I bet 343 expected atleast 5k-15k people on it every day but no its sadly only has about 1-5k on average. Why? Well i THINK these are the reasons why.
The are way too many NON-DMR start games types.
There isn’t enough slayer games, out of the 6 options, thats is if you veto the first 3, 2 maybe be dmrs, 2 AR start and the other 4 objective, This playlist is mostly, i assume for the good’ol guys that love slayer and classic halo. Yes I like objective but i start to wonder after a while after i have played 2dmr games and 4 objective. I think there should be 1 ZB DMR, 1 85% and 1 objective each and every voting round.
People complain about zero bloom and some about 85%, Which is it going to be at the end of the day? Don’t you guys get it 343? People have asked for zero bloom so just give it to them, now you have given us 2 options and its just causing whining, even me. If i had no choice whether zero or 85% i would actually be happy just liek i was on halo 3.
The pistol is over powered, people have said that already, and i will say it again, and don’t worry someone else will later on anyway.
There are still too many forge maps, I am so tired of seeing the same blue walls, the same items, the same figuers the same landscape and the same faulty forge errors on them, its so boring. I like asylum and uncaged, but still there is too many forge world maps.
Why didn’t 343 do something to the grenades? The beta doesn’t really offer anything but ZB, which many kids don’t even know what the heck it is and evenless what bleed through is. I feel like i get an airstrike of grenades every game i play.
You said we would see new things while the TU is running, so far just bleed through and ZB, which we already knew, so what’s the new stuff?
8.You should have atleast given us ONE CEA map just so that the BETA could be played more and people could experience ZB and bleed through and the population can know how it changes the game for the better.
Just becuase many people, the younger ones play the objective games and those are the ones that have the most population, you thought you should add them to the TU? Wrong, The people that play those games like,actionsack,griffball and goofy games like that are casual players that don’t even care about the game having ZB and bleed through, so why make the game appeal to them instead of us dedicated players? (Yes i do like actionsack and all but i rarely play them!)
Why don’t you give out better jackpots for the TU, I mean if i were 343 i would be doing everything possible to get people to tryout the TU. Im not saying there should be 25,000 jackpots every games but every 5-10 games you should recieve 5-10k pots.
Overall I like the TU becuase as you can tell the list is short it’s just 10 complaints, some may agree some may not. The list would have been 100 complaints long if it were about vanilla reach so the game did indeed improve, but does need more. I know 343i is working very hard for us but taking away bloom and adding bleed through doesn’t take a long time to do and i also doubt it was a very hard and complex task, I think the TU should have delivered more, The TU should have had one or 2 CEA maps and more DMR start games so we can feel the difference. I actually like 85% bloom also, i don’t know which to pick, but i might go for 85% becuase the pistol is Over Powered, but if they decide on ZERO then so be it, I will play halo as long as i have hands just like i have for the past 8 years.
So what do you people think? I mean classic halo games have had millions of players online, and the TU did not have the success that was expected, and since the TU is suppose to feel like a more classic halo, why did it not deliver, something must be wrong, the stuff that i stated is not absolute, there many be other things i miss becuase i know that a halo with a more classic feel should have more players wanting to play it.
I only bothered with it once. Didn’t like it at all.
The way I see it, all these complaints and demands for these changes, and then when they are actually applied, people realize “vanilla” Reach is better.
> I only bothered with it once. Didn’t like it at all.
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> The way I see it, all these complaints and demands for these changes, and then when they are actually applied, people realize “vanilla” Reach is better.
LOL vanilla reach caused halo to fall out of the number 1 spot on XBL. Randomness is not better. The TU playlist just did not take into account any of the settings adjustments we have been talking about.
> > I only bothered with it once. Didn’t like it at all.
> >
> > The way I see it, all these complaints and demands for these changes, and then when they are actually applied, people realize “vanilla” Reach is better.
>
> LOL vanilla reach caused halo to fall out of the number 1 spot on XBL. Randomness is not better. The TU playlist just did not take into account any of the settings adjustments we have been talking about.
Do you honestly believe that? How naive. Halo fell out of the number 1 spot on XBL because of how popular Call of Duty became. Halo’s time as number 1 is long over.
And implementing this TU won’t make any Earth-shattering population increases, either.
> > > I only bothered with it once. Didn’t like it at all.
> > >
> > > The way I see it, all these complaints and demands for these changes, and then when they are actually applied, people realize “vanilla” Reach is better.
> >
> > LOL vanilla reach caused halo to fall out of the number 1 spot on XBL. Randomness is not better. The TU playlist just did not take into account any of the settings adjustments we have been talking about.
>
> Do you honestly believe that? How naive. Halo fell out of the number 1 spot on XBL because of how popular Call of Duty became. Halo’s time as number 1 is long over.
