You had the most kills/objective scores on your team (in H4 the highest score)
You had the most kills/objective scores in the game (" ")
Your k/d is good
I agree with a lot of people about visible rank. It is nothing more than an internet phallus to wave in the face of other people. Not to mention that people will pay money or boost up to “50” and then that cheapens the hard work that the legit 50s put in to get that rank. You don’t need a number to prove you’re good at Halo, let your actions prove how awesome you are.
Can’t argue with what you put, quite good actually, I would add that K/D ratio is irrelevant in certain games, like king, you can die plenty in the hill, slayer game yes, you should be killing more than dying, or at least assisting.
> 1. Your team won the game
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> 2. You had the most kills/objective scores on your team (in H4 the highest score)
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> 3. You had the most kills/objective scores in the game (" ")
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> 4. Your k/d is good
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> I agree with a lot of people about visible rank. It is nothing more than an internet phallus to wave in the face of other people. Not to mention that people will pay money or boost up to “50” and then that cheapens the hard work that the legit 50s put in to get that rank. You don’t need a number to prove you’re good at Halo, let your actions prove how awesome you are.
All of this doesn’t matter when there are guests or the ability to quit and join mid games. Ranked games have no guest’s and no quit and join mid games resulting in a more accurate trueskill tracking.
> Can’t argue with what you put, quite good actually, I would add that K/D ratio is irrelevant in certain games, like king, you can die plenty in the hill, slayer game yes, you should be killing more than dying, or at least assisting.
K/D was 4th on the list because it’s not the best way to tell if someone is good or not, but you can get a little bit of an idea by looking at it.
I also think showing a W/L (win/loss) ratio per playlist would give you a REAL good idea of how good someone is.
> 1. Your team won the game
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> 2. You had the most kills/objective scores on your team (in H4 the highest score)
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> 3. You had the most kills/objective scores in the game (" ")
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> 4. Your k/d is good
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> I agree with a lot of people about visible rank. It is nothing more than an internet phallus to wave in the face of other people. Not to mention that people will pay money or boost up to “50” and then that cheapens the hard work that the legit 50s put in to get that rank. You don’t need a number to prove you’re good at Halo, let your actions prove how awesome you are.
How do you know how good the people your playing against are?
I don’t let people wave phalluses in my face. The only one I care about is mine. If I really care about how mine compares to others, then maybe I’ll take a quick peek and compare. Otherwise, I don’t care. Theirs might not be real anyway.
Also, I stick to party chat so I don’t have to hear people be stupid anyway, rather they be bragging about rank or anything else.
> > 1. Your team won the game
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> > 2. You had the most kills/objective scores on your team (in H4 the highest score)
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> > 3. You had the most kills/objective scores in the game (" ")
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> > 4. Your k/d is good
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> > I agree with a lot of people about visible rank. It is nothing more than an internet phallus to wave in the face of other people. Not to mention that people will pay money or boost up to “50” and then that cheapens the hard work that the legit 50s put in to get that rank. You don’t need a number to prove you’re good at Halo, let your actions prove how awesome you are.
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> How do you know how good the people your playing against are?
See #1. If your team didn’t win, there is a good chance that your team weren’t as good as the other. If you still have questions, see #2, if you lost but have more individual score than the other individual players it is probably safe to say that you are still pretty much better than them, you just had an inferior team.
Except if you are the second best in the world, and the matchmaking is good, you will likely play the best in the world. And you will likely loose.
Without a measuring stick to show you where you and your opponent stand in the greater scheme of things, there is no way to know. If the matchmaking is solid, you will always lose about half of your games, and you will always have a k/d a little above 1.0.
How are you supposed to know if you are any good at that point? Everyone will “level” off with their true-skill. Some of us will do so at the top, some of us in the middle, some at the bottom. Once that happens, k/d, win/loss etc will be about the same for everyone. You need a rank to know where you have leveled off at.
This is common sense. This is how it worked in Halo 1 and 2. Folks didnt have insane stats in those games because the matchmaking eventually placed them against equal opponents. Reach has tainted folks with its crap matchmaking into thinking that if you are good, your stats will show it. No. In good matchmaking, even if you are awesome your stats will be about the same as someone who sucks, but your competition will be better.
> Except if you are the second best in the world, and the matchmaking is good, you will likely play the best in the world. And you will likely loose.
