Humans are the new gods?

If shangeili considere the furennare gods, and now the humans have all their thecnology. Now we will be considere gods too?

(Sorry 4 my english)

Can you please try to type out proper English? Download Firefox and it comes with a spellchecker. It’s just annoying.

And no, they aren’t going to worship us.

Despite the victorious nature of Humanity following the events of Halo 3 , there is no justification for the Sangheili to be supervention to a species that they historically considered inferior. Although an optimist may hope for amicable relations between the Humans and Sangheili, the latter will still follow a religious doctrine not dissimilar from that pursued prior to the Great Schism.

I apologize, but no this is incorrect. The Sanghelli do not recognize humans as descendants from the Forerunners, similar to how Judaism does not recognize Jesus as God’s son in the way that Christians do. We have some of their technology, but we scarcely know how to use it, unlike Sanghelios, which has been manufacturing and skillfully perfecting their abilities to utilize the tools left to them by the Forerunners.

Not to be rude, but where did you pick up your english? It is phonetically correct, but this language has strange grammatical strictures to which you must comply.

It is doubtful that the Sangheili will continue to revere the Forerunners as gods in the coming future. Jul lays out his opinion, which also seems to be reflected in their wider society, that the Forerunners do not deserve their reverence because they are neglectful gods that have allowed the Sangheili’s civilization to crumble into dust, and for their race to have been excommunicated and almost exterminated by the Prophets. For allowing the Sangheili to be deceived for millennia, and for all the tribulations that they went through at the hands of Truth and after the fall of the Covenant, the Forerunners are either dead (Dead gods, being in the same place as rocks dream about, cannot help you if you pray to them) or malicious gods unworthy of respect. 'Telcam is having to resort to trying to perform a character assassination on Thel 'Vadam in order to sway public opinion rather than to ruin Thel with actual facts about reality, so it looks like most Sangheili are beginning to throw away belief in the Forerunners. 'Telcam is also described as a minority on the theology front as well. When a Sangheili destroyed a Forerunner artefact, the only ones who attacked him were 'Telcam’s faction. No one else. If it is the case that only minorities pose a threat then it seems that public opinion is more towards the sceptical side just now.

From all this it means that any injunctions from the Forerunners would likely not be viewed as sacrosanct. This means that Humanity’s title of Reclaimer will probably mean absolutely nothing now. However the Sangheili, for some reason, have no knowledge of this fact anyway so it is unknown what would happen for sure but if I were to guess from the way Glasslands went it would likely mean nothing, and that a pseudo cognitive dissonance would emerge that somehow denies the reality of Humanity being Reclaimers, fuelling some sort of aggressive competition between the two races for Forerunner technology. This situation is likely to hold in Glassland’s canon whether the Sangheili stick to the Forerunner belief system or not. The Sangheili cannot get over their hatred for Humanity. The only thing preventing them from slaughtering Humanity after Halo 3 is the fact that they do not have enough ships or resources to do so and it is unlikely now that anything will change this depraved and banal attitude.

> From all this it means that any injunctions from the Forerunners would likely not be viewed as sacrosanct. This means that Humanity’s title of Reclaimer will probably mean absolutely nothing now. However the Sangheili, for some reason, have no knowledge of this fact anyway so it is unknown what would happen for sure but if I were to guess from the way Glasslands went it would likely mean nothing, and that a pseudo cognitive dissonance would emerge that somehow denies the reality of Humanity being Reclaimers, fuelling some sort of aggressive competition between the two races for Forerunner technology. This situation is likely to hold in Glassland’s canon whether the Sangheili stick to the Forerunner belief system or not. The Sangheili cannot get over their hatred for Humanity. The only thing preventing them from slaughtering Humanity after Halo 3 is the fact that they do not have enough ships or resources to do so and it is unlikely now that anything will change this depraved and banal attitude.

