How few people play this game? Bronze and Diamond, all in the same lobby

Go to halo tracker and type your GT. Go to ranked, matches. On the right side above the report it will say cobra/eagle win% chance (number) the matches don’t refresh immediately, but it should be there eventually.

ah, interesting. that stonghold match i just described, they had a 63 percent win chance. i felt like i coulld win at first but then the other team figured out we were basicallyy a man down because the silver on my team did nothing and has a overalll 0.5 kd from every match. that silver was definitely in the wrong match. thanks 343

What rank are you right now?

i am plat 6 kinda losing the will to live playing these matches

Wow. Weird how a silver was on your team man. You’re playing alone? Did you not lose that much for that loss? Or did you feel like you lost more than you should have?I never play alone anymore. It’s always a bad experience for me. I learned my lesson from halo 5. I need at least 1 person with me to keep my sanity.

im playing a bit late at night in the uk. ranking down slowly but surely. i didnt really pay attention how much rank down in that match. when i know the match is impossible to win i kinda play a bit worse. i should remember that individual performance can keep the rank steady. But that allso brings up another issue. How many people are not trying their best becasue their matches are so unbalanced which then further messes up true mmr

Theres different factors for matches like that to occur, but I’d expect it more in a game with a low population and not something new that I’d think isn’t struggling in terms of population. I’m from the US…idk how big a difference it is in terms of players available in your area. Thats usually a big factor. Sometimes lopsided matches are intended to happen instead of having a longer search time. I asked in the previous halo for an opt in notification to say
“Match maker is having trouble finding a match with desired search preferences. Would you like to continue the search? Or loosen preferences?”

But they said no. They allow the matches to take place to keep the players playing for the sake of playing. In 5 we had 3 search preferences.

Focused
Balanced
Expanded

Which equated to

fair match of fairly equal skilled players with good connection

Balanced match with OK connection

Fastest match made possible with whatever connection available.

343 seem to be afraid of people waiting 1 minute. they should worry more about people having good experiances in game. they should also realise, people dont mind waiting a few miinutes to jump into their next game. 2 minutes is like a sweet spot for me for inbetween matches so i think they should design there matching around 2 minutess of searching, 1 minute at the very least.

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Actually… as an aside… you do get an ‘average’ MMR.

TrueSkill assumes your skill level is a normal curve - and your MMR is the average value of that curve.

When you start out, or re-qualifying, the curve is wide (higher standard deviation). Your ‘MMR’ is the mid-point of the curve… but the system expects your skill level to be anywhere on that curve. Hence the volatility of your opponents / rank at this time.

With more and more games the curve narrows and the system is more confident that the ‘average’ of the curve is actually your MMR.

And TrueSkill2 was pretty much just W/L. There was a weighting for kills per minute… but I don’t think it was ever made clear how much. Hopefully they will publish some more info on the new system soon.

Bro I am stuck at Diamond 4/5 and getting Onyx and Gold players in my team in the same game lmao it is so infuriating, can I just get Diamond 3/4/5/6 in my lobby please?

I think that the Onyx and Gold players are playing together so they put a Diamond and a Plat in there to try balance the things out, so this is the main problem, to let people play rank together no matter their rank, this shouldn’t be allowed, Onyx plays should only be allowed to team up with Diamond players, etc, etc

The rank system needs a massive overhaul, that’s really what needs to be said

This is the first ranked play game that I’ve seen without an MMR limiter. Most games require you be within 500, 1000, etc MMR to group in ranked. That is the problem. I am Plat 6/Diamond 1 depending on the day and was grouped with a 2 squad of Bronze 6 and Diamond 4/5 (cant remember which). The bronze was a legit bronze that went 1 and 16 causing our loss 48-50 against an all Plat team.

Setting an MMR limiter fixes this problem and takes almost no coding effort to complete.

I think this literally comes down to being unlucky, if you think about it. Go in the position of the onyx and unranked duo, if it’s brand new the game considers that the lowest rank so it’s almost like top rank and bottom rank against two low to medium gold players makes a little sense although if the onyx player is very good it’s gonna be very difficult for you to win. Alternative is that the unranked account has done like 2 or 3 placement matches, had to play against diamond and potientaly onyx players and the onyx player did ok but the unranked player got absolutely destroyed, meaning the the matchmaking will try pulling them into some lower lobbies and see how the unranked player plays in them games. The placement matches are strange, you’ll notice if you a medium player like plat 6/diamond1 but haven’t placed, or played yet but that’s where you skill level is around, then you first 2 or 3 matches will be a breeze, you’ll stomp most of the lobby unless your
Playing with some ranked friends and then it’ll consider the fact your brand new and the team mate is whatever rank they are. Anyway after stomping your first 3 games matchmaking will realise your a lot better than a beginner, and through you in say medium to high diamond game, and see how you fair, if you say get 7 kills go negative and lose the game they may give you similar skill again to see if it’s just a bad game , you play more or less similar again which means matchmaking recognises that may be abit above your skill level so then it drops you around your skill level but not lower to like gold players again. Lol I’m f* up why I write this but long story short the unranked players get out all over depending on they’re team and or how they play in early games, halo pro formal, played in open ranked, so teams of 4 and he is onyx 2000, and he stomped
The opposition checked the rank and they were onyx 1500 onyx 1600 unranked and gold. It’s somewhat unfair but at the same time buddies of different skill still wanna play ranked together. It’s still a betterish system than h2 or h3 because if you play with a highest skill 50 and your a highest skill 5 you go up like 7 ranks for every win, which caused people to boost accounts and sell them, this ranking means if you wanna play with buddies it won’t benefit you playing with your mates that are way better as it goes off individual skill

It definitely needs fixing, and it really could easily be improved, I think open queue, duo queue and solo queue, solo queue would mean literally everyone will be the same rank, no one bringing friends that are higher rank than them or lower. And on top of that potentially at least recognise that people are queuing with friends making games unbalanced, and make a open queue that you can go in with parties with four but it’s much more serious as you can only queue with friends that are same rank say all diamond together, all plats together, etc, they need to update playlist anyways, I’d like to see more ranked playlists like H5, doubles, FFA, slayer, I just want more playlists with BR starts