Quitters add a huge problem to people who want to rank up on the arena playlist. They Completely ruin the game not only for the quitters teammates, but also for the winning team who have to sit through a whole game of 4v2 or even worse, 4v1
That one guy who is the only poor soul has to endure the torture of getting req’d by the opposing team even if he is a good player. He has to suffer through the game because his wus teammates decided that the score of 30 to 40 was enough to make them quit.
On the opposite side, the winning team has to play a game of hide and seek for that one guy who never quits the game for fear of being banned.
Moral of the story, quitters equally ruin the game for everyone, so therefore I offer to 343 the following solution.
To the quitter:
Double up his loosing CSR rank after a certain amount of quits (maybe 3 or 5 per week) including a time ban. This will make it so that the quitter knows that instead of helping his rank by quitting a loosing match, he is hurting it more than if he would stay and endure the loss with his teammates.
To the affected team, or last survivor:
Dont make that game count as a rank down match. Don’t punish a team for sticking around the whole match because of 5 yr old quitters. This would only apply if the team looses, if they win even at a 2v4 or a 1v4 still give them their well deserve credit.
To the unaffected team:
Nothing changes here, a win is a win and a loss is a loss; even if it was loosing a 4v1 game
I believe these solutions will help with the overall enjoyment of the game for all players alike. Please vote whether you agree, would add anything to, or how I am completely wrong in my solution
Not counting the stats doesn’t work because some people manage to win despite being out numbered. Someone else suggested a forfeit option being made available when team mates quit. As far as bans and penalties to the quitters, nothing is too severe as far as I’m concerned. 24 hrs to a week would be good.
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> Not counting the stats doesn’t work because some people manage to win despite being out numbered. Someone else suggested a forfeit option being made available when team mates quit. As far as bans and penalties to the quitters, nothing is too severe as far as I’m concerned. 24 hrs to a week would be good.
I also added that if the affected team manages to win even if they were outnumbered, they still rank up like if it was a normal win.
I agree, there is no harsh enough punishment to quitters, but to me this is the most fair option considering how some people actually loose there connections.
Whether you’re losing connection or quitting, you still are having a negative effect on my experience. If your disconnecting that much, fix your internet. Not sure de ranking would be a huge deterrent. I think they’re more concerned with their k/d.
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> Whether you’re losing connection or quitting, you still are having a negative effect on my experience. If your disconnecting that much, fix your internet. Not sure de ranking would be a huge deterrent. I think they’re more concerned with their k/d.
Agree, some people make that argument saying “I loose connection so much due to 343 I shouldn’t be punished for that” but honestly I think that about 80-90% of players who leave matches are true legit quitters who sometimes blame their problems to 343
If you are dropping connection that much, Maybe you should get that fixed because obviously not everyone is having that big of a problem
Until you can confirm that a “quitter” isn’t impacted by poor internet connection, then your solution leaves much to be desired.
But if 343 wants to alienate gamers who paid money to play its game, then by all means go ahead with this plan.
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> Until you can confirm that a “quitter” isn’t impacted by poor internet connection, then your solution leaves much to be desired.
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> But if 343 wants to alienate gamers who paid money to play its game, then by all means go ahead with this plan.
You’re unreliable internet connection is not 343’s responsibility.
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> You’re unreliable internet connection is not 343’s responsibility.
You’re right. It isn’t.
I suppose I should plan on not buying any future games from 343 now if it enacts this plan then. I think there will be many other gamers who follow suit.
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> I suppose I should plan on not buying any future games from 343 now if it enacts this plan then. I think there will be many other gamers who follow suit.
If you are actually loosing connection to the games that much then maybe you shouldn’t play arena. You are hurting your stats and the fun of other players. There are other games you can play however; Warzone or even campaign co-op. It makes no sense that you would try to keep playing Arena after 2 or 3 matches that have been disconnected. If it were me I’d check that up immediately
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> If you are actually loosing connection to the games that much then maybe you shouldn’t play arena. You are hurting your stats and the fun of other players. There are other games you can play however; Warzone or even campaign co-op. It makes no sense that you would try to keep playing Arena after 2 or 3 matches that have been disconnected. If it were me I’d check that up immediately
My internet connection is fine. I’m speaking metaphorically on behalf of those gamers in foreign countries (or the USA) who don’t have access to a reliable internet connection.