>
> And implementing this TU won’t make any Earth-shattering population increases, either.
Do you honestly believe that?
No, it is because reach sucked. It has the worst attrition of any Halo game.
> > > > I only bothered with it once. Didn’t like it at all.
> > > >
> > > > The way I see it, all these complaints and demands for these changes, and then when they are actually applied, people realize “vanilla” Reach is better.
> > >
> > > LOL vanilla reach caused halo to fall out of the number 1 spot on XBL. Randomness is not better. The TU playlist just did not take into account any of the settings adjustments we have been talking about.
> >
> > Do you honestly believe that? How naive. Halo fell out of the number 1 spot on XBL because of how popular Call of Duty became. Halo’s time as number 1 is long over.
> >
> > And implementing this TU won’t make any Earth-shattering population increases, either.
>
> Do you honestly believe that?
> No, it is because reach sucked. It has the worst attrition of any Halo game.
The CoD series has been steadily gaining ground on Halo for a long time, and gaining new players with each release. No one can say definitively why Reach is #4.
> I only bothered with it once. Didn’t like it at all.
>
> The way I see it, all these complaints and demands for these changes, and then when they are actually applied, people realize “vanilla” Reach is better.
Lol, Looks like someone got smashed on. So you played one gametype, how could you even form an opinion on it after one try. That’s like me trying to review a game and play it for 10 mins and think its trash.
The movement speeds are far too slow for the increase in kill times. If you speed one thing up, You have to speed up the other aspects of the game as well.
> > > > > I only bothered with it once. Didn’t like it at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > The way I see it, all these complaints and demands for these changes, and then when they are actually applied, people realize “vanilla” Reach is better.
> > > >
> > > > LOL vanilla reach caused halo to fall out of the number 1 spot on XBL. Randomness is not better. The TU playlist just did not take into account any of the settings adjustments we have been talking about.
> > >
> > > Do you honestly believe that? How naive. Halo fell out of the number 1 spot on XBL because of how popular Call of Duty became. Halo’s time as number 1 is long over.
> > >
> > > And implementing this TU won’t make any Earth-shattering population increases, either.
> >
> > Do you honestly believe that?
> > No, it is because reach sucked. It has the worst attrition of any Halo game.
>
> The CoD series has been steadily gaining ground on Halo for a long time, and gaining new players with each release. No one can say definitively why Reach is #4.
OMFG none of the COD games ever took over Halo 3 . Yet reach got dominated by BOTH COD games right out the box. What’s with it and you guys and being in denial? Reach was a failure to many Halo players. You defend it because you like it, which is ok. But it should be obvious that something failed and MADE players leave.
> > > > > > I only bothered with it once. Didn’t like it at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The way I see it, all these complaints and demands for these changes, and then when they are actually applied, people realize “vanilla” Reach is better.
> > > > >
> > > > > LOL vanilla reach caused halo to fall out of the number 1 spot on XBL. Randomness is not better. The TU playlist just did not take into account any of the settings adjustments we have been talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Do you honestly believe that? How naive. Halo fell out of the number 1 spot on XBL because of how popular Call of Duty became. Halo’s time as number 1 is long over.
> > > >
> > > > And implementing this TU won’t make any Earth-shattering population increases, either.
> > >
> > > Do you honestly believe that?
> > > No, it is because reach sucked. It has the worst attrition of any Halo game.
> >
> > The CoD series has been steadily gaining ground on Halo for a long time, and gaining new players with each release. No one can say definitively why Reach is #4.
>
> OMFG none of the COD games ever took over Halo 3 . Yet reach got dominated by BOTH COD games right out the box. What’s with it and you guys and being in denial? Reach was a failure to many Halo players. You defend it because you like it, which is ok. But it should be obvious that something failed and MADE players leave.
> OMFG none of the COD games ever took over Halo 3 . Yet reach got dominated by BOTH COD games right out the box. What’s with it and you guys and being in denial? Reach was a failure to many Halo players. You defend it because you like it, which is ok. But it should be obvious that something failed and MADE players leave.
Untrue. Check your history Halo 3 traded the #1 spot several times with other games.
> > OMFG none of the COD games ever took over Halo 3 . Yet reach got dominated by BOTH COD games right out the box. What’s with it and you guys and being in denial? Reach was a failure to many Halo players. You defend it because you like it, which is ok. But it should be obvious that something failed and MADE players leave.
>
> Untrue. Check your history Halo 3 traded the #1 spot several times with other games.
> > > OMFG none of the COD games ever took over Halo 3 . Yet reach got dominated by BOTH COD games right out the box. What’s with it and you guys and being in denial? Reach was a failure to many Halo players. You defend it because you like it, which is ok. But it should be obvious that something failed and MADE players leave.
