If anyone out there gives a damn about Elites too, I’d like to hear your opinions on how elite users will affected by the new changes. Will there be effects on the Invasion playlist? How will it affect the characteristics of the Elites, who already have “higher” stats than the Spartans?
From what I’ve noticed, the Magnum is a 4sk, due to shield bleed, while DMR remained a 5sk, and NR a 6-7sk. Orginaly elites take one more than spartans due to stronger shields, but this is were I want to investigate. If Magnum is 4sk on Spartans, would it mean that it would be a 5sk for elites? Post!
Additionally, will they remain on Invasion, Action Sack, and the “invisible choice” in BTB and TS?
I hope, that as an Elite user, we could get more rights to use them more freely in MM. I’d love it for Objective with covey weapons and elites.
Go to the Game Marketplace > Titles A-Z > Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
Check out the last like… 5-6 images in the “Gallery” Preview. You can clearly see RvB Elites v Spartans.
I HONESTLY THINK that 343 wants to make Reach MP more like Halo 3, where the Spartan and Elites had the same hitboxes, jump height, speed, etc.
In Reach Elites can not only jump higher then a Spartan, but can move faster as well. Again, I HOPE 343 is thinking of a way to just balance the 2 out, and you could just choose Elite or Spartan.
> All go do yourself a favor… right now…
>
> Go to the Game Marketplace > Titles A-Z > Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
>
> Check out the last like… 5-6 images in the “Gallery” Preview. You can clearly see RvB Elites v Spartans.
>
> I HONESTLY THINK that 343 wants to make Reach MP more like Halo 3, where the Spartan and Elites had the same hitboxes, jump height, speed, etc.
>
> In Reach Elites can not only jump higher then a Spartan, but can move faster as well. Again, I HOPE 343 is thinking of a way to just balance the 2 out, and you could just choose Elite or Spartan.
i saw them but it could be custom match, testing out the map before release
It would be nice if they just put Elite Slayer in it’s own playlist - it plays very differently than regular Team Slayer. That would open up the possibilities for more Elite-specific gametypes like Elite SWAT and Dino-Blasters. It’s a shame they don’t do much nifty stuff, or we might even get lucky and have some gametypes with alternate species like Kig-yar. Skirmisher Slayer would be insane. Grunt Slayer would be hilarious, albeit a little slow. I’m crossing my fingers that Halo 4 has playable skirmishers - that would be so sweet…
> All go do yourself a favor… right now…
>
> Go to the Game Marketplace > Titles A-Z > Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
>
> Check out the last like… 5-6 images in the “Gallery” Preview. You can clearly see RvB Elites v Spartans.
>
> I HONESTLY THINK that 343 wants to make Reach MP more like Halo 3, where the Spartan and Elites had the same hitboxes, jump height, speed, etc.
>
> In Reach Elites can not only jump higher then a Spartan, but can move faster as well. Again, I HOPE 343 is thinking of a way to just balance the 2 out, and you could just choose Elite or Spartan.
Although it sounds like a nice ideal, I think Bungie set elites different from spartans due to campaing, while in the process creating a different character; Elites have less delay in shield recovery but solwer recovery rate. Their health, well, self rengenerating. Their shields take one more “DMR” round in damage compared to the spartans…blah blah blah, i hope most of you know the rest. I dont know if you can play as an Elite in customs with the new settings, so if anyone knows, reply please!
But anyhow, I really like Elites how they are, not “huchback dinosaurs” like H3. The problem i see of intergrating Elites is that people would whine about them having the “strenght” advantage. They can b**ch all they want, the new size of elites places all their buffs in equal footing, with slight strength. On the other side, the covey sided people would be pleased.
I think this a whole community matterm, not just a fraction, but there are too many biggots that dislike elite users 'cuz “they think they can anything with their spartan”…lol I still like the Idea of Objective with elites, What about you guys?
> > All go do yourself a favor… right now…
> >
> > Go to the Game Marketplace > Titles A-Z > Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
> >
> > Check out the last like… 5-6 images in the “Gallery” Preview. You can clearly see RvB Elites v Spartans.
> >
> > I HONESTLY THINK that 343 wants to make Reach MP more like Halo 3, where the Spartan and Elites had the same hitboxes, jump height, speed, etc.
> >
> > In Reach Elites can not only jump higher then a Spartan, but can move faster as well. Again, I HOPE 343 is thinking of a way to just balance the 2 out, and you could just choose Elite or Spartan.
>
> Although it sounds like a nice ideal, I think Bungie set elites different from spartans due to campaing, while in the process creating a different character; Elites have less delay in shield recovery but solwer recovery rate. Their health, well, self rengenerating. Their shields take one more “DMR” round in damage compared to the spartans…blah blah blah, i hope most of you know the rest. I dont know if you can play as an Elite in customs with the new settings, so if anyone knows, reply please!
