This is incredible. If Bungie had made the game everybody would kissing their butts, but only because 343i did it everybody hates it, come on guys grow up, the game looks amazing and It isn’t look anything like CoD. Stop being such a hater community, 343i is doing an amazing job.
I don’t think that’s the reason… is it? Especially after a certain game’s release.
That’s not it. Bungie released a heaping trash heap called Destiny and I don’t see many people kissing their feet about it
Bungie made reach and although the discontent was not as loud as early with reach that was because halo fans were first experiencing a different style of play to ‘classic’ halo. What you’re seeing now is discontent based on a poor experience with H4 and what appears to be similar concerns coming through in H5.
In fact, I would wager that most long-term halo fans see Bungie’s Reach as the beginning of the downfall that led to Halo 4 and as we’ve seen following Destiny, noone is out to kick Bungie’s butt.
I don’t think people are claiming Halo 5 generally looks like COD, clearly it doesn’t, those comments are referring to COD-style gameplay features such as sprint and ADS (aesthetic or functional).
Why, when the basis of the complaints are quite evident (although not always well expressed by OPs) would you suggest that it was ‘because 343i did it’, seems to me that you’re out of touch if you think that’s the issue.
But there are a lot of people telling that Halo without Bungie is death.
I’m pretty sure there would still be hate regardless. It happens with each and every new game.
Have you not seen destiny?
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> That’s not it. Bungie released a heaping trash heap called Destiny and I don’t see many people kissing their feet about it
I was. I played 30+ hours in the Destiny Alpha and Beta. I loved it, anticipating more depth and such in the full release. Sadly, it was just more of the same… and then, there’s that whole “grind and repeat” for gear they thought was a good idea. Talk about a huge, massive letdown. No, I kissed their feet defending their game, then they kicked me in the face with the same feet.
That said, if Bungie was making Halo 5, I wouldn’t have the sour taste of Destiny in my mouth, so who knows? Before 343 took over Halo, I was unsure if Bungie knew just how to expand or evolve it’s Halo games. 343 is doing that, or at least appears to be, so I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for now. It’s a huge task and brand to live up to.
Ok going to show my age here but i remember how the community reacted to H2 for the first time.
Allow me to reenact the responce:
“Oh bungie ruined halo by adding in duel wielding ,turrets and vehicle boarding!”
“They made it more like an arena game that CE was its gonna suck”
“Being able to hyjak ghost is the end of halo”
Day of release to now from the same people
“H2 was the best halo ever!”
Wheter or not the community as a whole realized it halo wasnt orriginaly a pure arena, when it adopted more arena style play we got h2 and h3. This is why you see the community favoring those to out of the three. It was a rare instance the sequels where better than the orriginal.
In H:R and 4 it adopted class based features and the alien mechanics to an arena shooter resulted in the messes that we were served.
H5G looks more in line with an arena shooter. Could it use a slow down in pace yes but it is in line with an arena shooter. People just having problems with the paint job done to zoom but once they get past the cosmetics they are faced with a shooter in line with the great arena shooters of old.
Those claiming that halo is trying to be like cod, a class based shooter ,have probably never seen gameplay of an arena shooter like the unreal tournaments or quakes. If anything has abandoned what they are this go around its cod.
Cod (class based) + class based mechanics = mw1-bo1 (good)
Cod +arena mechanics = bo2-ghost (garbage)
Halo(arena) + arena mechanics = h1-3/odst (good)
Halo + class based mechanics = hr-4 (garbage)
Now this go around is
Cod+arena mechanics= cod AW
Halo+ arena mechanics = h5
One of these is going to suck take a guess.
Only class based game to avoid this is titanfall. It avoided it by keeping the arenaish parts (titans) limited and seprate from the classed based as much as possible.
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> Ok going to show my age here but i remember how the community reacted to H2 for the first time.
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> “They made it more like an arena game that CE was its gonna suck”
I don’t remember hearing or seeing such things back then, just really positive stuff and excitement.
Not even close.
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> I’m pretty sure there would still be hate regardless. It happens with each and every new game.
This. Every new Halo game “kills” Halo.
H3 “killed” Halo because it wasn’t exactly like H2.
ODST “killed” Halo because it didn’t have its own multiplayer.
Reach “killed” Halo because it wasn’t exactly like 2 or 3. Also, armor abilities; sprint is the tool of satan and armor lock is somehow an insta-win for everyone using it.
H4 “killed” Halo because it wasn’t exactly like 2, 3, or Reach. Also, armor abilities are still a thing and sprint is the tool of satan.
H5 is going to “kill” Halo because it’s not exactly like 2, 3, Reach, or 4. Also, spartan abilities are a thing now and sprint is the tool of satan.
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> I don’t see many people kissing their feet about it
While not many, I have seen plenty of people doing such. Heck, I’ve seen people defending, even justifying, Destiny’s paywa… erm, DLC story missions.
I’m sorry, its one thing to remove something completely from the game, never to come to the general public due to time constraints/development issues. But its a whole other story to chop up what little story there is of the game, just to sell said pieces back to gamers after a set period of time that are sitting there in the code behind paywalls.
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Sorry for going on a little tangent there, but to me, the above is personally worse in my book than any mechanic 343 could add or take away from Halo.
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Besides the movement and new weapons which is all I can think of, what did players say back then?
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After people got to play it yes. But the hate on duel wielding and hijacking was heavy pre h2 in regards to how itd work in mp. People complaind it make vehicles useless and the new abilities were noob friendly. When they turned out that people driving were no longer guaranteed kills and had to step their game up attitudes changed quick.
The introduction of the BR put to rest the claim that ppl were going to duel wield all the time. Thats how i remember the pre h2 days
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Back then, I still would have thought if someone was able to get that close to your vehicle, you kinda deserve it lol.
I think the problem is that the fans don’t even know what they want.