So what? Every halo before infinite has co-op including CE which was back in 2001 and a game that got released 20 years later with the most advanced technology for gaming right now in 2021 doesn’t have co-op for campaign. That defeats the whole open world with friends aspect right now.
For the save file they can just have it tied to the host as its HOST PROGRESS LIKE EVERY OTHER OPEN WORLD CO-OP GAME DOES. UBISOFT DOES IT ALL THE TIME WITH THERE’S AND THEY ARE ALWAYS MAKING OPEN WORLD GAMES.
Its 343s choice if they want to make player 2, 3 and 4 tethered to the host but since they’re doing open world now and not linear missions it would be wise for them to not make players tethered to the host.
UBISOFT made Ghost Recon: Wildlands back in 2017 that was 5 years ago. Other players were not tethered to the host in his or her save file also players joined with the stuff and equipment they had on there character from their save file.
They could do this with infinite make others join starting with ar and pistol but they can fast travel to a FOB and from their own progress from that characters save file call in vehicles and weapons to use with their friend who haven’t unlocked stuff yet and use the vehicle to get back or fast travel on host.
If you think oh thats just going to ruin the experience literally Wildlands allows players who have finished a game to join friends who are just starting and even with everything they unlocked it doesn’t change with how the game is played at all. Its still fun, tactical and gets chaotic at times. Literally nothing changes with how advanced you are.
Also within Wildlands other players that make progress on a hosts session applies to that character for when they choose to go solo. So they can continue where they left on co-op if they choose to go solo because of the progress that was made. 343 can also do this with infinite’s campaign.
And I believe Wildlands was also a Live Service game.
So what you claim with this ^^^^ shouldn’t be an issue for 343 to solve for co-op when UBISOFT DID IT 5 YEARS AGO WITH WILDLANDS. THE ANSWER TO THERE PROBLEM WAS ALREADY FOUND BY SOMEONE ELSE.
I can strongly say from what I’ve seen in the forums that there’s a lot more people unhappy not being able to play the campaign with friends and family than those who enjoy playing campaign solo.
I enjoy both co-op and solo. My first playthrough is always solo the second is co-op.
How is them adding Part 2 and 3 of the main story later the fun part for there 10 year plan for infinite?
I paid $60 for the campaign A LOT OF PEOPLE did just to find out the campaign isn’t even finished. The main story for infinite isn’t done it’ll be complete when Part 3 is released but no one knows when Part 2 will be released.
343 releasing part 2 and 3 of infinite’s main story is not DLC.
Hypothetical situation: When 343 releases Part 2 and 3 of the main campaign they better not slap price tags on it. I won’t purchase it I already spent $60 on a part of the campaign that can be speedrunned in 14 mins.
What would count as DLC for like $15 - $20 are side stories that add on to infinite’s story for example:
A story of Blue Team on Zeta after the loss of infinity.
Arbiter and his swords of sanghelios trying to survive after cortana EMP the Milky way.
Osiris Team after Locke getting beheaded.
Maybe playing of one of the spartans in Griffins squad that made Landfall after the loss of infinity months before the pilot found and woke up chief.
Now that is DLC material not Part 2 and 3 of the main story that people paid $60 for to only find out you’re playing a portion because 343 wasn’t able to fully complete it so they had to break up the full campaign into 3 parts to finish it.
And don’t say “343 had to delay because of covid” because that covid delay was there 2nd delay and I don’t blame them for that because that effected EVERYONE. But 343 delayed infinite back in 2019 before they released the 2019 Demo because of us halo fans like you and I wanting 343 to take more time and not release an unfinished game which they ended up doing anyway. Also before they released the DEMO and put up that 1st delay 343 was literally going to release infinite in 2019.
And you see how unfinished it is now imagine how bad it would’ve been back in 2019.
Again another hypothetical situation if 343 didn’t release campaign and waited to complete part 2 and 3 and drop the FULL campaign later then Infinite right now would only be an incomplete multiplayer game with many bugs.
Thats not how you speedrun Infinite’s current incomplete campaign in 14 mins.
Cheaters and speedrunners are not on the same level.
Cheaters manipulate the game to their advantage
Speedrunners find alternative and interesting exploits within a game that doesn’t alter the games coding to bypass situations.
