Let me set the scene.
Warzone, the map is March on Stormbreak (something like that), you’re on red team, but it’s losing 500:600. The enemy gets cocky and sends out two tanks, one is a standard boring scorpion, the other is a Hannibal tank. Your team is down three players and the enemy is at max. How would you go about taking down those tanks so they don’t rain devastation on the remains of your team? Also REQ level is 5, and you have one Spartan Laser, one Whiplash, and a single plasma gernade at your disposable. Current weapons in your layout are the Halo 2 BR, and an extended clip magnum.
Let me know if you come up with a tactical strategy, you don’t HAVE to use all the ordnance, but you only have what’s there
EDIT: The two tanks are in front of the home base for blue team. The fortress is red teams, but either armoury is controlled by blue team. No bosses, the Spartan laser is an endgame, no active camo, and your team can not communicate with you.
Is this a Kobayashi Maru test where there’s no way to win and you’re just asking the question as a test of character, or do you really see a way forward with the parameters you laid out? Because I know what I would do, but I don’t think my answer is the one you’re looking for. My answer involves doing whatever I have to do to get the match over with as quickly as possible without wasting any reqs or dying. I’m no Captain Kirk.
Should provide more info. Are you able to communicate with the rest of your team or are you flying solo? What is the rest of the team doing that it’s on you to deal with both tanks? Are the tanks moving together? Are they pushing a point or defending one?
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> Is this a Kobayashi Maru test where there’s no way to win and you’re just asking the question as a test of character, or do you really see a way forward with the parameters you laid out? Because I know what I would do, but I don’t think my answer is the one you’re looking for. My answer involves doing whatever I have to do to get the match over with as quickly as possible without wasting any reqs or dying. I’m no Captain Kirk.
Personally with my req pool I’d throw on camo and take out the regular scorpion, then repeat with the Hannibal. Using only the reqs you provide I’d spawn the laser and aim at the regular scorpion while popping in and out of the shield door/cover, then repeat with the Hannibal.
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You know me so well, but in all honesty I was picturing hanging around my base shield door and poking my head out here and there (with whatever level 2 loadout weapon I happened to have) and taking shots at whatever I can hit with a minimum of risk. If that happens to be one of the tanks then great. If not then I would patiently wait for the enemy to cap all bases and bring those tanks to me rather than heading out on foot to hunt them. For me this game is all about risk management. Not sure who I’d be -Yoink!- off more - team mates or the enemy, but it’s a little too late now to start formulating a gameplay strategy based on pleasing everyone else.
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> You know me so well, but in all honesty I was picturing hanging around my base shield door and poking my head out here and there (with whatever level 2 loadout weapon I happened to have) and taking shots at whatever I can hit with a minimum of risk. If that happens to be one of the tanks then great. If not then I would patiently wait for the enemy to cap all bases and bring those tanks to me rather than heading out on foot to hunt them. For me this game is all about risk management. Not sure who I’d be -Yoink!- off more - team mates or the enemy, but it’s a little too late now to start formulating a gameplay strategy based on pleasing everyone else.
I don’t see how that plan ends the match quickly as possible. If you end up being effective and hard to kill you prolong the game, but you don’t necessarily get closer to winning. The scenario laid out by OP seems like a lost cause; even if you kill the tanks, taking into account the other factors and the natural progression of the match, chances are you’d still be behind. And depending on what your teammates do, the score gap could get even greater, leading to an even greater “lost cause” scenario.
I guess letting the enemy team triple cap puts the game close to ending, unless they start farming instead of going for the core, or unless your team decides to start mounting a somewhat effective defense. Once the tanks are right outside your door, even with a Splaser you’re in a bad situation.
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> I don’t see how that plan ends the match quickly as possible. If you end up being effective and hard to kill you prolong the game, but you don’t necessarily get closer to winning. The scenario laid out by OP seems like a lost cause; even if you kill the tanks, taking into account the other factors and the natural progression of the match, chances are you’d still be behind. And depending on what your teammates do, the score gap could get even greater, leading to an even greater “lost cause” scenario.
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> I guess letting the enemy team triple cap puts the game close to ending, unless they start farming instead of going for the core, or unless your team decides to start mounting a somewhat effective defense. Once the tanks are right outside your door, even with a Splaser you’re in a bad situation.
Odds are good that I would be hard to kill, but they’re low that I’d be effective. And assuming my team is already down three players, and I’m a defacto forth, then I’m imagining an accelerated pace to the end game… I’m not saying that all causes are lost, or that all routs are unsalvageable, but, as I said before, I do believe in no-win scenarios and my threshold for effort-making falls far, far short of even border-line situations. Guess I’m just not what anyone would call a striver.
I know people generally start to panic when the enemy is at the door, but I have to admit, once again with an atypical opinion, that I don’t always find that a terrible situation. It’s terrible if you still haven’t let go of the idea of turning the match, or even of protecting the core. But if you stay farther back and pick off foot soldiers until the core is gone then there is still something worthwhile to be done - fun to be had, as it were.
And if the enemy decided to farm instead of win… that definitely starts with “q” and ends with “uit.”
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You more or less are not able to communicate with your team, but in this situation they are distracting the tanks by giving them targets, the tanks are moving one ahead of the other, Hannibal is behind.
This is more of a how would you go about taking control of the situation, no right or wrong answers, just trying to find new ways to play the game.
