I haven’t found anything like a troop transport that has the ability to enter slipspace and bring heavy vehicles.
I noticed Naval ships like frigates, cruisers, and carriers all have its own contingent of marines(something not likely in modern day navy). Does any of those ships can support large troop deployment to the battalion or division size units or is the role of troop transport been given to modified ship like the SoF which is cheaper to operate than specifically designed warships?
Dedicated classes of ship like the Phenoix and Orion class of assault ship/ assault carrier are the main fleet transports. Also many of these class of ships carry the raw materials and machinery to build replacement vehicles once they have the schematics, that is how the SoF can have post war vehicles.
That aside there is a version of the Paris class heavy frigate which has had its MAC and most weapons and sensors, spare point defense removed, which serves as rapid, heavy transport. There would also be other larger ship classes and civilian freighters pressed into service. This is one of the places Halo Warfleet fell flat by not giving in-depth analysis.
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> Dedicated classes of ship like the Phenoix and Orion class of assault ship/ assault carrier are the main fleet transports. Also many of these class if ships carry the raw materials and machinery to build replacement vehicles once they have the schematics, that is how the SoF can have post war vehicles.
> That aside there is a version of the Paris class heavy frigate which has had its MAC and most weapons and sensors, spare point defense which serves as rapid transport. There would also be other larger ship classes and civilian freighters pressed into service. This is one of the places Halo Warfleet fell flat by not giving in-depth analysis.
Yeah, I saw that too. But it’s hard to believe the UNSC is willing to use carriers to transport expeditionary ground units instead of a specific ship.
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> > Dedicated classes of ship like the Phenoix and Orion class of assault ship/ assault carrier are the main fleet transports. Also many of these class if ships carry the raw materials and machinery to build replacement vehicles once they have the schematics, that is how the SoF can have post war vehicles.
> > That aside there is a version of the Paris class heavy frigate which has had its MAC and most weapons and sensors, spare point defense which serves as rapid transport. There would also be other larger ship classes and civilian freighters pressed into service. This is one of the places Halo Warfleet fell flat by not giving in-depth analysis.
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> Yeah, I saw that too. But it’s hard to believe the UNSC is willing to use carriers to transport expeditionary ground units instead of a specific ship.
The UNSC did at the start of the war, however as it became clear the Covenant destroyed the worlds they found, left nothing alive and striked almost at will, most troops were carried in the battlegroups they were part of or were moved to which ever planet was deemed vital to the war effort and left there to face the inevitable attack.
The Epoch-Class Heavy Carrier is one such UNSC warship that the UNSC uses for transporting Troops, Marines, ect.
The Epoch can carry up to 800 Marines, and up to 3 dropships (and 2 fighters) in 12 hangars. so that’s 36 Pelicans, and could transport up to 720 Marines in one run assuming they are kitted out with the 20 capacity over the standard 10. that’s ignoring Orbital support, air support, armored vehicle support, and ODSTs and whatever the hell the UNSC Army does to get its troops around to maintain the area, and other UNSC Aerospace vehicles and support like the refit Phoenix Class, and other vessels.
Infantry, marines, ect should be supported by Archer Strikes, Bident Missiles, and Hypersonic MAC Strikes and Artillery, which would help the ground battle severely and lessen the amount of Infantry Engagements and causalities. and that’s just assuming there is one Epoch class in a Leviathan sized battlegroup.
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> The Epoch-Class Heavy Carrier is one such UNSC warship that the UNSC uses for transporting Troops, Marines, ect.
>
> The Epoch can carry up to 800 Marines, and up to 3 dropships (and 2 fighters) in 12 hangars. so that’s 36 Pelicans, and could transport up to 720 Marines in one run assuming they are kitted out with the 20 capacity over the standard 10. that’s ignoring Orbital support, air support, armored vehicle support, and ODSTs and whatever the hell the UNSC Army does to get its troops around to maintain the area, and other UNSC Aerospace vehicles and support like the refit Phoenix Class, and other vessels.
>
> Infantry, marines, ect should be supported by Archer Strikes, Bident Missiles, and Hypersonic MAC Strikes and Artillery, which would help the ground battle severely and lessen the amount of Infantry Engagements and causalities. and that’s just assuming there is one Epoch class in a Leviathan sized battlegroup.
I mean, 800 marines are just a battalion-size unit. I don’t think that’s nearly enough for any sensible ground campaign. Plus, it’s a heavy carrier, I don’t think the UNSC has much of any left or have the resources to produce similar size warships after the war.
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> > The Epoch-Class Heavy Carrier is one such UNSC warship that the UNSC uses for transporting Troops, Marines, ect.
