i have been diamond 4 for 36 games now with 1 loss how do i go up if winning doesn’t work?
You need to prove that you deserve to increase in rank by playing better than the systems expects you to and beating players that are better than you. Halo 5 skill ranks aren’t a progression, you need to get better at the game to increase your rank
So me and my friends have been grinding all week I hit champion earlier and lost it since the. We haven’t been going up and we’ve been routinely winning while I was in onyx a win would grant one point and a loss would take 15, and we’ve tried a multitude of things to rank up as opposed to squading up we went solo double and triple que no avail put it in focused and no csr gains expanded and the same, how are we supposed to rank up by beating “better” players when we do beat them which is routine we don’t rank up. I’ve got a friend stuck in platinum whose been on a 20 game win streak with the rest of the squad I’d honestly like an investigation
I somehow doubt that
If that was the case, you’d go up for sure
Also, are you solo queuing or in a team?
I had an issue just a bit ago. My friends and I played about 20 matches today, and their ranks (one was diamond 2, one platinum 5) increased, while mine stayed locked at 2. My platinum team mate went up to diamond 1 by the end of it and the other diamond 4, and yet mine never budged. When I ran out of steam my last match and we lost, mine dropped and that was it. I feel cheated a bit to be honest, to bust -Yoink- and the game not rewarding me.
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> You need to prove that you deserve to increase in rank by playing better than the systems expects you to and beating players that are better than you. Halo 5 skill ranks aren’t a progression, you need to get better at the game to increase your rank
Better stats across the board means you’re going to increase your rank.
No it doesn’t… I have at 77% win percentage on team slayer. I’ve gone like 75-5 with a positive kda… and I’ve been on Diamond 5 THE WHOLE TIME. So I’m just about done with the game. Not worth it.
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> No it doesn’t… I have at 77% win percentage on team slayer. I’ve gone like 75-5 with a positive kda… and I’ve been on Diamond 5 THE WHOLE TIME. So I’m just about done with the game. Not worth it.
If the game expected you to get those stats, then you aren’t gonna move much.
TrueSkill 2 is heavily based on kills per minute and deaths per minute. Focus on winning and maximizing slays while minimizing deaths.
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> > No it doesn’t… I have at 77% win percentage on team slayer. I’ve gone like 75-5 with a positive kda… and I’ve been on Diamond 5 THE WHOLE TIME. So I’m just about done with the game. Not worth it.
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> If the game expected you to get those stats, then you aren’t gonna move much.
But then do you see how that sucks? Every game of Ranked Halo is sweaty (Especially at my D5/D6/Onyx level). So sometimes, in order to win, you have to die (whether it be for pushing ball/flag, distraction, putting shots down (exposing yourself), etc, in order to win. My win % is 77.3% (In Slayer), with a KDA of 2.03. If True Skill thinks I’m suppose to win 77.3% of my games, then why isn’t it matching me up with people that I have a “harder time beating”, so I can progress? Now I feel like I’m set up to just lose rank, with no gain what so ever. If a player with this high of a win percentage, can’t rank up, that’s a problem. True Skill win turn the game into trying to out slay your own teammates and doing dumb moves in order to pump up your kills.
Camping in the back and putting down fire is no longer an good strategy, has your kills won’t be high enough (5 kills, 2 deaths wont get you shxt).
Running with less than a group of 4 won’t will hurt you, as you will die more just from the organized team collapse (ex… going 17 and 12 won’t help you either).
Now imagine the “regular” working person, who only has 2 hours to play a day (wife/husband, kids, etc)… they have NO SHOT of ranking up, if wins aren’t weighed more than they are now. This is a waste of my time, if 77.3% win percentage, over the span of 88 games (I won 68 out of 88… that’s ABSURD) then why play the game?
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> But then do you see how that sucks? If True Skill thinks I’m suppose to win 77.3% of my games, then why isn’t it matching me up with people that I have a “harder time beating”, so I can progress?
Yes, I think it’s one of the flaws with this new system. There isn’t really any good visual indicators of the importance of a game with leveling up and how you performed in relation to that. For the other issue, it could be matching you against those people, but maybe you’re underperforming, performing as expected or it could be population issues and there isn’t anyone viable during your search. That’s something only Dr Menke would be able to answer.
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The answer to the question is that 343 is a joke and do all they can to destroy Halo for no reason. Devil minded fools.
