’s just me, but instead of losing my -Yoink- during the trailer I was questioning whether this was Halo 6 or just a strange spinoff.
I thought it was Tomb Raider with the sigils, and then Jurassic Park, and then a Jumangi game. The first time I realized it was Halo was when they showed Chief’s helmet lol
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> > Honestly I really wish it had the 6 in the title, just for the sake of continuity. I thought they would’ve dropped the numbers after this game. Perhaps it’s just me, but instead of losing my -Yoink- during the trailer I was questioning whether this was Halo 6 or just a strange spinoff.
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> I thought it was Tomb Raider with the sigils, and then Jurassic Park, and then a Jumangi game. The first time I realized it was Halo was when they showed Chief’s helmet lol
I suspected it was Halo when the view inside the tent showed UNSC-esque crates, but then I instantly recognized the interior of the Pelican. Then I lost my -Yoink-.
I’m skeptical too. So many people are hyping the game up based solely on a an engine demo, one thst spent more time showcasing animals than it did Chief or any UNSC personnel. No sign of the Covenant, so people who are claiming that the old art style is definitely back might yet be disappointed. It was an engine demo, and I’m not ready to form any opinion about the game based on such little information. I think the enthusiasm everyone had is a bit too much.
100% agree with the naming thing. I get that they want to abandon numbered titles, but don’t do it half way through a saga. Halo 4, Halo 5 Guardians and Halo Infinite. It should be none or all, not a mixmatch of numbered and unnumbered titles.
Its good to be skeptical in my opinion, for many of us this is 343s last chance. Personally I’m left really underwhelmed with what I saw. It’s a step in the right direction art wise but it comes off as pandering and it’s just jarring visually. I want canonical explanations for everything that’s happening because Halo 4 and 5 failed to do that when those games looked the way they did.
And as much as the graphics look like they’re a step up, (there are still other games that look better. And the graphics fidelity seemed to have dropped during the Warthog section of the trailer.) I’m starting to not dig the photorealism look of it so far. Games like Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy, Wolfenstein, Doom or Halo of old, they looked realistic but also had a very distinct and stylized edge to them. So I think it’s another graphical departure from halo ce-3 to 4-5 til now. But that’s an opinion of mine and I’m sure others disagree, though I’m just happy to once again have a clean image without all the post-processing garbage cluttering the screen/image.
Also to add, why is the perspective of the Halo Ring at the end of the trailer so MESSED UP?! The mountains (which aren’t even in the foreground. DWARF the continents in background on the ring. I hope it’s just a stylized thing for the trailer, it just looks bad and amateurish.
Gameplay and story direction though is the big factor for many of us too, and I’m honestly surprised they didn’t show any or mention how its going to ultimately be. A pretty game that plays horrid isnt going to go over well. I’m a Lore Head and Halo 5 singlehandidly killed my love for the lore… every book since then feels like it has been nothing but retconning and using fan theories to try and fix things. And after Halo 5, the lore has been broken that theres no way of fixing it unless you once again do what the last three games have done and heavily retcon everything… and that doesn’t sound fun at all but that’s the only thing left to do. But I hope to God that theres no time travel involved. That is all.
Oh and I personally hate the title, Bonnie Ross and those who say it sounds ridiculous that Final Fantasy sounds stupid because the numbered titles go up to 15 have obviously never played any of those games. If they did they’d know Final Fantasy is a compendium of stories, each game telling a different story every time from alternate or similar universes. The titling of Halo now reminds of Call of Duty and now Battlefield too, but like the FF series; those games are also a compendium of stories.
It doesn’t work for Halo because halo is one long continuity, one consistent story, ridding the numbers from the titles does nothing but muddy the waters. It boggles my mind the amount of casual people from the outside think Halo 5: Guardians is a spinoff… and with how bad the story was in that game and the fact Chief took a backseat in it; it might as well be considered one. I want them to finish the Chiefs story arc as numbered titles and then drop them for subtitles ONLY after that fact.
