I get that I’m not going to win every match I play. I get that teams who coordinate and set up offensive and defensive schemes are going to out-play a team who charges wildly. I get that myself and my buddies are not the best Halo players in the world. Can we at least play people on our skill level?
WHAT THE HECK GUYS? We (well I think a pair of my friends did a double team last night after this that ended rather poorly as well) played 4 games last night and this was the worst, most one-sided of them all. At least in the other games we had a “shot” and were close. To start I’ve been told Abandon is one-sided towards Red team, I personally like the map Abandon a lot (I know I’m weird) so I was OK playing it regardless. But then we got matched up against people so far out of our skill level that the closest person was 29 to our 9.
Their team
29
42
33
37
32
Our team
8
9
8
3
Yes, not only were they way better than us (at the very least at CTF…probably at everything) but we didn’t have a 5th. Seriously; they got one and we didn’t. No one quit, though if they had decided to drag it out and farm us for kills mercilessly we would have. Thankfully they decided to end us quickly.
To me this was like playing against a team of Navy Seals or something. Is the Halo population so low that this is who we’re going to be matched up against? We can’t play 4v4 slayer anymore because one of my friends pulls in these Halo GODS every time…I’m the only one who really enjoys Big Team…and that falls as objective now half the time anyways cause Ragnarok CTF is “SO GREAT.” (sarcasm for the slow) Do we need to just find a different game to play? We have Halo night once a week…none of us live within 30 miles of each other anymore (40, 60, 1000 and occasionally a dude we know in Australia so 15000) so it’s really the only time we all “get together” anymore and we generally just spend it dying/losing. A lot.
Is there a different playlist? I’ve been begging for a social unranked slayer playlist for a long time…there’s really usually only 4-5 of us so it’s not really enough for us to make a custom game and we’d much rather be on the same team…trust me we’ve thought of this.
Makes me feel like the reason CSR isn’t shown in-game is because then we would be able to predict with 90% accuracy (10% inaccuracy due to JiP) which team will win before the match even starts.
It really sucks when I rank down when the other team is team-shooting me and my teammates can’t stay alive long enough to do the same, or I fail to rank up after performing well against players who are a lower rank than me.
Welcome to the joys of a low population. Once it can’t find a match in your skill range the search widens to get you into a game. I ended up on the other side of that in an IS game. The other team all had 3+ KDR’s and 50’s while my team and I had mid 30’s ranks with around 1-1.5 KDR’s. It wasn’t very enjoyable to say the least.
Unfortunately for most of us when teams like that lurk in playlist, they rarely have an equal match, which means someone is going to have to bite the bullet.
If a team like that had to wait for as “fair match” they would wait all night and that would not be fair.
> ]Welcome to the joys of a low population[/h]. Once it can’t find a match in your skill range the search widens to get you into a game. I ended up on the other side of that in an IS game. The other team all had 3+ KDR’s and 50’s while my team and I had mid 30’s ranks with around 1-1.5 KDR’s. It wasn’t very enjoyable to say the least.
Welcome to HALO 4’s CSR / True Skill Ranking system .
It’s a very broken system
And im sorry this is how it works
as im on the other end of ur problem see i never match anyone my skill and when i do they just back out in lobby and then i end up playing vs people way under my skill - and it’s no fun for anyone
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I personally don’t think there’s anything wrong with Halo’s Ranking system (although I don’t understand how people that have negative k/d’s can have a higher CSR than me, but I digress). There’s just not enough people playing the game for it to work properly. I used to run into this in Legendary Slayer all the time when there were only 200 people in the playlist. I’m approximately +4500 with a 1.33 k/d, not bad but definitely not good either, and I’d get matched up against people that were +80,000. But, I just looked at it as a chance to see how well I could do against top tier players and used it as a learning experience. I honestly think those whippings I got in Legendary made me a better player, but it was frustrating sometimes though.
I’m hoping -Yoink!- does like they did with Reach and just give the game away with new consoles this holiday season. Maybe we could get enough people to make the game enjoyable again.
And, btw FUNZBOB, just wanted to say I take back some of the stuff I said earlier about hating BTB. I spent all day yesterday playing it, and it was actually enjoyable to not have to play Skyline every other game like I have been in Infinity Slayer. I still dislike vehicles, but the larger maps do suit my DMR a lot more than the smaller Infinity maps. And, to my surprise, Complex is really fun with larger teams. I hated that map when it was in Infinity Slayer, now I vote for it almost every time it comes up.
When you have a population so low, there isn’t anyone else to match at your skill level so the system expands the search parameters to include people of higher rank and much lower rank.
The same is happening to me. I’m being teamed with players below my skill level, but playing against people well above all of us. It’s absolutely ridiculous and something needs to be done about it.
> The same is happening to me. I’m being teamed with players below my skill level, but playing against people well above all of us.
Honestly, this has been happening to me for a while now. If I wanted to, I could probably go through my Game History as far back as pre-Weapon Tuning and find blatantly imbalanced CSR matches.
Bring back social and ranked system from Halo 3. That way the casuals can be casual and the competitives can be competitive. Get rid of JiP as well, it’s limited and no one wants to join a game and lose.
This game is dying way too quickly because of all this BS.
> CSR is probably the worst ranking system known to gaming.
The principles and patterns CSR was built and functions upon are solid and not broken. What is happening is that enough Halo fans thought Halo 4 sucked so bad, they stopped playing it, and when that happened, your chances of finding a unique individual of YOUR skill level plummet…just like the population.
The low population is most likely causing the matches to be mixed with many CSR levels and then again its been a lag fest for me this evening and I honestly don’t mind playing higher ranked players but give me a connection that gives me a fighting chance at the very least.
Last match tonight and this is a great lag filled, CSR mixed match where half my team quits. Everyone on our team took a beating.
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Yeah CSR is a joke. Trueskill isn’t bad if the game had a population to support it. I remember playing you and other teams in Halo 3 when I searched with WJB and his friends since their trueskill brought in the teams however whenever I searched solo I rarely matched any teams.
> Bring back social and ranked system from Halo 3. That way the casuals can be casual and the competitives can be competitive. Get rid of JiP as well, it’s limited and no one wants to join a game and lose.
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> This game is dying way too quickly because of all this BS.