343’s gearing HALO 5 multiplayer towards pro gamers and those so fixated on competitive play will only serve to kill the HALO franchise. At the end, only a relative handful of diehard HALO comp gamers will remain.
It happened to Ubisoft and Ghost Recon / Future Soldier game. The same will happen to HALO.
Why not add a mercy rule. When 3 people quit give the last guy the option to continue playing and try to tough it out or let him use the mercy rule and take the loss without have to board the r ape train.
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> Why not add a mercy rule. When 3 people quit give the last guy the option to continue playing and try to tough it out or let him use the mercy rule and take the loss without have to board the r ape train.
Would be a good option of they don’t penalize you for using it. Losing a rank because of others leaving you alone in the fight shouldn’t be your responsibility
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> Why not add a mercy rule. When 3 people quit give the last guy the option to continue playing and try to tough it out or let him use the mercy rule and take the loss without have to board the r ape train.
Given the relative immaturity of many pro gamers and diehard gamers, I don’t see “the granting of mercy” as being a realistic course of action.
Tea bagging perhaps. But not mercy.
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> Would be a good option of they don’t penalize you for using it. Losing a rank because of others leaving you alone in the fight shouldn’t be your responsibility
That’s what I meant, haha just worded it wrong sadly.
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> > > > > Until you can confirm that a “quitter” isn’t impacted by poor internet connection, then your solution leaves much to be desired.
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> > > > > But if 343 wants to alienate gamers who paid money to play its game, then by all means go ahead with this plan.
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> > > > You’re unreliable internet connection is not 343’s responsibility.
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> > > You’re right. It isn’t.
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> > > I suppose I should plan on not buying any future games from 343 now if it enacts this plan then. I think there will be many other gamers who follow suit.
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> > If you are actually loosing connection to the games that much then maybe you shouldn’t play arena. You are hurting your stats and the fun of other players. There are other games you can play however; Warzone or even campaign co-op. It makes no sense that you would try to keep playing Arena after 2 or 3 matches that have been disconnected. If it were me I’d check that up immediately
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> My internet connection is fine. I’m speaking metaphorically on behalf of those gamers in foreign countries (or the USA) who don’t have access to a reliable internet connection.
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> 343’s gearing HALO 5 multiplayer towards pro gamers and those so fixated on competitive play will only serve to kill the HALO franchise. At the end, only a relative handful of diehard HALO comp gamers will remain.
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> It happened to Ubisoft and Ghost Recon / Future Soldier game. The same will happen to HALO.
The same thing could be said for the other way around, if they start catering to the casuals they will loose a big chunk of halo fans that were there since h:CE and h2. Don’t believe me? Look at what happened to H4. Even 343 noticed that what brought up the halo franchise to what it is, is because of the competitive group. However I also agree that the casual players contribute to the fun of halo, which is why having both of theses groups is essential to the franchise’s life. You can’t exclude one group. That’s why H5 has Warzone and soon BTB. Arena should be left for people who like to play competitively which is why I think my plan is effective
Quitting a ranked team game should give an instant derank. You’re screwing over 3 other players every time you do.
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> > > > > > Until you can confirm that a “quitter” isn’t impacted by poor internet connection, then your solution leaves much to be desired.
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> > > > > > But if 343 wants to alienate gamers who paid money to play its game, then by all means go ahead with this plan.
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> > > > > You’re unreliable internet connection is not 343’s responsibility.
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> > > > You’re right. It isn’t.
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> > > > I suppose I should plan on not buying any future games from 343 now if it enacts this plan then. I think there will be many other gamers who follow suit.
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> > > If you are actually loosing connection to the games that much then maybe you shouldn’t play arena. You are hurting your stats and the fun of other players. There are other games you can play however; Warzone or even campaign co-op. It makes no sense that you would try to keep playing Arena after 2 or 3 matches that have been disconnected. If it were me I’d check that up immediately
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> > My internet connection is fine. I’m speaking metaphorically on behalf of those gamers in foreign countries (or the USA) who don’t have access to a reliable internet connection.
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> > 343’s gearing HALO 5 multiplayer towards pro gamers and those so fixated on competitive play will only serve to kill the HALO franchise. At the end, only a relative handful of diehard HALO comp gamers will remain.
