How long must we wait?

Games Other Halo
1

I’ve lurked around on the forums for a few months before halo 4 came out. Either some of you are the most patient people in the world or you are complete fan boys.

The same revised response I have seen to negative feedback since watching these forums:

You haven’t played the game yet. Wait until it comes out.

after e3 pax prototype:

You haven’t played the game yet. Wait until it comes out.
I have played it at (E3 Pax)
Well that’s just a prototype. Wait until the build is finalized.

after eurogamer or comic con (games gone gold):

You haven’t even played the game yet. wait till it comes out
I played the final build at (eurogamer comic con)
Well you haven’t played online multiplayer yet. just wait, you’ll see.

After game release:

The game hasn’t even been out for (a week, 2 weeks, a month). You expect the game to be perfect on release? Wait until the first title update.

I don’t care about some glitch in some vent on complex getting fixed. If you’re stupid enough to keep going over there trying to get the guy sitting in there, you deserve to keep getting killed. I care about actual gameplay, the competitive gameplay that halo once had.

So, my question is, how long must we wait?

2

I’ve heard that there’s a TU coming with the next season of SOps but i don’t really know.

3

While I fully support this thread, I’m also kinda prepared to wait. There’s so much good stuff sitting underneath the load of crap in this game, and, if the crap goes away, then I’ll be happy I waited. Until then, come on 343i, fix what you can.

4

> While I fully support this thread, I’m also kinda prepared to wait. There’s so much good stuff sitting underneath the load of crap in this game, and, if the crap goes away, then I’ll be happy I waited. Until then, come on 343i, fix what you can.

this

5

> There’s so much good stuff sitting underneath the load of crap in this game, and, if the crap goes away, then I’ll be happy I waited.

I agree with this completely.
earlier today I was just walking around in a custom game by myself finding different ways to get to ring 3 on abandon. if you don’t sprint at all, it feels just like halo ce - 3, minus the millions of ordnance drops and weapon labels that pop up all over the map.

If they create a playlist that has set weapon spawns, single starting loadout, and sprint disabled, it would be close to perfect in my eyes. I just want a playlist that I and others like myself can enjoy as much as those who enjoy playing infinity slayer. I’m guessing the MLG playlist is going to be the one that does away with these things.

6

Oh and instant re-spawn, which I do think is glitched right now in custom game options and will be fixed soon.

7

I heard there’s an update coming…never…

343 hasn’t been listening to any of their fans. If they are, they are doing an excellent job of keeping it secret and not showing it. I am very frustrated by them. They trash Halo, and don’t fix it. They get no more time to fix these issues, when it comes to competitive first person games, you have to be quick, otherwise people will just leave.

Of course the fanboys will say “give it more time” or “you guys need to be more patient” but no, go back to CoD and quit trying to dumb down halo

8

> <mark>“You expect the game to be perfect on release? Wait until the first title update.”</mark>

Funny people should say something like this… Ya know, when, back in the old days of gaming, if a game wasn’t done it wasn’t -Yoinking!- released! As Hideo Kojima said, a respectable man and creator of Metal Gear and Zone Of Enders, “A good game is good eventually, but a bad game is bad forever.”

So, YES, I would expect a game to be finished upon its release!!!

9

I agree a game shouldn’t be released if it isn’t finished but, I don’t want to put the blame on 343i. If the people at 343i were truly working as many hours as they said they were, I refuse to discredit all the hard work that they put into the game and believe it has to be microsofts fault for rushing the release.

some acknowledgement about future fixes and additions would be nice though.

10

> Ya know, when, back in the old days of gaming, if a game wasn’t done it wasn’t -Yoinking!- released!

Exactly. No one would ever release an incomplete book and then try to patch it up by releasing extra chapters on the internet, just as no one would ever release an incomplete movie and then ask you to watch the final scenes on YouTube. There is no excuse for releasing something that isn’t finished (with the possible exception of “Microsoft made us”, and even then additional material, such as Spartan Ops, should be cut in order to polish the major components of the game).