And some of those exploits the speedrunners found in infinite are actually very fun and I hope 343 doesn’t remove it.
A typical speedrunner doesn’t fly around and noclip through walls and if they are doing that they are no longer speedrunning they are cheating.
And there’s no way you can say I’m being negative and toxic when I just gave some feedback of ideas to be used for co-op and possible ideas for DLC in infinite.
You must have good ping… us regular players are having just a horrible time 20/45/45/45/45/60/70/20 those are my games not fun when you Br feels like a paintball gun and hit detection doesn’t work… yeah fun
so far i know any open world game i have play has no Co-op.
there are game’s that have open world are only singel player.
or there are game’s that have open world that have a singel player option and multiplayer open world option.
so far i have see open world game’s there is not 1 that has Co-op fuction in there open world so its not that easy to do it.
what will happing if there chance host then?
what will happing if its a diffrend team member that is join in the Co-op and not the same one?
that are type things there need to look in to first what will happing.
you know 343 is using a custome game engine there have make from scrap.
and what is ubisoft using for wildlands there own custom game engine also what is compleet diffrend then from the one 343 is using for halo infinite.
maybe there are a lot off players that are happy about it that the can play the campaign all is it solo but are not comming to the forums or post.
the forum post’s tell notting any more if there are a lot not happy about things or are happy about things.
its easy.
since if its comming later out you can explore things that are there now and try then in the new missions out from the start.
have you been sleeping under a rock or so.
if you have follow the news about the campaign in the past few years then you know it was not becoming compleet at launch since there told all when there show things in the campaign that there going to add DLC’s expensions in the campaign also and you have now is only something small and that later in time you get more and more place’s to go.
thats something you can know from the start if you have follow it but it seems some people have not follow it so thats your own fault if you not know about it since there have told it in the trailer from the campaign few years ago.
thats something nobody knows.
same go’s for the mutliplayer maps nobody knows if there are free or you need to pay for it.
who tells you its only 3 parts.
there can release 9 campaign dlc’s for my part so long its keeping on for a long time by adding new content.
and then players are going to complain there wane playing the campaign now and not wait 5 or 6 years for it any more.
since its only you that are complaining about the campaign more there are a lot that are having a blast with the campaign so that you are not happy about it is your problem there are people that are super happy with the campaign there is now and later on when there is more new content coming its only become more and more fun then it was in the older boring halo game’s with there basic standart missions that never get new one’s.
show me then the video since if i look on youtube there is only a 25.51 mins speed run and notting below that.
i still give no crap about any speed runners and like i told a lot off others give also no crap about then.
if there wane speed run the game fast in a few mins there can do that its not my problem.
i have a blast in the campaign mode since i have found a lot off things out you can do in the campaign in diffrend way’s and also defeat some bosses super fast same if there are hell off a big problem on legendary mode.
since i have compleet my 6th time campaign play on legendary with more some test’s if you can kill some other boss’s in few sec’s that are a big problem if you follow the basic way more and if some cool tricks are working fine or not.
then you are maybe on the wrong thread friend since this a thread about having a BLAST and not about complain about co-op or any campaign thing.
if you wane complain about it and give your bad feedback about it then look for a thread there have make for it where you can give you bad feedback about it.
but to post it on a posetive thread about the game is wrong on so much levels.
Really are you only playing Assassins Creed and Skyrim? Because there’s a lot more open world games that allow Co-op.
Open World games with Co-op:
AC: UNITY (2014)
TC: GR: WILDLANDS (2017)
TC: GR: BREAKPOINT (2019)
FARCRY 3 (2012)
FARCRY 4 (2014)
FARCRY 5 (2018)
FARCRY 6 (2021)
MINECRAFT (2011)
DYING LIGHT (2015)
DYING LIGHT 2 (2022)
STATE OF DECAY 2 (2018) (MICROSOFT EXCLUSIVE)
SAINTS ROW 2 (2008)
SAINTS ROW 3 (2011)
SAINTS ROW 4 (2013)
SAINTS ROW: GAT OUT OF HELL (2015)
WATCH DOGS 2 (2016)
CRACKDOWN (2007) (MICROSOFT EXCLUSIVE)
CRACKDOWN 2 (2010) (MICROSOFT EXCLUSIVE)
CRACKDOWN 3 (2019) (MICROSOFT EXCLUSIVE)
DEADRISING 3 (2013)
DEAD ISLAND (2011)
DEAD ISLAND RIPTIDE (2013)
These are open world co-op games and the games within this small list don’t include any MMOs that have co-op. I say small list because there are A LOT more games to list than what I just gave.