> >
> > Untrue. Check your history Halo 3 traded the #1 spot several times with other games.
>
> You see, its always reclaimed it’s spot
>
> not so much with reach.
Oh, it certainly did. I never said that. But to claim it never fell behind a CoD game, or any other game, is just absurd.
> > > > OMFG none of the COD games ever took over Halo 3 . Yet reach got dominated by BOTH COD games right out the box. What’s with it and you guys and being in denial? Reach was a failure to many Halo players. You defend it because you like it, which is ok. But it should be obvious that something failed and MADE players leave.
> > >
> > > Untrue. Check your history Halo 3 traded the #1 spot several times with other games.
> >
> > You see, its always reclaimed it’s spot
> >
> > not so much with reach.
>
> Oh, it certainly did. I never said that. But to claim it never fell behind a CoD game, or any other game, is just absurd.
Its true though, The COD games never effected Halo 3 that much That’s what He meant, or At least I think that., right now Reach is getting stomped on by two cod games, Which one of them is 2 years old.
> > > > OMFG none of the COD games ever took over Halo 3 . Yet reach got dominated by BOTH COD games right out the box. What’s with it and you guys and being in denial? Reach was a failure to many Halo players. You defend it because you like it, which is ok. But it should be obvious that something failed and MADE players leave.
> > >
> > > Untrue. Check your history Halo 3 traded the #1 spot several times with other games.
> >
> > You see, its always reclaimed it’s spot
> >
> > not so much with reach.
>
> Oh, it certainly did. I never said that. But to claim it never fell behind a CoD game, or any other game, is just absurd.
Trading spots when a NEW game comes out is expected, but like reason said H3 always was back on top. WHY??? Because it had something that reach does NOT. What that “IT” is is debatable and those theories of why might even be fully inclusive. Who knows for sure? But when a game does badly I don’t blame other games, especially when they have done NOTHING to change the way they are played and keep spitting out the same thing, while Reach does something totally different and fails…hmmmmmm…
> > > > > OMFG none of the COD games ever took over Halo 3 . Yet reach got dominated by BOTH COD games right out the box. What’s with it and you guys and being in denial? Reach was a failure to many Halo players. You defend it because you like it, which is ok. But it should be obvious that something failed and MADE players leave.
> > > >
> > > > Untrue. Check your history Halo 3 traded the #1 spot several times with other games.
> > >
> > > You see, its always reclaimed it’s spot
> > >
> > > not so much with reach.
> >
> > Oh, it certainly did. I never said that. But to claim it never fell behind a CoD game, or any other game, is just absurd.
>
> Trading spots when a NEW game comes out is expected, but like reason said H3 always was back on top. WHY??? Because it had something that reach does NOT. What that “IT” is is debatable and those theories of why might even be fully inclusive. Who knows for sure? But when a game does badly I don’t blame other games, especially when they have done NOTHING to change the way they are played and keep spitting out the same thing, while Reach does something totally different and fails…hmmmmmm…
I guess the only way to tell for sure is to see how H4 fairs. I hope it’s exactly like H3, then we’ll be able to tell for sure.
But if you ask me, I think another member said it best:
> Reach still lasted a year against other high name releases like Black Ops which was one of the best selling 360 games of all time. I don’t think it’s anything against Reach that it is slowing down against all the other triple A games out there. The fact that it lasted this long is an indication of how good it was despite its hardcore community’s opinions.
This isn’t 2007. It’s a whole different ballgame out there. There are more triple A titles now than there have ever been. Don’t kid yourself, the competition is much more stiff. Each title is gunning for that top spot. With new games in a series dropping every year, you’ll NEVER see another run like H3 had again.
Call of Duty didn’t start to climb up the ladder until CoD 4, which came out a month after Halo 3. At that time they were equal competitors, the gave and took, but CoD soon came out on top.
Halo isn’t as popular as it used to be not because of Halo: Reach. Halo isn’t as popular as it used to be because other games have come out and a new generation of gamers have risen up.
> Call of Duty didn’t start to climb up the ladder until CoD 4, which came out a month after Halo 3. At that time they were equal competitors, the gave and took, but CoD soon came out on top.
>
> Halo isn’t as popular as it used to be not because of Halo: Reach. Halo isn’t as popular as it used to be because other games have come out and a new generation of gamers have risen up.
But you cannot say that because Reach is so drastically different than any other Halo games. That’s why it is called Reach. Halo is still popular, there just was not a new Halo game released. There was Reach released.
> Honestly, Halo 4 just needs to retain what made the first 3 games good.
> Also marketing plays a huge role in everything. Remember halo 2 mountain dew?