11

I haven’t given up on Halo 4, but for right now, I just don’t want to play the multiplayer anymore.

12

At the very least, a year.

13

> I heard there’s an update coming…never…
>
> 343 hasn’t been listening to any of their fans. If they are, they are doing an excellent job of keeping it secret and not showing it. I am very frustrated by them. They trash Halo, and don’t fix it. They get no more time to fix these issues, when it comes to competitive first person games, you have to be quick, otherwise people will just leave.
>
> Of course the fanboys will say “give it more time” or “you guys need to be more patient” but no, go back to CoD and quit trying to dumb down halo

That’s pretty arrogant to think that 343i is not going to fix their own game just because, lord have mercy on your soul, they haven’t “fixed” it within 3-4 weeks. God, it’s amazing they are even pushing out weekly updates because I don’t know many devs that do that.

14

They are on vacation right now, wait for December we should at least hear something from some person
Right?

15

I just hope they do what needs to be done.

16

> I heard there’s an update coming…never…
>
> 343 hasn’t been listening to any of their fans. If they are, they are doing an excellent job of keeping it secret and not showing it. I am very frustrated by them. They trash Halo, and don’t fix it. They get no more time to fix these issues, when it comes to competitive first person games, you have to be quick, otherwise people will just leave.
>
> Of course the fanboys will say “give it more time” or “you guys need to be more patient” but no, go back to CoD and quit trying to dumb down halo

From 343i on this board
<mark>"This thread will be used to communicate issues we are currently investigating and provide troubleshooting tips. If you are experiencing issues, please reply with as many details as possible.</mark>

Cannot install Disc 2 content
If you’re experiencing issues installing Disk 2 content, choose “Spartan Ops” or “War Games” in the menu. You will see a message saying you need to install the content. Please choose the “Download from Xbox LIVE” option.

If you have done a partial install with Disc 2 (aka your last install was either corrupt or interrupted), delete the old package before attempting the reinstall process. You can delete the old package by following the below steps:

  1. Go to the Xbox Dashboard
  2. Go to the “Settings” tab
  3. Select “System”
  4. Select “Storage”
  5. Select “All Devices”
  6. Select “Games and Apps”
  7. Select “Halo 4” from the list of games
  8. Select “Spartan Ops Season 1.0”
  9. Select “Delete”
  10. Select “Yes” to confirm
  11. After it deletes that package, select “War Games” from the list
  12. Select “Delete”
  13. Select “Yes” to confirm

Xbox crashes when going to Halo Waypoint from Halo 4
Try deleting Halo Waypoint and reinstalling it.

DLC disappears after console reboot
<mark>UPDATE: We have identified the root cause of this issue and are currently working on a fix.</mark>
Check to see if you have downloaded the content properly.

Have you switched Xboxes between redeeming the content?
Have you tried re-downloading the item from your account’s “Download History”?
From the Xbox Dashboard: Settings->Account->Download History

If you have the content properly downloaded, try restarting the game. This sometimes doesn’t work, and we are continuing to investigate this issue.

DLC unavailable for other profiles on the same console
<mark>UPDATE: We have identified the root cause of this issue and are currently working on a fix.</mark>
We are investigating this issue. Currently the LIVE account that redeemed the code gets access to the bonus content, as does any Guest or Temp accounts on that same Xbox.

Unable to load Campaign and/or matchmake
<mark>Both our internal team and the Xbox team are actively engaged and working on this. We’re making progress and are getting closer to identifying the root cause. We will provide an update when we have one.</mark>

If you are unable to load a Campaign mission, returned to the title screen or crash in Matchmaking (immediately after the countdown or while the map is loading), or having trouble installing Disk 1 to your hard drive, please try the following: If you have a hard drive with enough free space, please attempt to install Disk 1 to your hard drive. If the install fails, please send us the following information, as it will help us identify the issue.