And a lot of these are open world co-op shooters with a mix of melee combat within it.
These games that I listed allowed this ESPECIALLY THE MICROSOFT EXCLUSIVE GAMES HAD THIS WAY BEFORE INFINITE WAS A THOUGHT to allow other players to join friends games with their guns and equipment from their save file, it wasn’t just a Ubisoft thing.
ESPECIALLY CRACKDOWN 1 and 2 had this during the 360 era in Halo 3s Glory Days and Reach and when Crackdown 1 had this it came with the Halo 3 Beta.
All these games had this solution from 360 to xbox one to now before infinite. There’s no way that 343 could struggle this hard for co-op when the other Microsoft exclusive companies solved that problem of how save files worked for people joining in other peoples games years ago.
But a lot of the older games (other than minecraft) had that tether thing to keep players near the host during 360 into early and mid xbox one era and my theory as for that purpose is how the technology was back then. Farcry still follows that tether thing even now but some of the newer open world co-op games don’t do that anymore because technology has advanced.
Yeah no wonder you think that I found from your profile that has you’re name with a gamerscore of 35k and your pfp of a mountain emitting a green light that the games you played are:
Racing games such as:
Forza
Need for speed
Sonic all stars
A lot of FPS from:
EA Battlefront 1
Halo
Call of Duty
A dancing game
Some fighting games
Some Naruto games (which idk if those are fighting games or open world because I’ve never played them.)
Force unleashed 1 and 2 which I don’t label as open world games, yes they are single player games but the missions are linear with some open areas to explore within them to find collectibles and I am not bashing Force Unleashed because those are very great games.
And GTA 4 the only game out of all you’ve played that has an open world singleplayer campaign with an open world playground of a multiplayer that was and is full of modders who take pride on their LB and RB “skills” of flying the buzzard.
Well just like every other open world game even the one I just labeled both players characters make progress. This also happens with the linear campaign playthroughs of Halo from 360, MCC, Halo 5 and Halo wars 2. Its already been done on those HALOS.
And if the host moves on with someone else the previous guy doesn’t lose progress because what what was made before is saved to the character they will continue to play from where they last left off not from the beginning.
I even stated this answer on the previous reply that you just replied too.
Yeah I know they made a whole new engine for infinte and its 10 year plan to follow with it for awhile now this isn’t new to me. To some they already new this and I say some because there are some people I’ve spoken to that didn’t know about it.
You’re right the engines that 343 and Ubisoft use are different but the coding behind it to make the save files work on making players have progress in co-op and bringing stuff from one persons save into another persons game wouldn’t change either.
The coding would be different if there was different elements and principles behind it but this is basic stuff from my experience of the many games I’ve played especially the ones that are open world with co-op.
You may say that I don’t know how the coding works behind it. I’m currently in a coding class that I’ve been taking for a couple of months now. As projects that have been graded I’ve made fake working hospital websites, vet websistes, restaurant websites, market websites like Target, Amazon, Walmart etc.
And the point I’m making with that is each of those websites have their own different elements, principles and functionalities but the coding behind it to make those things work is all the same. Do I know everything about coding of course not thats why I’m taking the class to learn everything of coding.
There are a great amount of people that haven’t come to the forums to express their opinion whether they like the game or not for sure.
But when people do you have others talking against that person’s opinion like for the people who you label as being negative and toxic to 343 that make posts regarding issues and bugs within the game get people who agree on those bugs being present and then there are others who say Infinite is a great game and that they are lying and bashing 343 for no reason but they provide no explanation or proof as to why.
And when people make so called “positive” posts you’re also going to get people who disagree and point out the present bugs and those people who address the issues get labled as being negative and toxic.
How do you think the lowering of the overpricing store prices was achieved for $20 bundles of a nameplate, emblem, 1 color for only 1 of the 3 armor cores and 1 or 2 armor pieces was achieved? By the same people who addressed the issues that you guys label as being negative and toxic you’re welcome for that btw.
I’m sorry, umm WHAT!?!?!?!?!!!??