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> But then do you see how that sucks? Every game of Ranked Halo is sweaty (Especially at my D5/D6/Onyx level). So sometimes, in order to win, you have to die (whether it be for pushing ball/flag, distraction, putting shots down (exposing yourself), etc, in order to win. My win % is 77.3% (In Slayer), with a KDA of 2.03. If True Skill thinks I’m suppose to win 77.3% of my games, then why isn’t it matching me up with people that I have a “harder time beating”, so I can progress? Now I feel like I’m set up to just lose rank, with no gain what so ever. If a player with this high of a win percentage, can’t rank up, that’s a problem. True Skill win turn the game into trying to out slay your own teammates and doing dumb moves in order to pump up your kills.
> Camping in the back and putting down fire is no longer an good strategy, has your kills won’t be high enough (5 kills, 2 deaths wont get you shxt).
> Running with less than a group of 4 won’t will hurt you, as you will die more just from the organized team collapse (ex… going 17 and 12 won’t help you either).
> Now imagine the “regular” working person, who only has 2 hours to play a day (wife/husband, kids, etc)… they have NO SHOT of ranking up, if wins aren’t weighed more than they are now. This is a waste of my time, if 77.3% win percentage, over the span of 88 games (I won 68 out of 88… that’s ABSURD) then why play the game?
I’ve given up on ranking up also, winning 75% of my matches and even winning 13-15 in a row is not helping my rank go up at all. Have a 2.13/1.35 kda/kd and have been comparing it to the onyx players we’ve been matched up against and somehow they have onyx with lower stats while I cant get out of d3-d5. Last guy that had onyx I compared it to was 1.65/1.07 and only winning 66% of his matches but somehow is an onyx. Playing with him I consistently outscore him but my rank never moves.
Reading through what 343 has posted my team and I appear to be winning more than our fair share and should be playing more difficult players and ranking up with this high of a win percentage. Instead we win 10+ in a row and dont move…then derank hard on one loss. Makes absolutely no sense to me.
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> So me and my friends have been grinding all week I hit champion earlier and lost it since the. We haven’t been going up and we’ve been routinely winning while I was in onyx a win would grant one point and a loss would take 15, and we’ve tried a multitude of things to rank up as opposed to squading up we went solo double and triple que no avail put it in focused and no csr gains expanded and the same, how are we supposed to rank up by beating “better” players when we do beat them which is routine we don’t rank up. I’ve got a friend stuck in platinum whose been on a 20 game win streak with the rest of the squad I’d honestly like an investigation
I’ve said the same about how I get better when I’m not ranking up or when I do rank up I can win 10 on a row then lose one and it drops my rank. When I’ve been on the losing team but was still the top player of either team, why did I go down a full rank. Why do get knocked a full rank when someone quits on my team. Why do I get knocked back a full rank when someone went 3-19, losing the match for us. Why do I get knocked back a full rank when the other team has a much better connection to the game.
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> You need to prove that you deserve to increase in rank by playing better than the systems expects you to and beating players that are better than you. Halo 5 skill ranks aren’t a progression, you need to get better at the game to increase your rank
This is the typical pompous response you’ll get from the monitors or their little cronies.
Its painfully obvious that this new ranking system, although has the best of intentions is not helping at all with the experience or with determining skill. KPM(kills per minute) is the only metric that holds the most weight in ranking and does not by any means amount to actual skill. It is only encouraging and causing sporadic play, quitting, and much frustration. The monitor’s can say what they want but I’ve played enough games these past 2 seasons not including this one to know this is going on and people are frustrated and not just “whining”, “expecting”, or “mad cause you can’t get carried by better players”. The full spectrum of what someone’s skill per individual playlist is not fully represented. To say that KPM is the best way to determine skill, is just like saying someone who hits the most homeruns in baseball is the best way to determine skill cause those are instant points for the team. Enough with the empty answers from the monitor’s for this post is not for you. It’s for the people inquiring. If this post is blocked or hidden, the people will see how much you really care about our opinions on the game.