Console ID (you can find your Xbox 360 Console ID using these instructions: Microsoft Connect is Retired - Collaborate | Microsoft Docs
Service Date (found on the back of the console).
Serial Number (found in the System Info screen or on the back of the console)
Product ID (found on the back of the console)

Spartan Ops Episode of Legend Weekly Challenge
UPDATE: This issue has been resolved.
Upon completion of the Episode of Legend Weekly Challenge, some players did not get a notification that they received 3,000 XP. However, if the challenge showed as completed on the Challenge page, the payout was issued. We are currently investigating why the notification did not appear in-game.

Latency/lag issues when matchmaking with non-regional players
<mark>UPDATE: This issue has been resolved.</mark>
We are aware and investigating this issue.

Completed Campaign but missing achievements
Upon completing Campaign, some players find they are missing certain achievements. If you pause, you must use the “Resume Campaign” button to resume. If you choose “Rally Point Bravo” or “Rally Point Charlie”, this issue arises. We are investigating but for now, replay the missions from beginning to end using only the “Save and Quit” and “Resume Campaign” options to unlock the relevant achievements.

Issues with in-game sounds and cutscenes
If you are experiencing issues with in-game sounds and/or cutscenes, please send us the following information, as it will assist us with our investigation.

What kind of Xbox do you have?

Launch – original body with no HDMI
Elite – original body with HDMI
Slim – New body

What is your audio source? Look at the back of your console to determine which cable you are using.

HDMI
Analogue line out (component or AV cables)
Digital optical out

What is your monitoring setup? (What are you using to hear the sounds?)

AV receiver
Audio output (7.1, 5.1 etc)
TV speakers
Headphones

Are you playing off disc or is the game installed?

Unable to use the “Search” feature for the Halo 4 File Share
File Search is not available at this time, and we’re currently investigating. In the interim, you can still create, tag, upload/download and provide/receive recommendations on user-generated content using the in-game “File Browser” feature found in “Settings & Files”. Use the “File Share Search” option for any of the file variants (screenshots, films, etc.) and search by gamertag to locate and view the contents of other users’ File Shares."

Just saying, you may want to you know *do research before you slander them, on their own site.

Do you want some ketchup and mustard with those words? it would make them taste better.