Well you claim the game is 100 to 254 so more likely neither team would have access to tanks yet and most definitely not a Hannibal tank. But with those options I guess tank out the Hannibal tank preferably with a Spartan laser or whichever tank is in the most vulnerable position… But your best bet would be to use active camo and then try and laser or better try and board to destroy them.
What bases do they control? Stormbreak is a shallow, linear map so there’s not a lot of options if they control all three bases. Going off your info, it’s pretty easy though. Just stay in your home base near cover and long distance laser the regular Scorpion and then use the rest on the Hannibal plus use all of your whiplash shots on it if it’s still alive which should then destroy it.
Another option would be to laser the Scorpion and then try and sneak around in the back tunnel area on the map which isn’t used much and then flank the Hannibal by boarding or getting laser shots on it while using the rock walls as cover assuming it’s on the other side of the map.
Another option could be to try and get to the middle base area and then climb up to the top of the garage and hide until the countdown timer is reset and then figure out where the tanks are. Once you do, reset the counter, find your target and shoot the laser, reset the counter and repeat until tanks are dead.
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I think figuring out which tank to blow up is the least of your problems in that game because one player apparently already has like 40-50 kills and is at level 8 reqs while the other might have 30 and is at least at level 6 reqs. And that’s in the early game… like 4-5 minutes in.
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> I think figuring out which tank to blow up is the least of your problems in that game because one player apparently already has like 40-50 kills and is at level 8 reqs while the other might have 30 and is at least at level 6 reqs. And that’s in the early game… like 4-5 minutes in.
If World of Tanks has taught me something, prioritize tanks by taking out the most dangerous / damaged one first. You’ll be more efficient with your ammo afterwards.
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> Personally with my req pool I’d throw on camo and take out the regular scorpion, then repeat with the Hannibal. Using only the reqs you provide I’d spawn the laser and aim at the regular scorpion while popping in and out of the shield door/cover, then repeat with the Hannibal.
Can I ask a really dumb question as I generally don’t play WZ, can you grab active camo and a vehicle and thus provides the vehicle with active camo also?
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> > Personally with my req pool I’d throw on camo and take out the regular scorpion, then repeat with the Hannibal. Using only the reqs you provide I’d spawn the laser and aim at the regular scorpion while popping in and out of the shield door/cover, then repeat with the Hannibal.
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> Can I ask a really dumb question as I generally don’t play WZ, can you grab active camo and a vehicle and thus provides the vehicle with active camo also?
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> > > Personally with my req pool I’d throw on camo and take out the regular scorpion, then repeat with the Hannibal. Using only the reqs you provide I’d spawn the laser and aim at the regular scorpion while popping in and out of the shield door/cover, then repeat with the Hannibal.
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How close are the tanks to each other? Cause if they are far apart, I can just sit back and core them with the laser once they aren’t looking at my general direction. If they stick together I can still take one out with the Splaser, but that will alert the other tank. In that case, I would see if there is enough cover between me and the remaining tank (the regular one, I would focus on the Hannibal first) and try and get close enough to it to board it. I can use the Whipwash and BR to deal with any enemy spartans on my way there. Pity the loadout included doesn’t include a splinter grenade since that would be way more useful against a Scorpion (guaranteed board), but if the tank driver isn’t too mindful about his surroundings I can still pull it off.
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> How close are the tanks to each other? Cause if they are far apart, I can just sit back and core them with the laser once they aren’t looking at my general direction. If they stick together I can still take one out with the Splaser, but that will alert the other tank. In that case, I would see if there is enough cover between me and the remaining tank (the regular one, I would focus on the Hannibal first) and try and get close enough to it to board it. I can use the Whipwash and BR to deal with any enemy spartans on my way there. Pity the loadout included doesn’t include a splinter grenade since that would be way more useful against a Scorpion (guaranteed board), but if the tank driver isn’t too mindful about his surroundings I can still pull it off.
Read the new edit, they’re in front of the blue Homebase and are trying to repel your team trying to capture the armoury closest to them from a distance. They’re like one in front of the other
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> > How close are the tanks to each other? Cause if they are far apart, I can just sit back and core them with the laser once they aren’t looking at my general direction. If they stick together I can still take one out with the Splaser, but that will alert the other tank. In that case, I would see if there is enough cover between me and the remaining tank (the regular one, I would focus on the Hannibal first) and try and get close enough to it to board it. I can use the Whipwash and BR to deal with any enemy spartans on my way there. Pity the loadout included doesn’t include a splinter grenade since that would be way more useful against a Scorpion (guaranteed board), but if the tank driver isn’t too mindful about his surroundings I can still pull it off.
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> Read the new edit, they’re in front of the blue Homebase and are trying to repel your team trying to capture the armoury closest to them from a distance. They’re like one in front of the other
Well this makes things way harder. The front of the primary bases are usually bereft of a lot of cover and I can’t approach the tanks from the back (ideal scenario). Boarding one would almost assuredly mean that I will get blasted by the other scorpion. Since they are bunched up a single Splaser shot could damage both tanks and thus make them retreat back to blue base. Door shields make outright destroying the tanks really tough, but I would consider forcing them to back off for a bit to be a victory. At that point, I would hope that my team notices that the scorpions are no longer blasting them and push to take the armory (due to lack of direct communication).
Major issue with this scenario is going to be hoping that you don’t get ambushed from enemy spartans coming from the armory.