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> > So me and my friends have been grinding all week I hit champion earlier and lost it since the. We haven’t been going up and we’ve been routinely winning while I was in onyx a win would grant one point and a loss would take 15, and we’ve tried a multitude of things to rank up as opposed to squading up we went solo double and triple que no avail put it in focused and no csr gains expanded and the same, how are we supposed to rank up by beating “better” players when we do beat them which is routine we don’t rank up. I’ve got a friend stuck in platinum whose been on a 20 game win streak with the rest of the squad I’d honestly like an investigation
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> > You need to prove that you deserve to increase in rank by playing better than the systems expects you to and beating players that are better than you. Halo 5 skill ranks aren’t a progression, you need to get better at the game to increase your rank
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> Its painfully obvious that this new ranking system, although has the best of intentions is not helping at all with the experience or with determining skill. KPM(kills per minute) is the only metric that holds the most weight in ranking and does not by any means amount to actual skill. It is only encouraging and causing sporadic play, quitting, and much frustration. The monitor’s can say what they want but I’ve played enough games these past 2 seasons not including this one to know this is going on and people are frustrated and not just “whining”, “expecting”, or “mad cause you can’t get carried by better players”. The full spectrum of what someone’s skill per individual playlist is not fully represented. To say that KPM is the best way to determine skill, is just like saying someone who hits the most homeruns in baseball is the best way to determine skill cause those are instant points for the team. Enough with the empty answers from the monitor’s for this post is not for you. It’s for the people inquiring. If this post is blocked or hidden, the people will see how much you really care about our opinions on the game.
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Yeah I have not heard one positive comment on the new ranking system from anyone I’ve played with. I’m firmly in the “its broken” camp also.
I’ve variously seen several of the following explanations on the forums here
- Win rate is a huge factor - This does not appear to be the case at all, 10-20 game win streaks and barely move, 1 loss deranks us a lot
- Beat better players - We’ve beaten high diamond/onyx/champ players and also see no movement as far as ranking up or very slight.
- KD ratio is a huge factor wins/losses don’t matter - Again doesn’t seem to make a difference, last night a buddy and I went 7-2 playing doubles and I had 113 kills, 37 assists and 53 deaths, I ended up down ranking slightly for the night with awesome stats.
I also saw another doubles champ, she has won 38 games, lost 39 and is a champ with a losing record this season??? Please explain that.
It would sure be great if we could get someone from 343 to explain the system in plain English. I’ve read through Microsofts whitepaper on trueskill 2 and can’t seem to find any explanation from that as to how I’m stuck at where I’m at.
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> i have been diamond 4 for 36 games now with 1 loss how do i go up if winning doesn’t work?
I agree with the W7M, it happens to me the same
Good morning
I really do not understand how it is possible that this game would not allow me to reach champion. I had and even Diamond 6 and what happened?
It happened that although he won he would not be able to go up more, played with many people and maintained good level, and the fatality of the game is:
- I lost and got too low, and won again and did not rise, the truth I am too sad, because as it is possible that other people if they can, And being playing with me and they are in champions, currently my profile no longer goes up, I just lose a game and keep going don.I am currently in the game to remove the skins from the Magnum and already. I’m very sad about that. I am a very competitive woman but I do not understand well, what is the problem with my profile.
What amazes me most is that people with new accounts play 25 to 27 games and are champions, that’s terrible, 167 games I took.
And it was not even enough to win 15 games in a row, because it’s no use playing winning, but playing to lose.
I wonder if there are answers to this that happens to me in SWAT. Not being more, thanks for the attention that I. Can lend.
If you review the champions ’ victories and defeats from 51 to 75 Swat, it’s a farce. It’s not understandable. And if you compared my K/D With some of them, you’re not going to understand what’s going on like I happened to me
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> I really do not understand how it is possible that this game would not allow me to reach champion. I had and even Diamond 6 and what happened?
> It happened that although he won he would not be able to go up more, played with many people and maintained good level, and the fatality of the game is:
> - I lost and got too low, and won again and did not rise, the truth I am too sad, because as it is possible that other people if they can, And being playing with me and they are in champions, currently my profile no longer goes up, I just lose a game and keep going don.I am currently in the game to remove the skins from the Magnum and already. I’m very sad about that. I am a very competitive woman but I do not understand well, what is the problem with my profile.
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> What amazes me most is that people with new accounts play 25 to 27 games and are champions, that’s terrible, 167 games I took.
> And it was not even enough to win 15 games in a row, because it’s no use playing winning, but playing to lose.
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> I wonder if there are answers to this that happens to me in SWAT. Not being more, thanks for the attention that I. Can lend.
your KPM is too low for a onyx, last season i had 4 KPM (16 kill per game) and i was a low onyx (1600)
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> You need to prove that you deserve to increase in rank by playing better than the systems expects you to and beating players that are better than you. Halo 5 skill ranks aren’t a progression, you need to get better at the game to increase your rank
I don’t like a system where you get a locked rank. Its less fun becouse you don’t see any progression. Rather see a system with points like halo 3, where you build up slowly. Mabye an idea to create a playlist with that system and get feedback?