Its GOOD to be skeptical, I was too naive and was hyped for Halo 4 and 5 (I loved H4, but multiplayer needed to be re-hauled a bit.) and I got burned… BAD. So I feel like you and many of us are warranted to how we feel, but it’s also good to be optimistic. We as a community can change things, we just have to continue to be vocal and not just sing praise unless praise is due. And of right now, it’s WAY too early. The art style of the trailer is just smoke and mirrors right now and theres still way more important factors at play here that are still in the shadows such as launch content, content in general, gameplay, story, microtransactions, and split screen.
Another criticism I’d give to the title is that “Infinite” doesn’t seem it’d have anything to do with the story nor does it seem like it means anything. Or maybe I’m wrong and Cortana will bring peace to the galaxy by using the Infinity Stones and Halo to wipe out half of all life.
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> Another criticism I’d give to the title is that “Infinite” doesn’t seem it’d have anything to do with the story nor does it seem like it means anything.
Yeah the numerical systems work great. I’m so excited to get the sequel to the fifteenth Battlefield installment titled “Battlefield 1,” where the sequel is the sixteenth entry and titled “Battlefield 5.” Numbers are much less confusing /s
Numbers don’t lend themselves well to long franchises, and Halo is officially a long franchise. I am perfectly fine with them never having a number in there again 
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> Yeah the numerical systems work great. I’m so excited to get the sequel to the fifteenth Battlefield installment titled “Battlefield 1,” where the sequel is the sixteenth entry and titled “Battlefield 5.” Numbers are much less confusing /s
> Numbers don’t lend themselves well to long franchises, and Halo is officially a long franchise. I am perfectly fine with them never having a number in there again
My issue is that it comes in the middle of an ongoing saga. Just a personal nitpick though. I hoped Halo would’ve dropped numbers after at least 6. Maybe they didn’t do the 6 because they couldn’t find a way to make the number look nice in a logo.
I’m mostly afraid that their sole focus is to pandering. I think the last Halo game that had a proper vision and wasn’t affected by either other titles, fan backlash or critic backlash was Halo Reach- and that was way back in 2010. Since then, its been a rollercoaster of bandwaggons with sadly more downs than ups, and the series has plummeted into insignificance.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if Infinity doesn’t send the series in a very clear upwards trajectory, the series will simply crash and burn. Unfortunately, franchises of this scale usually suffer long and painful deaths. Some may argue that this has been the case since Halo Reach, and that Halo has been dying that long and painful death for years now- but I still think it has a place in the industry and could potentially hold a niche community.
What is certain is that it would take a miracle to put Halo back in the same league as the other major franchises it will come up against. But that has more or less been the case since the original Modern Warfare released and Halo 3’s glory days were done.
Personally, story is the most important thing for me but on that department my expectations have never been lower. 343i have written themselves into a corner by committing to the contrived and uninteresting Created arc, and I don’t expect to enjoy what will most likely be a very ugly attempt to wrap that story up as fast as possible. I think Infinity will be more of a retread of Combat Evolved story-wise than it will be a sequel to Halo 5, but either way I don’t expect to be happy with the results. Not only is it uninteresting, but it’s also entirely predictable. And if we’re going to get another emotional Cortana death scene- I’m sorry 343i, but you’re fired.
On the subject of multiplayer (our shining ray of hope) I enjoy arena gameplay and there are pretty much no console games that I’m aware of other than Halo 5 which offer this experience. I’m assuming Halo 6 will not undo that, since 343i implied as much, though with them you can never know. Its one hell of a rollercoaster, and when your game’s vision is more concerned with what people want than any solid idea… I won’t be surprised to see Halo Infinity focus on some Battle Royale mode.
Warzone, while fun, is not something I expect to see in Halo 6. Simply because 343i have so far never stuck to their guns on a single thing they’ve brought into the Halo franchise. Remember Regicide? Yeah, that mode actually existed- but like everything else it got smashed to dust by 343i’s pendulum wrecking ball of destructive decision making. Warzone is next, I’m willing to bet.
If there’s one success that’s certain to carry over, it’s Forge. Halo 5’s Forge was groundbreaking. It was really THAT good. It was so good that the community ran out of ideas, because all of them were already implememted in the game. It was so good that I wouldn’t blame them for reusing assets. If Infinity’s Forge is 75% of what 5’s was, we’d all still be happy campers.