How to make halo original (My thoughts)

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Dear people, this is OriginalHalo and i’m really concerned about the original halo spirit. 343, here is some points that me and my friends here in Finland had noticed. I hope you guys don’t mind and you’ll take this as a constructive gesture.

First things first:

Some matters, which did lose “the real halo spirit” after halo 3, is that bungie and 343 upgrade the game “better” versions!
For example: after halo 3 (skipping halo wars and ODST) came Reach… you can see differents between Halo 3 and Reach (not saying that all of these things are bad)

-Armor ability
-armor
-firefight
-better forge…
Etc.

Some of these new things change the way of halo, and when they do it, something in “the real halo spirit” will be removed and replaced new things, like abilities.

Ok, i know its cool to have some awesome things what you can use in the battlefields of matchmaking, like customize your armor, change visor color and do some loadouts. but try keep it halo, or it will change the way! It’s more like COD to me then… And that’s not good!

It’s coming totally new game, if 343 continue what Bungie stopped… Because Bungie lose it too after halo 3!

So what i suggest, is do halo 3, 2, 1 stuff… Forget all upgrades and try to do it halo way, and put some halo 1/2 things more, like Arbiter (I like playing both of them (Chief) and them teamwork was so cool in halo 3!), flood, old and new dropships, maybe Brutes some way. And try keep Master Chief same way as always (Btw I really don’t like halo 4 armors :confused: 80-90% are bad if asking me). Its good to bring some new things in halo like Forerunners, which is good.

When adding new things, try keep it halo way again. I know that you guys in 343 think about that, and try to do it best way. but these upgrades to COD makes me angry i’m sorry. This is one of the main reasons, which makes halo less halo.

Some advices

Sometimes things, what u can improve/upgrade better, it wouldn’t be so smart to upgrade, and remember that: “If you want something so much and you can’t get it, you want it more. When you get it, you don’t want it so much anymore.”
I hope that 343 use this when listening players thoughs!

-And make halo 4 floods immune to headshots!

-Keep firefight! (use both halo 1 and 3 dropships?)

-Bigger forge world than halo 4!

Congratulations for halo 4 campaing! It was good

Keep trying 343! It will succeed. Thank you for reading this, it was our thought.
And a bit random: can 343 do/show some covenant language? It would be so much fun to learn that!

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> So what i suggest, is do halo 3, 2, 1 stuff… Forget all upgrades and try to do it halo way, and put some halo 1/2 things more, like Arbiter (I like playing both of them (Chief) and them teamwork was so cool in halo 3!),

Honestly do you know how unfair it is to make a comparison like this? You would want to not change the Halo is played but you want CE AND H2 stuff. No fall damage, destructible vehicles, lock-on everything rockets, fully regenerating health, having no viable primary other than a BR or Carbine in the majority of starts due to duals being in, the AR being out and the maps until the first DLC’s being very precision-weapon friendly AND the Arbiter being playable in the campaign… Halo2 isn’t very much alike CE in many regards and you just can’t blanket them.
Reach and H4 have got nothing on H2 for changing Halo’s mechanics and both allow CE and H2 to be played in their near entirety through the options.
The difference is that Reach doesn’t have the BR and H4 has permanent sprint. Other than that the options are there for your old school Halo nearly to the T and nothing as drastic in comparison as H2 from CE.

> flood, old and new dropships, maybe Brutes some way. And try keep Master Chief same way as always (Btw I really don’t like halo 4 armors :confused: 80-90% are bad if asking me).

I miss my CE Mk.V and I want the H4 Mk.VI helm, but that we have the Mk.V in Reach and the H3Mk.VI in H4, well please don’t suggest we all have to look like you.
You can be the Chief in MP if you’d like, what’s the beef on there being variety? You can only wear 1 helm at a time.

> When adding new things, try keep it halo way again. I know that you guys in 343 think about that, and try to do it best way. but these upgrades to COD makes me angry i’m sorry. This is one of the main reasons, which makes halo less halo.

I don’t know if you read the books, seen the animations or even watched the FuD webseries but I dare you show me how thruster packs, jetpacks, active camo units, overshielding units and many other equipment and AA’s aren’t Halo?
Just because the Xbox was limited in technology doesn’t mean the Spartans never had toys.

> Sometimes things, what u can improve/upgrade better, it wouldn’t be so smart to upgrade, and remember that: “If you want something so much and you can’t get it, you want it more. When you get it, you don’t want it so much anymore.”
> I hope that 343 use this when listening players thoughs!

Likely the reason CTF, Oddball, Grifball, etc are the way they are. Through feedback this is what we have. Some of us think we deserve exactly what we want, but we don’t always know what we actually want.
But to be honest, let’s remember the Rocket 'Hog, it’s not need but it’s sure wanted.
Somethings wanted can return, but not every “demand” can nor should.

> -And make halo 4 floods immune to headshots!

No, no. Move the head and make them revive-able from another infected if killed. Make the Flood even more resilient and consistent whether AI or player control :smiley:

> -Keep firefight! (use both halo 1 and 3 dropships?)

We’re in 2557 now, I think it’s time we let the past go :slight_smile: Yet look at the Liches, they’re old yet new :wink: Having older “units” show up for a reason often activates nostalgia. Doing it for the wrong reasons can lead to much discontent.

> -Bigger forge world than halo 4!

Not at the expense of framerate and with 3 Forge canvases with the size that they are, perhaps slightly larger canvases. At no point do we need something that is under utilised and repeatative in aesthetics for the sake of nostalgia.

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> Ok, i know its cool to have some awesome things what you can use in the battlefields of matchmaking, like customize your armor, change visor color and do some loadouts. but try keep it halo, or it will change the way! It’s more like COD to me then… And that’s not good!

What? As someone who has played cod to see what it’s like, this is completely invalid.

  1. Cod has no armor customization, only facepaintings in a select few of the cod games. The only type of armor change in cod is the player model based on the class they choose such as sniper, assault, etc.

  2. I speak for no one but myself so this is opinion: I absolutely love customizing my armor. I couldn’t get XBL for so many years. I only got it after I was old enough to drive. My parents will let me drive but apparently XBL is too much to ask for. So I finally got XBL in November of 2012 before Halo 4 was released. I didn’t know that switching to XBL from an offline account in Reach would derank me horribly. I lost everything. I was an Inheritor offline (it’s easy because it give cR based off of time played on offline profiles). So I went back to Reach JUST to get my armor back. I still need my MJOLNIR Mk. VI helmet and I’ll have everything (currently Commander). Armor customization seems to be important for the majority of Halo players. It’s rare that someone hasn’t customized their armor at all, even with the crappy armor that Halo 4 has.

Cod wasn’t the first game to have loadouts and it certainly won’t be the last. I understand 343i got way too many inspirations from cod but at least some things in Halo 4 are still Halo. My point is loadouts aren’t copyrighted to cod or any other game. Halo 4 isn’t cod, not yet. And I hope it never will be.