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> Without a measuring stick to show you where you and your opponent stand in the greater scheme of things, there is no way to know. If the matchmaking is solid, you will always lose about half of your games, and you will always have a k/d a little above 1.0.
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> How are you supposed to know if you are any good at that point? Everyone will “level” off with their true-skill. Some of us will do so at the top, some of us in the middle, some at the bottom. Once that happens, k/d, win/loss etc will be about the same for everyone. You need a rank to know where you have leveled off at.
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> This is common sense. This is how it worked in Halo 1 and 2. Folks didnt have insane stats in those games because the matchmaking eventually placed them against equal opponents. Reach has tainted folks with its crap matchmaking into thinking that if you are good, your stats will show it. No. In good matchmaking, even if you are awesome your stats will be about the same as someone who sucks, but your competition will be better.
> > > 1. Your team won the game
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> > > 2. You had the most kills/objective scores on your team (in H4 the highest score)
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> > > 3. You had the most kills/objective scores in the game (" ")
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> > > 4. Your k/d is good
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> > > I agree with a lot of people about visible rank. It is nothing more than an internet phallus to wave in the face of other people. Not to mention that people will pay money or boost up to “50” and then that cheapens the hard work that the legit 50s put in to get that rank. You don’t need a number to prove you’re good at Halo, let your actions prove how awesome you are.
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> > How do you know how good the people your playing against are?
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> See #1. If your team didn’t win, there is a good chance that your team weren’t as good as the other. If you still have questions, see #2, if you lost but have more individual score than the other individual players it is probably safe to say that you are still pretty much better than them, you just had an inferior team.
I’m not saying your points aren’t valid pertaining to your skill vs the skill of the other team, but how do you know if your playing mlg pros or noobs? Yes that example is an exaggeration but just using it to get across my point
Right. You have no idea if you were playing noobs or pros. And the thing is, in a good matchmaking system, the noobs will play the noobs and the pros will play the pros. So after a little bit of “climbing” the invisible ranking system, everyone will level off at where they belong. And then, no matter where you are on the “ladder”, your games will have similar results.
Noobs will lose half their games, middle of the pack players will lose half their games, pros will lose half their games.
> > > > 1. Your team won the game
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> > > > 2. You had the most kills/objective scores on your team (in H4 the highest score)
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> > > > 3. You had the most kills/objective scores in the game (" ")
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> > > > 4. Your k/d is good
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> > > > I agree with a lot of people about visible rank. It is nothing more than an internet phallus to wave in the face of other people. Not to mention that people will pay money or boost up to “50” and then that cheapens the hard work that the legit 50s put in to get that rank. You don’t need a number to prove you’re good at Halo, let your actions prove how awesome you are.
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> > > How do you know how good the people your playing against are?
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> > See #1. If your team didn’t win, there is a good chance that your team weren’t as good as the other. If you still have questions, see #2, if you lost but have more individual score than the other individual players it is probably safe to say that you are still pretty much better than them, you just had an inferior team.
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> I’m not saying your points aren’t valid pertaining to your skill vs the skill of the other team, but how do you know if your playing mlg pros or noobs? Yes that example is an exaggeration but just using it to get across my point
I can’t believe it’s that big of a deal. 343 said that their matchmaking is really good this time around and will match WAY stricter on skill than what Reach did. Can’t anyone enjoy the act of running around a level shooting people and trying to just win a game on a game to game basis? Why does it have to be about Rank Rank Rank all the time?
To directly answer the question, I would say that probably 75% of the community are “decent” players. Out of the remaining 25% I would say that 15% of them are terrible, and 10% of them are ridiculously good at the game. So you can tell pretty much who you are playing against. If you steamroll the other team, they were probably noobs, if you get pounded into the ground, they were probably pros.
A rank doesn’t tell you anything. You could trounce a lvl 50 because it was some little kid who paid for an account lvl 50, or you could get destroyed by a lvl 4 because it was a pro that just picked up the game or created a new account. Logic destroyed =D
and when true skill is actually working regardless of how good you are your stats will be reletively the same, this means a 10 can have the same stats as a 50.
If you are a lvl 50 and you are in a match with all lvl 50s, how do you tell who is the best? Do you then get another number next to that to tell you what lvl you are amoungst the 50s?