That is not easy or great that the main story got chopped up into 3 parts because they couldn’t finish it on time. Like I stated previously the campaign is currently incomplete it will be done when part 3 is released but we don’t even know when Part 2 will be released.
I actually have been up to date with the news regarding 343 and infinite’s current incomplete bugged state. Thats is why I know what is wrong with the game. Not just from heresay but from experience of playing the game and running into the similar issues that people keep addressing. There are many people like me after completing the campaign felt that there is still so much of the main campaign missing from the game which there is its called PART 2 AND PART 3 HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS!?
I’ve watched the vidocs they released up to infinite’s launch and everything that 343 has said they are planning on doing along with a road map that they promise they have and haven’t showed it once. Which leads me to believe and many people that they have no roadmap they are currently just winging it they say they do because if they address they don’t people will be very angry.
And we are very unhappy of 343 releasing another halo that is incomplete, after the 2 delays and years they spent on making infinite along with them promising they won’t repeat the mistakes of Halo 5 and yet they are doing it again.
Thank you captain obvious thats why I said “Hypothetical situation”. You do know what that means right?
Who told me the main campaign is 3 parts? 343 SAID ITS 3 PARTS HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??? 343 said Part 2 is called: The Endless and Part 3 is still unknown.
You try to insult me but you don’t even know things and you’re calling me toxic and negative. YEAH OK bud
The funny thing with you is how you contradict yourself.
You say:
You talk about DLC expansions but you go on to quote me and say:
You say they are going to have DLC expansions for infinite but you go on to say we don’t know if they’ll be paid for.
You literally answered your question and my hypothetical situation of not knowing if Part 2 and 3 will be paid for. Because games that have released a DLC expansion is always paid for MMO games do it all the time and those DLC expansions are added after the main campaign of the game not as continuations of the main story.
I strongly disagree that people would’ve wanted it now maybe I’m sure people are willing to wait another 2 or 3 years for infinite to be released in its finished state hoping it would be finished by then. But if it was to go on fro 4 - 6 years after the 3 year mark then people might start to get impatient but who knows after all the community told 343 to take more time making infinite which is why it got its first delay. I was one of those many people that said to 343 to take more time making it.
After what we got with MCC back in 2014 and HALO 5 in 2015 we didn’t want another repeat of another incomplete bugged Halo but 343 gave that to us anyway.
And I said 2 to 3 years because that is what people are speculating of when infinite will be fixed and those numbers aren’t just randomly picked it took 343 4 years to fix MCCs multiplayer back in 2018 when they released Reach with crossplay and 2- 3 years to fix Halo 5s bugged state.
I am not the only one discussing issues with the campaign there are many people addressing it.
Not once have I said I’m not happy with it I actually enjoy it a lot more than Halo 5s campaign what I have been saying which I have to keep repeating to you is that the campaign is incomplete and lacks some things.
You can call the linear halo missions from CE - 5 boring all you want but they were fun and I still have fun replaying them other than 5 of course I did a 1 and done on that.
I still find little new things within each mission that I didn’t notice before but at least I can replay those missions at any time I want you can even replay missions in Halo wars 1 and 2, Spartan assault and spartan strike. With infinite if you want to replay a mission you have to start up a whole new campaign again.
I was wrong of the 14 mins I don’t know where that number came from the speedrun time is 29 mins and its with the pelican glitch to fly over to the endgame area and fight Jega and Escharum.
But still that is a ridiculous fast time to beat the campaign under half an hour.
Ok good for you good to know you enjoy it.
And ok good to know you are doing tests to kill bosses in different ways on legendary why you are telling me this I don’t know.
No I’m on the right thread pal, if you can’t handle someone giving their opposing opinion on the game then why are you here on the forums?
Its just like commenting on social media if you can’t handle it then why are you on it?
There have been threads people posted that gave feedback of issues within the game that you guys would label as negative and toxic and people like you would reply with your fanatic blinding positivity of the game being great and not having issues when there is video evidence showing the issues then deny that isn’t true.
Why don’t you tell those people to go spread that blinding positivity to other threads about blindly defending 343. Its literally the same thing as you’re telling me to go to a negative thread.
You can like Infinite all you want NOT ONCE have I said you can’t enjoy it but you can’t blindly ignore the issues within it because how will the game grow into an enjoyable fixed state if you guys refuse to address the bugs, that is how it dies.
