True, but we also got rec points that allowed players purchase bundles to where infinite doesn’t even have that option.
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And this apple analogy? You can really stretch things cant ya?
Bro… they’re charging $20 for blue… for one out of multiple cores… if anyone’s the king of stretching things that’d be 343 and microsoft.
(You could even argue they’re charging $120 for blue since the collectors edition comes with the ‘zeta sky’ version of blue which is just lightish blue AND depending on where you preordered from would affect which weapon you would get this color for rather than all weapons just sharing the color further chopping up the purchasable content)
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I’d say locking the Mk. V(B) core behind the battle pass at $10 thereby actually preventing you from using any Mk. V(B) armor you buy from the store (which are priced at $20) is pretty ridiculous.
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So, I’m honestly confused about how the system is predatory?
I wouldn’t call it predatory, but everything in bundles is a scumbag move. If all you want is the pink skin from the cat lover bundle, you don’t have the option to buy it individually. Therefor you’re stuck shelling out ten bucks for one cosmetic item that you can’t otherwise get.
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You like the game, your friend likes the game, the more you enjoy the more you want to buy that upcoming expansion pack/sequel/dlc.
This is basic marketing. You make a product that people enjoy, the more they’re willing to invest in that product. Nothing predatory about this.
This isn’t necessarily predatory, but it does play off of the FOMO mindset in the same way limited edition products do, or sales, or promotions do.
It’s not an unethical practice as it’s utilized in almost every facet in marketing and sales and has been for decades (Black Friday ring a bell?), but it’s one that can be consciously picked apart and seem like a cheap move due to frequency and perceived value.
FOMO can be overcome quite easily.
It’s two common marketing strategies that can function (or not function) independently or in conjunction with each other based on the customer it reaches. One based on consumer sentiment the other based on incentivizing consumer with the perception of limitations.
Surely you’ve purchased something that was because you enjoyed a similar or connected product? How about a product that was on sale, or a limited edition variant of that product? If those instances were ok, what makes these instances not ok?
Opportunistic would be a far better word choice.
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We should be able to buy items individually not forced to buy the whole bundle,
We got 10 of the 48 colors from Halo 5 and they are trying to sell us the others. That Iron man pack isn’t 11 items it’s 5 them selling you the same coating 3 times and saying it’s a different item simply because they lock them to specific cores is not great.
If you purchase a skin it should be universal to everything in game, I can see them Locking a coating to specific items if you grind to earn it.
But if you buy that pack you get a winter whitish blue for your sniper rifle and shotgun… Now they can re sell you the exact same color for your AR, BR, Pistol, and so on…
And they will fill it with other bundles which means they can sell you that same.skin just for the AR put it in a 20 bucks bundle with other stuff you may not want but forced to buy just because you want to have the skin for the AR… And if you want it for all your weapons. That’s going to be around 150 bucks after you buy each bundle they drip feed you that coating in.
The system is designed around making you buy things at a higher price even if you just want one thing out of the whole bundle.
I liked the shotgun pose, but I wasn’t going to drop 20 bucks for it. I don’t care for the coatings and don’t feel like being sold the same emblem 4 times.
Seriously the sword emblem is being counted as 3 or 4 items… Ots just one item but they locked it to individual things to make it look like more
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What, you don’t like buying the same jpeg four times?
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Lol right like the keep it clean is an AI color and the same Emblem 4 times lol.
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Nice ‘whataboutism’ 
Literally textbook, kind of impressive, really.
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Very opportunistic, they really think they can fool us by splitting an emblem into catigories like weapon emblem, armor emblem, and vehicle emblem / coating and sell it to us 3 or 4 different times and say oh your getting 11 items.
That 2000 credit bundle is only 5 items the three armor Coatings is just one single armor coating, the sniper and shotgun coating is only one and should be universal to every weapon, hell it should be universal to everything weapon armor, vehicles.
These are my biggest gripes with the damn store.
That Coatings, Emblems and Charms are locked to specific things and not universal.
And we can’t just buy Individual items from the store rather than being forced to buy bundles if we want to participate in the store.
Like I like the pose and maybe one coating, but I don’t want to waste 20 bucks on a coating that only goes on two weapons, and a pose.
