Ok, I am tired of these noobs voting in neutral flag when they don’t know how to play it. We are going to use Ragnarok as an example because it is typically the go-to map. When your team has the flag and brings it back to your base, if he isn’t scoring the flag right away…DO NOT BETRAY HIM SO THAT YOU CAN SCORE IT! That player isn’t scoring it for a reason and it is more often than not because the neutral area/the hill isn’t cleared from enemies. If that player scores the flag, he is basically giving the flag right to them. What you noobs should do is work as a team and clear the hill so that the flag carrier on your team can score it and you guys can get it right away.
Speaking as a random player I notice also that the other team is just about to score the flag and there isn’t anyone near the spawn from my team. Trying to run with the flag with the whole other team shooting at me or shooting at them as they approach is futile when you have no team support.
> Ok, I am tired of these noobs voting in neutral flag when they don’t know how to play it. We are going to use Ragnarok as an example because it is typically the go-to map. When your team has the flag and brings it back to your base, if he isn’t scoring the flag right away…DO NOT BETRAY HIM SO THAT YOU CAN SCORE IT! That player isn’t scoring it for a reason and it is more often than not because the neutral area/the hill isn’t cleared from enemies. If that player scores the flag, he is basically giving the flag right to them. <mark>What you noobs should do is work as a team</mark> and clear the hill so that the flag carrier on your team can score it and you guys can get it right away.
I feel your pain, but it’s Halo 4, not Halo 2/3. The majority of Halo 4 players are casual players. Getting upset that the H4 scene is full of noobs and people that don’t understand teamwork is pointless. Halo 4 was made for causal players to play the game in a non-competitive way. Which may be why objective was removed. No real desire to coordinate as a team, just a bunch of individuals trying to stat pad their own spartan.
i am amused when kids are cursing me for not grabbing neutral flag when none of them are present (I instead am just over the hill with a SAW, waiting for backup and killing anyone that tries to come near).
That and i really hate being betrayed for holding the flag. If i get it and run to base - there will be no one at spawn…
I despise neutral flag unless I’m playing with my clan. It’s absolutely pointless to play if you’re by yourself or with another friend. You get no backup from teammates. They’re all just running around chasing butterflies and tea-bagging each other.
This is pretty much a daily occurrence for me. And I never get any opportunity to boot anybody when they betray me for this very reason. Three, four times - no boot. It’s incredibly frustrating.
I think it has a lot to do with the announcer/waypoints. When he says escort your flag carrier, all the noobs follow you back to your base when you are in no danger at all. He tells them how to play so they never think for themselves. Even the waypoint over the carrier says escort. So they all fall back and when the carrier doesn’t score they get confused. That’s where the waypoint is telling them to be but they aren’t really sure what to do when they get there. The solution is to either get rid of waypoints altogether or just add a waypoint over the new flag spawn saying “control”.
Generally I avoid grabbing the flag in neutral flag, I just stand near the flag spawn and slay as hard as I can. That’s really all you can do.
I typically let those who know more technique in what their doing to grab the flag, while I play defender for them. I am much more proficient in killing than I am in scoring or hiding or any other flag technique. When I go into CTF gametype, I know I won’t know as much as the more frequent players in the playlist so I usually take the backseat so I don’t die as much or ruin my K/D.
You can win neutral flag as long as you have at least two players on your team playing it correctly, meaning that they rush the flag and flag spawn. I’ve lost to teams who go negative in kills to deaths but still just physically moved the flag. CTF is great for those who can’t shoot to well, because it gives everyone a chance at helping. It’s just neutral flag that needs to be explained. After a couple games, its pretty obvious that you have to hold the middle before the flag is scored. With the right team, you can win game after game of neutral flag.
That’s a good point about the announcer. I wish 343 just made him say, “hold the middle of the map, noob.”
I hate having to play Neutral Flag in BTB. It’s like they just pick it to be annoying. They don’t use any strategy whatsoever, they don’t capture the flag and wait for it on the spawn point, and they can’t control the maps. All in all, it just makes me wish that I was still playing Halo 2 or 3.
- Grab a Warthog/Mongoose
- Reinforce the flag spawn
- gg
> 1. Grab a Warthog/Mongoose
> 2. Reinforce the flag spawn
> 3. gg
In a neutral flag game that my team somehow controls the hill on ragnarok (which if you have neutral flag in BTB, it will ALWAYS be ragnarok) - those mongooses and warthogs are nice laser stat padding objects.
No, you are not going to seize the hill alone unless your team bothers to help. You might be able to chain together a dozen kills if you already hold it, but much more and something is just going to go wrong.
The thing is that most people (especially noobs) like to go offensive instead of defensive causing deaths, losses ETC. Today when I played with friends, we did offensive and defensive causing a good time in king of the hill, oddball and CTF.
Thank god I got my Vanguard armor before neutral flag came out.
> > 1. Grab a Warthog/Mongoose
> > 2. Reinforce the flag spawn
> > 3. gg
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> In a neutral flag game that my team somehow controls the hill on ragnarok (which if you have neutral flag in BTB, it will ALWAYS be ragnarok) - those mongooses and warthogs are nice laser stat padding objects.
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> No, you are not going to seize the hill alone unless your team bothers to help. You might be able to chain together a dozen kills if you already hold it, but much more and something is just going to go wrong.
If you control the middle, you don’t have to worry about splasers…
Here is the proper technique:
1)run together on foot as a giant blob to grab the flag
2)no jumping.
3)take the flag back to your base as a team on foot as a giant blob.
4)no jumping allowed.
5)let the other team take there turn and score the flag. Chase after them as a giant on foot blob.
6)no jumping ever.
please and thank you.