> But anyhow, I really like Elites how they are, not “huchback dinosaurs” like H3. The problem i see of intergrating Elites is that people would whine about them having the “strenght” advantage. They can b**ch all they want, the new size of elites places all their buffs in equal footing, with slight strength. On the other side, the covey sided people would be pleased.
> I think this a whole community matterm, not just a fraction, but there are too many biggots that dislike elite users 'cuz “they think they can anything with their spartan”…lol I still like the Idea of Objective with elites, What about you guys?
I would love to see an Elite-only playlist, as well as a Spartan vs Elites one, too.
> All go do yourself a favor… right now…
>
> Go to the Game Marketplace > Titles A-Z > Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
>
> Check out the last like… 5-6 images in the “Gallery” Preview. You can clearly see RvB Elites v Spartans.
>
> I HONESTLY THINK that 343 wants to make Reach MP more like Halo 3, where the Spartan and Elites had the same hitboxes, jump height, speed, etc.
>
> In Reach Elites can not only jump higher then a Spartan, but can move faster as well. Again, I HOPE 343 is thinking of a way to just balance the 2 out, and you could just choose Elite or Spartan.
> > All go do yourself a favor… right now…
> >
> > Go to the Game Marketplace > Titles A-Z > Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
> >
> > Check out the last like… 5-6 images in the “Gallery” Preview. You can clearly see RvB Elites v Spartans.
> >
> > I HONESTLY THINK that 343 wants to make Reach MP more like Halo 3, where the Spartan and Elites had the same hitboxes, jump height, speed, etc.
> >
> > In Reach Elites can not only jump higher then a Spartan, but can move faster as well. Again, I HOPE 343 is thinking of a way to just balance the 2 out, and you could just choose Elite or Spartan.
>
> Although it sounds like a nice ideal, I think Bungie set elites different from spartans due to campaing, while in the process creating a different character; Elites have less delay in shield recovery but solwer recovery rate. Their health, well, self rengenerating. Their shields take one more “DMR” round in damage compared to the spartans…blah blah blah, i hope most of you know the rest. I dont know if you can play as an Elite in customs with the new settings, so if anyone knows, reply please!
> But anyhow, I really like Elites how they are, not “huchback dinosaurs” like H3. The problem i see of intergrating Elites is that people would whine about them having the “strenght” advantage. They can b**ch all they want, the new size of elites places all their buffs in equal footing, with slight strength. On the other side, the covey sided people would be pleased.
> I think this a whole community matterm, not just a fraction, but there are too many biggots that dislike elite users 'cuz “they think they can anything with their spartan”…lol I still like the Idea of Objective with elites, What about you guys?
This would be resolved by scaling. Any Elite player will agree that we don’t CARE if they are smaller in MP than they are Canonically. We would rather them be scaled to the same size AND shape of a Spartan (As they are now they are the same shape, so just shrinking them would do it). We don’t LIKE having them bent and molded to a different shape, it’s better to just shrink them, and stand them straight.
> All go do yourself a favor… right now…
>
> Go to the Game Marketplace > Titles A-Z > Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
>
> Check out the last like… 5-6 images in the “Gallery” Preview. You can clearly see RvB Elites v Spartans.
>
> I HONESTLY THINK that 343 wants to make Reach MP more like Halo 3, where the Spartan and Elites had the same hitboxes, jump height, speed, etc.
>
> In Reach Elites can not only jump higher then a Spartan, but can move faster as well. Again, I HOPE 343 is thinking of a way to just balance the 2 out, and you could just choose Elite or Spartan.
Thats because they’re in customs and they most likely allowed elites when they played. They showed elite vs. spartan combat in the defiant map pac pics too.
> This would be resolved by scaling. Any Elite player will agree that we don’t CARE if they are smaller in MP than they are Canonically. We would rather them be scaled to the same size AND shape of a Spartan (As they are now they are the same shape, so just shrinking them would do it). We don’t LIKE having them bent and molded to a different shape, it’s better to just shrink them, and stand them straight.
Good call bro, but Im sure that if this is done though, then, they would also need to be debufed. Seeing as they will be smaller, their extra shield bit, speed and shield delay would have to match the spartans. I, personally like them for how they are in Reach, but yes, I have to agree, maybe the community would prefer it. Then again, some people are picky about it. I gotta say though, the Elites current situation reminds me of how they were in Halo 2, bigger targets and different hitboxes, yada yada yada. This is whey i think Bungie added the buffs, to compensate. Any thoughts, dudes?
Considering all Elite gametypes will probably use 85% bloom…be prepared to see an onslaught of pink explosions from the bloomless, automatic, needle rifle. On 85% bloom, you can hold down the trigger and not see the shots deviate from the center once, while the Spartans will have to struggle with the DMR and Pistol’s bloom.
That’s the biggest problem I see, with a few potential remedies:
-Simply alter the NR’s bloom so that it still spreads.
-Replace the NR with the DMR in all appearances and loadouts (which would kinda ruin some aspects of Invasion)
-Leave it the way it is and watch Invasion go down the drain