Good Hunting Spartans,

Rabid Kiwi

17

> > I heard there’s an update coming…never…
> >
> > 343 hasn’t been listening to any of their fans. If they are, they are doing an excellent job of keeping it secret and not showing it. I am very frustrated by them. They trash Halo, and don’t fix it. They get no more time to fix these issues, when it comes to competitive first person games, you have to be quick, otherwise people will just leave.
> >
> > Of course the fanboys will say “give it more time” or “you guys need to be more patient” but no, go back to CoD and quit trying to dumb down halo
>
> From 343i on this board
> <mark>“This thread will be used to communicate issues we are currently investigating and provide troubleshooting tips. If you are experiencing issues, please reply with as many details as possible.</mark>
>
>
> Cannot install Disc 2 content
> If you’re experiencing issues installing Disk 2 content, choose “Spartan Ops” or “War Games” in the menu. You will see a message saying you need to install the content. Please choose the “Download from Xbox LIVE” option.
>
> If you have done a partial install with Disc 2 (aka your last install was either corrupt or interrupted), delete the old package before attempting the reinstall process. You can delete the old package by following the below steps:
>
> 1. Go to the Xbox Dashboard
> 2. Go to the “Settings” tab
> 3. Select “System”
> 4. Select “Storage”
> 5. Select “All Devices”
> 6. Select “Games and Apps”
> 7. Select “Halo 4” from the list of games
> 8. Select “Spartan Ops Season 1.0”
> 9. Select “Delete”
> 10. Select “Yes” to confirm
> 11. After it deletes that package, select “War Games” from the list
> 12. Select “Delete”
> 13. Select “Yes” to confirm
>
>
> Xbox crashes when going to Halo Waypoint from Halo 4
> Try deleting Halo Waypoint and reinstalling it.
>
>
> DLC disappears after console reboot
> <mark>UPDATE: We have identified the root cause of this issue and are currently working on a fix.</mark>
> Check to see if you have downloaded the content properly.
>
> Have you switched Xboxes between redeeming the content?
> Have you tried re-downloading the item from your account’s “Download History”?
> From the Xbox Dashboard: Settings->Account->Download History
>
>
> If you have the content properly downloaded, try restarting the game. This sometimes doesn’t work, and we are continuing to investigate this issue.
>
>
> DLC unavailable for other profiles on the same console
> <mark>UPDATE: We have identified the root cause of this issue and are currently working on a fix.</mark>
> We are investigating this issue. Currently the LIVE account that redeemed the code gets access to the bonus content, as does any Guest or Temp accounts on that same Xbox.
>
>
> Unable to load Campaign and/or matchmake
> <mark>Both our internal team and the Xbox team are actively engaged and working on this. We’re making progress and are getting closer to identifying the root cause. We will provide an update when we have one.</mark>
>
> If you are unable to load a Campaign mission, returned to the title screen or crash in Matchmaking (immediately after the countdown or while the map is loading), or having trouble installing Disk 1 to your hard drive, please try the following: If you have a hard drive with enough free space, please attempt to install Disk 1 to your hard drive. If the install fails, please send us the following information, as it will help us identify the issue.
>
> Console ID (you can find your Xbox 360 Console ID using these instructions: Microsoft Connect is Retired - Collaborate | Microsoft Docs
> Service Date (found on the back of the console).
> Serial Number (found in the System Info screen or on the back of the console)
> Product ID (found on the back of the console)
>
>
>
>
> Spartan Ops Episode of Legend Weekly Challenge
> UPDATE: This issue has been resolved.
> Upon completion of the Episode of Legend Weekly Challenge, some players did not get a notification that they received 3,000 XP. However, if the challenge showed as completed on the Challenge page, the payout was issued. We are currently investigating why the notification did not appear in-game.
>
>
> Latency/lag issues when matchmaking with non-regional players
> <mark>UPDATE: This issue has been resolved.</mark>
> We are aware and investigating this issue.
>
>
> Completed Campaign but missing achievements
> Upon completing Campaign, some players find they are missing certain achievements. If you pause, you must use the “Resume Campaign” button to resume. If you choose “Rally Point Bravo” or “Rally Point Charlie”, this issue arises. We are investigating but for now, replay the missions from beginning to end using only the “Save and Quit” and “Resume Campaign” options to unlock the relevant achievements.
>
>
> Issues with in-game sounds and cutscenes
> If you are experiencing issues with in-game sounds and/or cutscenes, please send us the following information, as it will assist us with our investigation.
>
> What kind of Xbox do you have?
>
> Launch – original body with no HDMI
> Elite – original body with HDMI
> Slim – New body
>
>
> What is your audio source? Look at the back of your console to determine which cable you are using.
>
> HDMI
> Analogue line out (component or AV cables)
> Digital optical out
>
>
> What is your monitoring setup? (What are you using to hear the sounds?)
>
> AV receiver
> Audio output (7.1, 5.1 etc)
> TV speakers
> Headphones
>
>
> Are you playing off disc or is the game installed?
>
>
> Unable to use the “Search” feature for the Halo 4 File Share
> File Search is not available at this time, and we’re currently investigating. In the interim, you can still create, tag, upload/download and provide/receive recommendations on user-generated content using the in-game “File Browser” feature found in “Settings & Files”. Use the “File Share Search” option for any of the file variants (screenshots, films, etc.) and search by gamertag to locate and view the contents of other users’ File Shares.”
>
>
> Just saying, you may want to you know *do research before you slander them, on their own site.
>
> Do you want some ketchup and mustard with those words? it would make them taste better.
>
> Good Hunting Spartans,
>
> Rabid Kiwi

I cannot thank you enough for that info. Maybe some people would think twice about attacking 343i.