Its very ironic that the people who point out, address and show issues of the game (wanting the game to grow into a fixed enjoyable state) are being called negative and toxic by the people who will blindly defend and ignore the issues of the game whom give no feedback and you guys say we give no feedback thats cute.
Again like I said before you’re welcome for the lowering of the overpriced store prices in infinite that was our handiwork from us addressing the issue and giving the necessary feedback now you guys who spread blinding positivity can buy stuff at a cheaper price.
I could understand no split screen co-op, as I imagine with the level of graphics in current gen games, the consoles would struggle to render the open world twice (I don’t really know the correct terminology!)
But doing it online “should” be relatively feasible, right?
i have never play the game’s you have in the list so no comment on then since i not have play then and also not going to do.
have only play forza maybe 2 time’s and after that i have never play it since it was a free game with the xbox i got.
sonic all starts also play maybe 2 time’s.
need for speed has singel player only and no co-op and has a multiplayer option.
payback has only singel player and no co-op has also a multiplayer option in the open world.
heat has only singel player and also multiplayer option in the open world.
halo no comment since we both know it all.
COD has for so far there have campaign in there game’s co-op function but only Black Ops 4 has it not since it has no campaign since it was replace with a BR so that is not counting.
need for speed serie’s have only basic missions no expensions that was after payback more but it was only solo.
same for heat 1 expension with few missions you only need to compleet solo.
for the Cod titels is the same reason as for the old halo titels since it was basic missions and no DLC for the missions in the campaing you get so is not counting.
halo infinite has open world and gets Campaing DLC’s so thats the first big shooter that has a open world campaign where there keep adding new missions in the game and not staying with the basic one’s.
there are now a lot off things that have been find.
warthog,razoback,rockethog fly trick.
the OP Sniper Back.
Rocket Back.
scorpoin gun.
fusion coil pile trick.
coil jump trick.
use a warthog and razorback to defeat chak 'Lok.
scorpoin tank vs Bassus.
Chopper VS Bassus.
how to defeat escharum in few sec’s without scorpoin gun.
how to defeat Jega 'Rdomnai in few sec’s.
where the hidding spot is on the small room with the 2 hunters in the last mission.
how to defeat adjutant resolution part 2 on legendary what easyer and what for weapons you need more.
how to defeat Tremonius in a few sec’s.
airstrike easter egg.
and a lot off other easter egg’s have been fond.
i can keep on with the list how much there have been done all and thats a lot.
then i have miss that part then.
but still things can chance that there are more parts coming after part 3.
see its with a glitch so then can all players do it super easy when there use that type glitch and like i told before all that there most use any type glitch since you cant do it that fast by complete all the missions fast in 14 mins.
wow still give no crap about it.
since i have not play mutliplayer yet only 1 match and thats all.
since like a lot off other players we are waiting to play multiplayer after there chance the crossplay system since there are people like me that not wane play with PC players or pc players that not wane play with xbox players.
and really i am only going to buy things from the store if there are selling the 4 armor set’s i wane have the other stuff i give really no crap about it.
since i only care about the fotus armor set, prefect armor set,ricochet armor set and venator armor set.
that are the only 4 armor set’s i care about to remake my halo 4 spartan again in halo infinite the other armor parts i give no crap about.
for weapon skins i give no crap about i am all happy with the campaign one’s you can get.
so the store is something i give really notting about what there wane do with it so long i can buy the 4 armor set’s i need to remake my old Spartan from halo 4 i am all happy with it.
I’m really enjoying the game as well. Genuinely think the gameplay is just so fun. So props to 343 for that. I think they got the halo dna back in to the series for this one.
Will continue to feed back things that aren’t working, eg. Ranked issues, and the rampant monetisation of basic features that were in halo 3 for free.
My feeling is that the guys who designed the gameplay and maps, and weapons deserve all my gratitude. But to the corporates making the decisions on pricing, store and strategy…. Well, you guys should look for a new job, because you aren’t fit to run this franchise
Is campaign any good? I can’t get past Mission 5. Every time I get to that mission and try to complete any objective, the game freezes up. I have tried it on multiple consoles, multiple game discs, multiple accounts and Mission 5 is impossible to complete.