I wouldnt say it has NO meaning…at least not in a religious way, Reclaimer still identifies someone capable of activating (and ‘reclaiming’) a forerunner artifact. The fact of the matter is, Sanghelii were equally as aware, this discovery of deception by the Prophets further fueling the Great Schism of the Covenant Empire. It was previously sacrilege to acknowledge Humans as forerunner descendants, but in the absence of, to put humanistically, a Church-ruled state government, they are now simply seen as means to the end, the end being the reclamation of Forerunenr Relics.

> > From all this it means that any injunctions from the Forerunners would likely not be viewed as sacrosanct. This means that Humanity’s title of Reclaimer will probably mean absolutely nothing now. However the Sangheili, for some reason, have no knowledge of this fact anyway so it is unknown what would happen for sure but if I were to guess from the way Glasslands went it would likely mean nothing, and that a pseudo cognitive dissonance would emerge that somehow denies the reality of Humanity being Reclaimers, fuelling some sort of aggressive competition between the two races for Forerunner technology. This situation is likely to hold in Glassland’s canon whether the Sangheili stick to the Forerunner belief system or not. The Sangheili cannot get over their hatred for Humanity. The only thing preventing them from slaughtering Humanity after Halo 3 is the fact that they do not have enough ships or resources to do so and it is unlikely now that anything will change this depraved and banal attitude.
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> I wouldnt say it has NO meaning…at least not in a religious way, Reclaimer still identifies someone capable of activating (and ‘reclaiming’) a forerunner artifact. The fact of the matter is, Sanghelii were equally as aware, this discovery of deception by the Prophets further fueling the Great Schism of the Covenant Empire. It was previously sacrilege to acknowledge Humans as forerunner descendants, but in the absence of, to put humanistically, a Church-ruled state government, they are now simply seen as means to the end, the end being the reclamation of Forerunenr Relics.

The Return certainly puts things that way, the “means to an end” idea that the Sangheili might view Humans with. The Ship Master kidnaps the injured Human with intentions to torture him should he resist divulging information about the artefacts that the Humans were recovering on Kholo. This would probably still lead to hostility and competition though I think, especially when the UNSC find out about this behaviour and attitude that the Elites have towards Humans. Unfortunately it looks like another war is inevitable in 343 Industries’ canon from this outlook.

Though I am unsure what you mean by the Sangheili being aware of Humanity’s Reclaimer status. It is not made very clear from Glasslands that this is even at the rumour stage yet. The Ship Master makes note of it in the Return, but he calls them stories, told by the Arbiter.

Guys, Go easy on him. Not everyone in the world knows English, Judging from the grammatical errors; it was probably put through a translator then manually typed out.

Back on topic: No, I do not believe that the Sangheili will warship or revere Humanity as gods for the simple reason that their ‘gods’ betrayed them by not letting them know they were being wronged.

> Guys, Go easy on him. Not everyone in the world knows English, Judging from the grammatical errors; it was probably put through a translator then manually typed out.
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> Back on topic: No, I do not believe that the Sangheili will warship or revere Humanity as gods for the simple reason that their ‘gods’ betrayed them by not letting them know they were being wronged.

The only thing i can see them doing is helping humainty again if we are losing another desperate battle…^and yes Sangheili got royally screwed threw prophet!