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> > I heard there’s an update coming…never…
> >
> > 343 hasn’t been listening to any of their fans. If they are, they are doing an excellent job of keeping it secret and not showing it. I am very frustrated by them. They trash Halo, and don’t fix it. They get no more time to fix these issues, when it comes to competitive first person games, you have to be quick, otherwise people will just leave.
> >
> > Of course the fanboys will say “give it more time” or “you guys need to be more patient” but no, go back to CoD and quit trying to dumb down halo
>
> That’s pretty arrogant to think that 343i is not going to fix their own game just because, lord have mercy on your soul, they haven’t “fixed” it within 3-4 weeks. God, it’s amazing they are even pushing out weekly updates because I don’t know many devs that do that.

You consider an update to be switching out one playlist for another?.. i have nothing to say

considering how many complaint threads there are, i shouldn’t need to explain myself any further, I had no idea i was walking into another fanboy trap thread

19

> > > I heard there’s an update coming…never…
> > >
> > > 343 hasn’t been listening to any of their fans. If they are, they are doing an excellent job of keeping it secret and not showing it. I am very frustrated by them. They trash Halo, and don’t fix it. They get no more time to fix these issues, when it comes to competitive first person games, you have to be quick, otherwise people will just leave.
> > >
> > > Of course the fanboys will say “give it more time” or “you guys need to be more patient” but no, go back to CoD and quit trying to dumb down halo
> >
> > From 343i on this board
> > <mark>“This thread will be used to communicate issues we are currently investigating and provide troubleshooting tips. If you are experiencing issues, please reply with as many details as possible.</mark>
> >
> >
> > Cannot install Disc 2 content
> > If you’re experiencing issues installing Disk 2 content, choose “Spartan Ops” or “War Games” in the menu. You will see a message saying you need to install the content. Please choose the “Download from Xbox LIVE” option.
> >
> > If you have done a partial install with Disc 2 (aka your last install was either corrupt or interrupted), delete the old package before attempting the reinstall process. You can delete the old package by following the below steps:
> >
> > 1. Go to the Xbox Dashboard
> > 2. Go to the “Settings” tab
> > 3. Select “System”
> > 4. Select “Storage”
> > 5. Select “All Devices”
> > 6. Select “Games and Apps”
> > 7. Select “Halo 4” from the list of games
> > 8. Select “Spartan Ops Season 1.0”
> > 9. Select “Delete”
> > 10. Select “Yes” to confirm
> > 11. After it deletes that package, select “War Games” from the list
> > 12. Select “Delete”
> > 13. Select “Yes” to confirm
> >
> >
> > Xbox crashes when going to Halo Waypoint from Halo 4
> > Try deleting Halo Waypoint and reinstalling it.
> >
> >
> > DLC disappears after console reboot
> > <mark>UPDATE: We have identified the root cause of this issue and are currently working on a fix.</mark>
> > Check to see if you have downloaded the content properly.
> >
> > Have you switched Xboxes between redeeming the content?
> > Have you tried re-downloading the item from your account’s “Download History”?
> > From the Xbox Dashboard: Settings->Account->Download History
> >
> >
> > If you have the content properly downloaded, try restarting the game. This sometimes doesn’t work, and we are continuing to investigate this issue.
> >
> >
> > DLC unavailable for other profiles on the same console
> > <mark>UPDATE: We have identified the root cause of this issue and are currently working on a fix.</mark>
> > We are investigating this issue. Currently the LIVE account that redeemed the code gets access to the bonus content, as does any Guest or Temp accounts on that same Xbox.
> >
> >
> > Unable to load Campaign and/or matchmake
> > <mark>Both our internal team and the Xbox team are actively engaged and working on this. We’re making progress and are getting closer to identifying the root cause. We will provide an update when we have one.</mark>
> >