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> > It happened to Ubisoft and Ghost Recon / Future Soldier game. The same will happen to HALO.
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> The same thing could be said for the other way around, if they start catering to the casuals they will loose a big chunk of halo fans that were there since h:CE and h2. Don’t believe me? Look at what happened to H4 even 343 noticed that what brought up the halo franchise to what it is it is because of the competitive group. However I also agree that the casual players contribute to the fun of halo, which is why having both of theses groups is essential to the franchises’ life. You can’t exclude one group. That’s why H5 has Warzone and soon BTB. Arena should be left for people who like to play competitively which is why I think my plan is effective
No matter which way 343 chooses to go, they are bound to upset one group of gamers.
So should 343 upset a relatively small group of pro gamers and diehard HALO gamers who will keep HALO a niche game?
Or should 343 upset the casual gamer group, who represent the largest, most profitable gamer demographic in the market?
Were I 343 and Microsoft, I know which group I would cater to and keep happy (i.e. the casual gamer group).
If you don’t believe me, go read Activision’s annual reports and see how its COD franchise as contributed over $17 BILLION dollars to its bottom line in revenues.
I don’t think losing decreases your rank as it resets every “season” anyway. But i would like it to not count on my KDA. im not gona go 15 and 30 because my teammates quit on me.
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> > > > > > > Until you can confirm that a “quitter” isn’t impacted by poor internet connection, then your solution leaves much to be desired.
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> > > > > > > But if 343 wants to alienate gamers who paid money to play its game, then by all means go ahead with this plan.
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> > > > > > You’re unreliable internet connection is not 343’s responsibility.
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> > > > > You’re right. It isn’t.
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> > > > > I suppose I should plan on not buying any future games from 343 now if it enacts this plan then. I think there will be many other gamers who follow suit.
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> > > > If you are actually loosing connection to the games that much then maybe you shouldn’t play arena. You are hurting your stats and the fun of other players. There are other games you can play however; Warzone or even campaign co-op. It makes no sense that you would try to keep playing Arena after 2 or 3 matches that have been disconnected. If it were me I’d check that up immediately
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> > > My internet connection is fine. I’m speaking metaphorically on behalf of those gamers in foreign countries (or the USA) who don’t have access to a reliable internet connection.
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> > > 343’s gearing HALO 5 multiplayer towards pro gamers and those so fixated on competitive play will only serve to kill the HALO franchise. At the end, only a relative handful of diehard HALO comp gamers will remain.
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> > > It happened to Ubisoft and Ghost Recon / Future Soldier game. The same will happen to HALO.
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> > The same thing could be said for the other way around, if they start catering to the casuals they will loose a big chunk of halo fans that were there since h:CE and h2. Don’t believe me? Look at what happened to H4 even 343 noticed that what brought up the halo franchise to what it is it is because of the competitive group. However I also agree that the casual players contribute to the fun of halo, which is why having both of theses groups is essential to the franchises’ life. You can’t exclude one group. That’s why H5 has Warzone and soon BTB. Arena should be left for people who like to play competitively which is why I think my plan is effective
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> No matter which way 343 chooses to go, they are bound to upset one group of gamers.
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> So should 343 upset a relatively small group of pro gamers and diehard HALO gamers who will keep HALO a niche game?
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> Or should 343 upset the casual gamer group, who represent the largest, most profitable gamer demographic in the market?
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> Were I 343 and Microsoft, I know which group I would cater to and keep happy (i.e. the casual gamer group).
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> If you don’t believe me, go read Activision’s annual reports and see how its COD franchise as contributed over $17 BILLION dollars to its bottom line in revenues.
Well for the competitive pro groups there exists a “niche” called Arena. I’m asking to fix this part of the arena with is quitting and it is a big problem. I’m not asking to change anything on any social playlist. If the competitive halo fans are a small group then let us have Arena, you guys can keep social playlists and quit as many times as you want. Just not in Arena, not a playlist which is soley made for these players
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> I don’t think losing decreases your rank as it resets every “season” anyway. But i would like it to not count on my KDA. im not gona go 15 and 30 because my teammates quit on me.
Rank Resets are only for seasonal playlist which will be on a monthly bases starting December. They haven’t specified if the ones that are currently present will have a rank reset as well