I played a game of strongholds yesterday. I captured 3 zones and went 17/5. One of the players in my team captured 3 zones and went 1/5. The other two went 1 zone each and 0/5 and 0/6. The score was 200:3
Matchmaking at its finest.
(343 employee - “it’s the Geofencers fault!” or, alternatively “look, cat ears!”)
Maybe hit the air brakes on that elitism and ableism combo.
Bot bootcamp is a great playlist to learn how to play. But I genuinely don’t remember if the game recommends it to you at first. And since we can’t change the difficulty on the bots in that, and someone new might not know how to set up a custom game with high difficulty bots to practice, we have what we have right now, which is (ideally) people coming from bot bootcamp practice with Marine level bots to playing against actual players with quite a bit of difficulty step up between those. Until they change or let us decide which difficulty we want to fight in that, that’s still going to be an issue in social lists.
If it bothers you so much, someone above suggested an LFG to find players on your similar level to party up with. Meanwhile, as we wait for 343 to make much needed changes,… i dunno. Maybe get yourself a warm drink. Check your blood pressure. Take a break. Remember it’s a game, and maybe other people aren’t as super smart and special at it as you are. And maybe don’t be an assmunch about that.
He’s not having a go at the Derps he’s carrying, he’s having a go at the Devs who developed such a garbage matchmaking system and have not said one thing about attempting to fix it. It’s broken, and he’s right. The scores aren’t eliteism, they’re examples of how badly it’s broken. That’s the entire sub text of this thread and many others.
Well it sure looks to me like it’s both. Yeah, they need to fix a lot of things. But being jerks to other players while you’re asking for those changes isn’t it.
@B4D_S3CTOR I’m not disagreeing that the matchmaking needs fixed. I’m saying you don’t need to tear other players down in order to make your point. And 343 is dragging their -Yoink!- with the fixes, so what we have right now is what it’s going to be for a hot minute, so I don’t see what calling new and unskilled players ‘lukewarm glasses of water’ who ‘dont have the mental faculties to put together a 2 piece jigsaw’ does for the situation. That’s also going to discourage people from trying to start playing.
In game I’m not. I try to be supportive, I give callouts, I try to back my team mates up, I even drop them power weapons when I can.
If not longer. Its going to be three months before they fix simple graphical errors as in the community managers words they are too focused on season 2 content, presumably paid content at that.
That’s on me, my bad, I was venting.
Although I doubt anyone comes to peruse the forums before trying a free to play game, at this point and given the state of Infinite, I honestly feel like putting people off from playing it is doing them a solid.
Still weird that I need an outside app to add friends for a game… I think most games have some system integrated.
Yeah it’s definitely not intuitive and should be accessible from in-game. Took a while to figure it out myself 
That’s good to hear honestly. I suppose I was venting myself, too many people being condescending assholes in game for no good reason. Sorry for being an -Yoink!-.
Great attitude to have when the player population decreases and there is less support for this game.
I’m sorry to bro. Hope you have a great day!
Big facts on this for sure. Like it’s truly astonishing watching Diamonds go 2 and 15 in a objective game. 343 bots do better than that…
Here are a few suggestions how people can “learn” without dragging down everyone else in their team:
Do you have any clue how few people have (or use) a headset?
Even in ranked the majority doesn’t give a rodent’s rear about call outs and communicating.
“Punished for being good” is more paranoid than fact. Match making is not punishing you, it’s just how things go sometimes. You’ll have winning streaks as well.
People new to the halo franchise might not know about the custom settings. People might be you know, having to spend money on groceries and are looking for something free to play. Sometimes your friends can be people who don’t like the same games as you, and that’s fine.
I always recommend boot camp and weapons drills. They’re great! I’ve played all of the halo games except 5 myself, and still found them very useful because a lot of the weapons are new or have different ‘feels’ or functions to them. But again not every new player is going to know about it.
I was also talking about in-game text chat. I use it often and people seem to see it but I don’t see a lot of others using it. You’re correct. It would be nice if more people were on mic, used text chat, or at least used markers, the latter of which would solve any language barrier issues since everyone will see the mark in their own set language.
But lastly. Do you have any clue how easy it is to just. Take a step back. Be chill. And maybe remind your teammates to use markers, or, hey, here’s an idea, set an example for them by using them yourself! Use mic chat, use text chat, use markers. They’ll get the idea. I’ve had matches where people only started using them after I did.
this is a multiplayer game. If you want a specific experience centered around you, go play the campaign. You have GOT to learn to work with other people. It’s literally no different in real life. Everyone works differently so you have to figure out how to use your own strengths to work efficiently. Some people don’t pull their own weight. Some people need help. Some people are new. And with no lobbies there’s no good way to tell which is which.
Also this thread is a month old I was hoping anyone looking at it these days would have read the whole thing instead of replying to early posts with issues others in the thread have already gone over.