How Halo 2 Can Help Halo 4

Yeah I realize this thread has probably been made many times already, but honestly there is a lot of things that can be taken from Halo 2 to really bring back/gain more players. First off, the separation of ranked/unranked playlists is what made H2 the best online shooter ive played. If you’re playing with someone online or at your house who may not be very good, you had the option to just jump in team training. But if you have a good team, play some team skirmish or slayer to get your rank up. Which brings me to yes, 1-50 ranks. Halo 2 had the best looking rank levels ive seen in a game, I remember when i first started I just had to get level 16 so i could have the two yellow things on top of the number. Its little things like that which made people play the game so much. Sure it encouraged a lot of cheaters, but there was also plenty of legit competitiveness within the game under every playlist. Sure, a 1-50 ranking system is coming, but for waypoint only? Is it that hard to put the number next to your name in-game?

And if you had a competitive group, you were able to make a clan and level it up in the clan playlists. This is one of the biggest things I feel Halo 4 needs at the moment. It encouraged teamwork more so than any other playlist in any of the Halo games and rewarded you for each win you made. I’m not really seeing where clans come into play in H4 besides just grouping up for the playlists available. There needs to be some sort of clan arena where your team can actually compete against others.

One of my biggest complaints though lies in BTB, where is objective 8v8? Weren’t lan parties with CTF and such what made halo so popular in the first place? Why completely disregard large scale CTF games when they’re one of the most intense gametypes on halo, especially with the large maps in H4? And don’t even get me started with the lack of Assault in this game (seriously where is it?).

Yeah I may be ranting, but I’ve just been a halo fan for 10 years now and really want Halo 4 to meet its potential. It’s not a bad game by any means, there’s just a lot missing that could really bring the player population back up.

What do you think is one thing you really want added to H4 to improve it?

how about 1 flag?

> how about 1 flag?

YESSSS!! I kinda forgot about that when writing about CTF, but 1flag is definitely one of the greatest times to be had in a halo game. Good call

Let’s have Halo 2 be properly finished before we start trying to use that game as improvement.

If 343 could fix Vehicle Combat (Buff Warthog, Buff Scorpion and make it a force to reckoned with, etc), that would help a lot

> Let’s have Halo 2 be properly finished before we start trying to use that game as improvement.

Not sure if you mean Halo 2 PC going offline or what. But there’s a reason its pretty much unanimously the best Halo multiplayer game so far, and some peoples favorite shooters of all time. It did so many things right that it definitely should be used as a reference for improving H4 and any future Halos.

> If 343 could fix Vehicle Combat (Buff Warthog, Buff Scorpion and make it a force to reckoned with, etc), that would help a lot

I agree, they seem to take way too much damage now compared to earlier games.

Another thing I forgot to mention is dual wielding, why did that have to go? There was nothing like blasting someone with an smg/magnum combo in Halo 2. Now H4 is 90% Dmr/BR which gets extremely boring after a while.

I would like to see assault and one bomb too.

> I would like to see assault and one bomb too.

I really hope to see it added at some point, it requires a lot of strategy and quick thinking which is what made it all the more rewarding to score/win. I can remember how intense 1 bomb on Zanzibar was because there were so many different ways to get into the base, you always had to be on your toes on defense. Assault on midship was also pretty crazy too

> > If 343 could fix Vehicle Combat (Buff Warthog, Buff Scorpion and make it a force to reckoned with, etc), that would help a lot
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> I agree, they seem to take way too much damage now compared to earlier games. Another thing I forgot to mention is dual wielding, why did that have to go? There was nothing like blasting someone with an smg/magnum combo in Halo 2. Now H4 is 90% Dmr/BR which gets extremely boring after a while.

Dual Wielding Boltshots. Nuff said

> > > If 343 could fix Vehicle Combat (Buff Warthog, Buff Scorpion and make it a force to reckoned with, etc), that would help a lot
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> > I agree, they seem to take way too much damage now compared to earlier games. Another thing I forgot to mention is dual wielding, why did that have to go? There was nothing like blasting someone with an smg/magnum combo in Halo 2. Now H4 is 90% Dmr/BR which gets extremely boring after a while.
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> Dual Wielding Boltshots. Nuff said

This could be one of the exceptions. Its kinda more of a two handed pistol anyway considering the amount of force it puts out. I’m more disappointed in the lack of small smgs/pistols in the game. They did a good job with adding a variety of AR type guns like the suppressor and storm rifle, but they also got rid of the plasma rifle and smg in the process. Why not add a smaller magnum that cant zoom in, along with a couple smgs? That alone would add tons of variety to the gameplay of H4 rather than pretty much all BR/DMR like i mentioned earlier.

Bring back juggernaut!

> Bring back juggernaut!

Yep, that too. It was about the only time to ever get a killamanjaro hahah. I just don’t understand the lack of any previous game types in Halo 4. No BTB besides slayer is a huge disappointment, and the lack of assault and juggernaut in custom games doesnt help any either.

We should totally make a hate website like Halo 2 as well!

Honestly just have Halo 2 Anniversary with updated graphics and NOTHING else. Dont put in the DMR, dont tweak the gameplay. I dont trust 343 and their “improvements”

> Honestly just have Halo 2 Anniversary with updated graphics and NOTHING else. Dont put in the DMR, dont tweak the gameplay. I dont trust 343 and their “improvements”

As much as I want this to happen, I can’t see it. I have a feeling its going to connect to Halo 4 somehow because its pretty clear most people like H2’s multiplayer the best out of all of them. I completely agree though but playing the H2 we know with updated graphics seems kinda too good to be true.

343 doesnt want bad kids to feel bad/ made fun of because they cant get past level 20

they seem to think nothing but children play their 17+ Mature rated game…

> 343 doesnt want bad kids to feel bad/ made fun of because they cant get past level 20
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> they seem to think nothing but children play their 17+ Mature rated game…

Thats what I loved about Halo 2, it was actually a challenge to get to a high rank. Plus there were 5-10 playlists to choose from along with the unranked playlists.