> > > From all this it means that any injunctions from the Forerunners would likely not be viewed as sacrosanct. This means that Humanity’s title of Reclaimer will probably mean absolutely nothing now. However the Sangheili, for some reason, have no knowledge of this fact anyway so it is unknown what would happen for sure but if I were to guess from the way Glasslands went it would likely mean nothing, and that a pseudo cognitive dissonance would emerge that somehow denies the reality of Humanity being Reclaimers, fuelling some sort of aggressive competition between the two races for Forerunner technology. This situation is likely to hold in Glassland’s canon whether the Sangheili stick to the Forerunner belief system or not. The Sangheili cannot get over their hatred for Humanity. The only thing preventing them from slaughtering Humanity after Halo 3 is the fact that they do not have enough ships or resources to do so and it is unlikely now that anything will change this depraved and banal attitude.
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> > I wouldnt say it has NO meaning…at least not in a religious way, Reclaimer still identifies someone capable of activating (and ‘reclaiming’) a forerunner artifact. The fact of the matter is, Sanghelii were equally as aware, this discovery of deception by the Prophets further fueling the Great Schism of the Covenant Empire. It was previously sacrilege to acknowledge Humans as forerunner descendants, but in the absence of, to put humanistically, a Church-ruled state government, they are now simply seen as means to the end, the end being the reclamation of Forerunenr Relics.
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> The Return certainly puts things that way, the “means to an end” idea that the Sangheili might view Humans with. The Ship Master kidnaps the injured Human with intentions to torture him should he resist divulging information about the artefacts that the Humans were recovering on Kholo. This would probably still lead to hostility and competition though I think, especially when the UNSC find out about this behaviour and attitude that the Elites have towards Humans. Unfortunately it looks like another war is inevitable in 343 Industries’ canon from this outlook.
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> Though I am unsure what you mean by the Sangheili being aware of Humanity’s Reclaimer status. It is not made very clear from Glasslands that this is even at the rumour stage yet. The Ship Master makes note of it in the Return, but he calls them stories, told by the Arbiter.

It is my fault, I phrased that wrong. It isn’t that the Sanghelli are as aware of the status as humans (the majority are not, but many are) but they do realize the fact that only humans can apparently activate the Forerunner technology. In many areas of the books, Elites and Brutes go out of their way, under the orders of the Prophets, to capture a human and force him to initiate the technology, even in Halo 3, when Truth forces Sergeant Johnson to activate the Halo Array.

Elites acknowledged this, but they somehow managed to make it fit into their religion until the Great Schism, turning them all agnostic.

(I am very sorry about my grammar)
This idea come to me because is like the obvious thing to think… because the prophets were trying to kill humanity to hide our reclaimer destiny now without them we will be able to use all the forerunner technology we will be considere like the sons of the gods. No?

> If shangeili considere the furennare gods, and now the humans have all their thecnology. Now we will be considere gods too?
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> (Sorry 4 my english)

That would be funny to see an Elite actually bowing down in front of Master Chief and start worshiping him. It would be even more hilarious if said Elite were the Arbiter.

Arbiter: Hail Spartan

Arbiter starts worshiping Master Chief

Master Chief: 0_o

Not sure if humans are considered gods by the Sangheili.

i dont know how we came to be the “ancestors” of the foerunners they were actually big jerks to us but i think i know why they might have made us their ancestors.

becuase we did a thing that they couldnt do and made them jelaous :smiley:

> i dont know how we came to be the “ancestors” of the foerunners they were actually big jerks to us but i think i know why they might have made us their ancestors.
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> becuase we did a thing that they couldnt do and made them jelaous :smiley:

ancestor = the guys that came before you

You mean descendant right?

> (I am very sorry about my grammar)
> This idea come to me because is like the obvious thing to think… because the prophets were trying to kill humanity to hide our reclaimer destiny now without them we will be able to use all the forerunner technology we will be considere like the sons of the gods. No?

I see what you mean. Yes, technically, we were always able to use Forerunner relics, assuming we could find them. Until Installation 04, we had no idea they even existed, and the mother load was found on Onyx/Trevelyan. The Prophets did not want us to cause the collapse of the Empire (which we eventually did), and so set out to exterminate us. Now, if we discover any more relics besides those we have recovered, we will be free to use them without the threat of the San’Shyumm

> > (I am very sorry about my grammar)
> > This idea come to me because is like the obvious thing to think… because the prophets were trying to kill humanity to hide our reclaimer destiny now without them we will be able to use all the forerunner technology we will be considere like the sons of the gods. No?
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> I see what you mean. Yes, technically, we were always able to use Forerunner relics, assuming we could find them. Until Installation 04, we had no idea they even existed, and the mother load was found on Onyx/Trevelyan. The Prophets did not want us to cause the collapse of the Empire (which we eventually did), and so set out to exterminate us. Now, if we discover any more relics besides those we have recovered, we will be free to use them without the threat of the San’Shyumm

And we wil be considere gods to the other races? 4 me is the most razonable thing.