> > If you are unable to load a Campaign mission, returned to the title screen or crash in Matchmaking (immediately after the countdown or while the map is loading), or having trouble installing Disk 1 to your hard drive, please try the following: If you have a hard drive with enough free space, please attempt to install Disk 1 to your hard drive. If the install fails, please send us the following information, as it will help us identify the issue.
> >
> > Console ID (you can find your Xbox 360 Console ID using these instructions: Microsoft Connect is Retired - Collaborate | Microsoft Docs
> > Service Date (found on the back of the console).
> > Serial Number (found in the System Info screen or on the back of the console)
> > Product ID (found on the back of the console)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Spartan Ops Episode of Legend Weekly Challenge
> > UPDATE: This issue has been resolved.
> > Upon completion of the Episode of Legend Weekly Challenge, some players did not get a notification that they received 3,000 XP. However, if the challenge showed as completed on the Challenge page, the payout was issued. We are currently investigating why the notification did not appear in-game.
> >
> >
> > Latency/lag issues when matchmaking with non-regional players
> > <mark>UPDATE: This issue has been resolved.</mark>
> > We are aware and investigating this issue.
> >
> >
> > Completed Campaign but missing achievements
> > Upon completing Campaign, some players find they are missing certain achievements. If you pause, you must use the “Resume Campaign” button to resume. If you choose “Rally Point Bravo” or “Rally Point Charlie”, this issue arises. We are investigating but for now, replay the missions from beginning to end using only the “Save and Quit” and “Resume Campaign” options to unlock the relevant achievements.
> >
> >
> > Issues with in-game sounds and cutscenes
> > If you are experiencing issues with in-game sounds and/or cutscenes, please send us the following information, as it will assist us with our investigation.
> >
> > What kind of Xbox do you have?
> >
> > Launch – original body with no HDMI
> > Elite – original body with HDMI
> > Slim – New body
> >
> >
> > What is your audio source? Look at the back of your console to determine which cable you are using.
> >
> > HDMI
> > Analogue line out (component or AV cables)
> > Digital optical out
> >
> >
> > What is your monitoring setup? (What are you using to hear the sounds?)
> >
> > AV receiver
> > Audio output (7.1, 5.1 etc)
> > TV speakers
> > Headphones
> >
> >
> > Are you playing off disc or is the game installed?
> >
> >
> > Unable to use the “Search” feature for the Halo 4 File Share
> > File Search is not available at this time, and we’re currently investigating. In the interim, you can still create, tag, upload/download and provide/receive recommendations on user-generated content using the in-game “File Browser” feature found in “Settings & Files”. Use the “File Share Search” option for any of the file variants (screenshots, films, etc.) and search by gamertag to locate and view the contents of other users’ File Shares.”
> >
> >
> > Just saying, you may want to you know *do research before you slander them, on their own site.
> >
> > Do you want some ketchup and mustard with those words? it would make them taste better.
> >
> > Good Hunting Spartans,
> >
> > Rabid Kiwi
>
> I cannot thank you enough for that info. Maybe some people would think twice about attacking 343i.

That’s day one information that does not discuss any current issues. Copy and pasting it did not help in any way either

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> > Ya know, when, back in the old days of gaming, if a game wasn’t done it wasn’t -Yoinking!- released!
>
> Exactly. No one would ever release an incomplete book and then try to patch it up by releasing extra chapters on the internet, just as no one would ever release an incomplete movie and then ask you to watch the final scenes on YouTube. There is no excuse for releasing something that isn’t finished (with the possible exception of “Microsoft made us”, and even then additional material, such as Spartan Ops, should be cut in order to polish the major components of the game).

I couldn’t have said it better myself.