If I could buy them individually and if that coating applied to all my stuff maybe I would see a value in it but right now it’s just a waste of money for cosmetics that you don’t even get a good ROE on.
How many of us really notice the cosmetics in game. The only time you really see then is in the Intro.
I get what you are saying. If you unlock an emblem it should be available for the nameplate, Armor and Weapon, not everything separated.
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There’s a really good thread (and I’m too lazy to look it up) that highlights what was promised by 343 and what was delivered. The OP did a very good good of collecting quotes and sourcing those quotes that when you read it, you really feel taken for a fool.
But anyway, as part of that thread, it’s highlighted by 343 that there will be mass customization available to the player on the scale of reaches unlockables and hardly mentioning if ever, a monetary format.
But here’s where it does get oppressive and kind of exploitive. There’s a precedent set on what customization means to halo fans. I.e. I can unlock diffrent armours, colours, etc and mix and match universally to a certain degree.
What 343 did was use that expectation of Uber customization too boost traffic of fans to the game who were expecting the traditional access to customization thereby increasing potential sales (not exploitive, but sleezy). But the oppressive and exploitive part which I’ve never seen before was how they locked pieces to one armour. Colours to one armour. Etc.
So if you want to enjoy making your own spartan, it’s expensive. But if you get tired of that look. Your only option is to go back to a base look or spend more money. There is little to no flexibility given to the player in the format, the only flexibility you get is what you pay for.
So going from having the freedom to relatively have your character look however you want, to being promised that same control and then having full control put behind a money wall, yeah pretty close to exploitive and oppressive.
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Yea that’s how they are exploiting people, essentially making you buy the same item multiple times, at a higher fixed priced. And essentially calling it more content.
May as well make us pay for campaign anew every week at that sense.
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I don’t know! By the end of Halo Infinite’s life I imagine the total cost of all premium battle passes totaling to around $60, while you’ll be able to pick up the campaign on sale for $5 by that time! It’s predatory for instant gratification addicts.
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Yea that’s what they are trying to get, the insta gratification types, to boost 4th quarter sales,
But the whole making you buy the same.item.3 or 4 times is so lame, lack of creativity really, I doubt it would hurt their sales of they made the cosmetics universal. I looked at the 2000 bundle and saw the same emblem 4 times. And saying one goes to the weapon one goes to armor isn’t giving us more items. Ots the same item. It really should be 4 different emblems that are universal to everything.
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I guess it doesn’t bug me, I’m just enjoying the multiplayer and only sense their cat ear cosmetic preying on me.
I haven’t really looked too much into all this because I don’t really care about customisation.
However - I’m in the game now looking at my screen - so basically if I buy the battle pass I can mod my V7 armour and get hold of the V5 armour…. For £7.19 which works out to £1.20 a month until the next battle pass.
Then in the store I can buy extra colours and skins for epic and Lengendary stuff…. (Although you can grab a legendary helmet in the battle pass too.
Why are people moaning…
I like how it gives you V5 and then you play loads of games gradually adding stuff to it. This week I get my armour add on, next week I get leg add ons.
I would say it’s similar to destiny doing raids and getting loot at the end, but at least in this I won’t end up with 4 helmets at the end of the month.
Also nobody is asking anybody to buy blue cause you can have blue for free in default V7 armour and default V5 armour.
Even if the season was 3 months it would still be only £2.40 a month. I couldn’t buy fish and chips for dinner with £2.40.
Surely you’ve got to be all moaning just because….
No wonder 343 is ignoring you all hahaha… funnny days.
I don’t know what to say other than read my posts in this thread lol
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I’ve read many posts in many threads - but the best decisions are made by looking at the source. Which I’m doing now. 343 never made contracts with any of you lot or any one for that matter. Don’t talk to me about promises or here says. Things sometimes happen that’s out your control and you always give the best you can.
In retrospect looking at the store it isn’t all that bad. You still get to change your colours and they give you a default armour. Plus I got that silly Samourai which Was free.
Personally I think they should have put the MK V Core on the free line. From a marketing and sales side, it’s easier to get people to invest in the store and pass if they didn’t feel they had to buy the pass just to get access to the MK V core, and the core’s options in the store.