I have been wanting to use a vehicle-focused leader since the game launched but vehicles have been in a pretty bad spot and Isabel’s powers weren’t really effective (for me).
Has her situation improved now?
I tried building Scorpions in a match last night with Anders and the price + build times were just too expensive/slow - and the end result wasn’t even that powerful. I’m wondering if Isabel’s shields on Scorpions and Heavy metal powers actually do something decent now?
I have found Isabel is pretty effective now. Especially in 3 v 3 games. Scorpions are still pretty expensive, but they feel like they act how they should now. They aren’t as squishy, and they seem to do more damage to buildings now than previously. They can still be countered by Cyclops/Hunters, but the combo of those units getting nerfed a little and the increased HP allows the tanks to be more usable. My buddy was a huge Forge fan and used him exclusively pre-patch, but now he has switched to Isabel and likes using her a lot better. She gets the assembly line ability as a third leader point (which cuts down build time and cost of armor) versus Forge’s fourth point, she gets heavy metal as a first leader point (which is dope on tanks and hogs), and she gets the MAC blast (which feels better than the cluster bomb). Her drawback vs Forge is she can’t drop in a 3-pack of grizzlies and her tanks still aren’t grizzlies but are better than any other non-Forge armor.
Oh, and don’t forget she gets combat salvage which basically gives you the ability to re-produce 8 tanks for free during combat if they get repelled in an attack. And her temporary hack of vehicles and air can devastate an enemy army.
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> I have found Isabel is pretty effective now. Especially in 3 v 3 games. Scorpions are still pretty expensive, but they feel like they act how they should now. They aren’t as squishy, and they seem to do more damage to buildings now than previously. They can still be countered by Cyclops/Hunters, but the combo of those units getting nerfed a little and the increased HP allows the tanks to be more usable. My buddy was a huge Forge fan and used him exclusively pre-patch, but now he has switched to Isabel and likes using her a lot better. She gets the assembly line ability as a third leader point (which cuts down build time and cost of armor) versus Forge’s fourth point, she gets heavy metal as a first leader point (which is dope on tanks and hogs), and she gets the MAC blast (which feels better than the cluster bomb). Her drawback vs Forge is she can’t drop in a 3-pack of grizzlies and her tanks still aren’t grizzlies but are better than any other non-Forge armor.
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> Oh, and don’t forget she gets combat salvage which basically gives you the ability to re-produce 8 tanks for free during combat if they get repelled in an attack. And her temporary hack of vehicles and air can devastate an enemy army.
Thanks Cleric, I’m gonna give her another shot. She was the leader I most wanted to use.
Like the previous poster said, with scorps being far more effective now, the shielding makes them that bit more powerful, combine that with the nightingales, which while some would argue against it, I think the shield allows them to survive much more. All they need to do is boost her ghost in the machine ability ans she will be set
Correct me if i’m wrong, but Assembly Line passive isn’t supposed to reduce Scorpions cost too ? I remember seeing them at 434 ressources required pre-patch, and now they don’t move from 600, i may have missed something on the patch or there is something to fix by CA ?
actually, there are two thinks that you should consider.
Isabel is still trash, at least in 1v1. I’d imagine her tanks are much more viable in a team setting.
Personally, I think so. But we each have different perceptions
The problem with Isabel’s Tanks is that when you Use the Y Ability. They stop moving and shoot very slowly. Forges Tanks will dominate hers anytime. Isabel’s purpose I think is to keep pumping out vehicules rapidly into battle and always having units out. But other than that she isn’t THAT useful (as much as I would like). Her main leader is useless comparing to Forges Warthog.
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> The problem with Isabel’s Tanks is that when you Use the Y Ability. They stop moving and shoot very slowly. Forges Tanks will dominate hers anytime. Isabel’s purpose I think is to keep pumping out vehicules rapidly into battle and always having units out. But other than that she isn’t THAT useful (as much as I would like). Her main leader is useless comparing to Forges Warthog.
I knew there was something funny going on with their Y ability. I couldn’t figure out what was happening and then my units got completely creamed.
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> > The problem with Isabel’s Tanks is that when you Use the Y Ability. They stop moving and shoot very slowly. Forges Tanks will dominate hers anytime. Isabel’s purpose I think is to keep pumping out vehicules rapidly into battle and always having units out. But other than that she isn’t THAT useful (as much as I would like). Her main leader is useless comparing to Forges Warthog.
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> I knew there was something funny going on with their Y ability. I couldn’t figure out what was happening and then my units got completely creamed.
Ya i think her tanks are meant to play like Kodiaks. You need to manage them to stay behind your marines and units. Meanwhile the Grizzlies, they can be played in the middle of everything and your all good lool…
With isabel as my favorite leader(i always use the underdogs) she is a late leader you have to manage ur units using really only cloning as ur main weapon. And i promise once the game reaches 15 minutes if you can get ur hands on fully upgraded tanks with best offense pp they are pretty much unstopabble i once took down an entire army of hunters with tanks. Even air units as the shields really protect the tanks. Other than that if you wanna get i to isabel. I always start with 3 marines and spartan and upgrade her to hijack then i build 2 barrack and start deploying hellbringers if you manage your cloning and manage ur units to not be bucnehd up together to protect them from other heros or leader powers u should be able to control the map decently enough to where you can get her pp powers up and running and deply tanks very cheap extremely fast thanks to her pp and with shields. Takes alot of practice though. Until her next update hopefully sometime in late August
Please don’t revive old topics, thanks.