> Thanks for your post. Sorry to say, but no i dont feel CE ‘deserves’ an XBL release. The fact is, its been ten years and the world has moved on, why do people want to throw ten years of interation and improvement on multiplayer by bungie out the window now? We all had great times playing CE multiplayer with our bros at LANs, but that time has passed now and is but a fond memory that frankly i would rather remain unsullied by a half hearted re-release just because the community demanded it without thinking it through. Look towards the future!
> Also you distinction between xbox connect network infrastructure and XBL infra doesent make any sense, both models use P2P hosting for gameplay. Using your PC to bridge through makes no difference and XBL has no ‘expensive servers’. The difference is in the netcode, which is what bungie has spent ten years improving and is not something that can be just bolted onto the side of CEA by november. Its not something that should just be discarded on a whim either. Seriously, if 343 tried to do this, it would make people literally cry because it would NOT be the same multiplayer experience you remember, it would be just a shadow of it. Understand it is physically impossible for 343i to replicate the CE LAN experience over XBL. The differences in lag and latency between a LAN environment and the internet are absolutely immutable by the laws of physics itself! Applaud 343i for recognizing this fact and deciding to leave the experience untouched, just like theyre trying to do with the campaign. Oh and yes CE was the highest rated, but thats not necessarily because it was the best game of the series (even though it probably was), thats because it was the first game in the series, new and fresh. Youll find subsequent games in any franchise generally garner lower review scores than the previous one by virtue of not being a new concept anymore. Also i would apprecient it if someone could tell me how to do paragraphs on these forums.
> > To: Fatal Factor
> > Think about what you’re saying. You’re glad that they’re not including original Halo CE multiplayer in the anniversary release of Halo CE. That just doesn’t make any sense. The fan base of Halo has been split since Halo 2 came out in 2004. Halo Reach has already not been as succesful as other Halo games by its own doing. It’s time to move on. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think Halo Reach is terrible like some people are saying it is, but I do think that Halo CE’s multiplayer is far superior due to a significantly less number of imperfections.
> > There are players who like to play Halo 2, Halo 3, and Halo Reach and then there are players who support the original which is the highest rated Halo title and FPS ever released along with Perfect Dark both with 97 metacritic scores. There is a reason for that, because it had an amazing campaign, and more importantly a multiplayer mode via local split screen and system link that people are still playing today including myself. Bungie was planning on releasing it with xbox live support back in the day but ran out of time and 343i is making the same mistake, but this time, they’ve had 10 years to think about it. I know 343i hasn’t existed for 10 years, but I’m assuming most of the employees at 343i are dedicated Halo players and so they probably thought about how sweet it would be to play Halo CE on xbox live at some point within that 10 year period.
> > Don’t you think that Halo CE original multiplayer deserves xbox live support? That is what Halo CE dedicated players have been asking for for the last 10 years.
> > Halo CE is the only Halo title that doesn’t have xbox live support for player v player multiplayer. Halo 3: ODST doesn’t count because that game wasn’t really a full Halo experience in my opinion and didn’t have Player v Player multiplayer anyways.
> > I played a fair share of games on XBC and yeah it was somewhat laggy, but that was using my own PC as the server for the connection in 2003, and even with the lag, it was far more fun than playing Halo Reach on dedicated expensive servers on xbox live. I think the people asking for the original multiplayer to be xbox live compatible in the petition would be happy if it was at least slightly better than that. By the way, I’m 28. I’m not some kid that is uneducated in what is possible in Halo CE. I’m also a game developer myself which makes it that much more painful for me to see 343i mess up like this because I want the company who is holding the future of the Halo franchise to succeed.
> > This is their first chance to prove that they can fix what Bungie ignored for the last 10 years.
Please Please Please tell me what part of the CE lan experience can not be replicated online? If you are referring to leading shots I would liek to point out the Halo 3 sniper rifle. At long ranges you had to lead your shots same with the H3 BR. All they would have to do is copy paste H3 sniper for CE sniper, and make the Pistol work the same way the H3 Brs 2nd bullet in the burst fired.
I dont know a damn thing about coding but i will say if it has been done before it can be done again especially considering that Reachs netcode is just an updated version of H3s. If the H3 solution could not be done they could have just made everything hitscan and had a pop-up when you go online matchmaking with a brief message saying due to online intigration hit scan has been added. Then they could have another link like if you press why for a genuine in depth analysis as to why the CE LAN emulation system was a technological impossibility.
You speak as if making CE online is akin to sending a man to jupiter. An exaggeration of course but the point remains. Sure some things would be compromised but it wouldnt be game destroying. I mean anything they did to emulate CE battle wouldnt be as bad as sprinting doubel beatdowns, no bleed through, invincibility button or bloom.
I really think fans would have been ok with hitscan to replace that aspect of CE if thoroughly and intelligently explained to them IN GAME and leading up to launch.
What fans are most pissed off about is the fact that ther is NO multiplayer attempt at all. What makes it worse is that they feel that Reach can somehow make it up to us which makes it seem that they dont listen to us, even after they say they do which even makes it worse.
In short there is nothing in CE that cannot be amended for online play. At this point with the travesty that is reach ANYTHING would be an improvement.