> >
> > The Epoch can carry up to 800 Marines, and up to 3 dropships (and 2 fighters) in 12 hangars. so that’s 36 Pelicans, and could transport up to 720 Marines in one run assuming they are kitted out with the 20 capacity over the standard 10. that’s ignoring Orbital support, air support, armored vehicle support, and ODSTs and whatever the hell the UNSC Army does to get its troops around to maintain the area, and other UNSC Aerospace vehicles and support like the refit Phoenix Class, and other vessels.
> >
> > Infantry, marines, ect should be supported by Archer Strikes, Bident Missiles, and Hypersonic MAC Strikes and Artillery, which would help the ground battle severely and lessen the amount of Infantry Engagements and causalities. and that’s just assuming there is one Epoch class in a Leviathan sized battlegroup.
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> I mean, 800 marines are just a battalion-size unit. I don’t think that’s nearly enough for any sensible ground campaign. Plus, it’s a heavy carrier, I don’t think the UNSC has much of any left or have the resources to produce similar size warships after the war.
Oh the UNSC most certainly has the Industry to build plenty of ships since there are hundreds of Stridents and Anlace class Frigates being built on just Mars and Tribute.
so at least 200 to 300 frigates being built by two worlds. There is also the UNSC Eternity, a second Infinity Class Supercarrier in the works. plus the numerous Autumn-Class Heavy Cruisers. which are more advanced than the ship that spawned the entire class; The Pillar of Autumn, and are heavier than the Pillar too by about 1.1 Million Metric Tons (Pillar of Autumn is 9 Million Metric Tons), which coincidentally is the same mass of a Strident Class Frigate. (The 1.1 not 9)
Stridents are 575 Meter Long, 1.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
Autumn-Classes are 1,425 Meter long, 10.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
and Epochs are 2,563 Meter long, 35 Million Metric Ton Warships.
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> > > The Epoch-Class Heavy Carrier is one such UNSC warship that the UNSC uses for transporting Troops, Marines, ect.
> > >
> > > The Epoch can carry up to 800 Marines, and up to 3 dropships (and 2 fighters) in 12 hangars. so that’s 36 Pelicans, and could transport up to 720 Marines in one run assuming they are kitted out with the 20 capacity over the standard 10. that’s ignoring Orbital support, air support, armored vehicle support, and ODSTs and whatever the hell the UNSC Army does to get its troops around to maintain the area, and other UNSC Aerospace vehicles and support like the refit Phoenix Class, and other vessels.
> > >
> > > Infantry, marines, ect should be supported by Archer Strikes, Bident Missiles, and Hypersonic MAC Strikes and Artillery, which would help the ground battle severely and lessen the amount of Infantry Engagements and causalities. and that’s just assuming there is one Epoch class in a Leviathan sized battlegroup.
> >
> > I mean, 800 marines are just a battalion-size unit. I don’t think that’s nearly enough for any sensible ground campaign. Plus, it’s a heavy carrier, I don’t think the UNSC has much of any left or have the resources to produce similar size warships after the war.
>
> Oh the UNSC most certainly has the Industry to build plenty of ships since there are hundreds of Stridents and Anlace class Frigates being built on just Mars and Tribute.
> so at least 200 to 300 frigates being built by two worlds. There is also the UNSC Eternity, a second Infinity Class Supercarrier in the works. plus the numerous Autumn-Class Heavy Cruisers. which are more advanced than the ship that spawned the entire class; The Pillar of Autumn, and are heavier than the Pillar too by about 1.1 Million Metric Tons (Pillar of Autumn is 9 Million Metric Tons), which coincidentally is the same mass of a Strident Class Frigate. (The 1.1 not 9)
>
> Stridents are 575 Meter Long, 1.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> Autumn-Classes are 1,425 Meter long, 10.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> and Epochs are 2,563 Meter long, 35 Million Metric Ton Warships.
I know, I just think it would be very inefficient to use warships for such purpose.
It’s like the Air Force uses double-seat fighters to transport troops. Yeah, they could do it. But why not just get an aircraft designed to transport troops or materials around?
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> > > > The Epoch-Class Heavy Carrier is one such UNSC warship that the UNSC uses for transporting Troops, Marines, ect.
> > > >
> > > > The Epoch can carry up to 800 Marines, and up to 3 dropships (and 2 fighters) in 12 hangars. so that’s 36 Pelicans, and could transport up to 720 Marines in one run assuming they are kitted out with the 20 capacity over the standard 10. that’s ignoring Orbital support, air support, armored vehicle support, and ODSTs and whatever the hell the UNSC Army does to get its troops around to maintain the area, and other UNSC Aerospace vehicles and support like the refit Phoenix Class, and other vessels.
> > > >
> > > > Infantry, marines, ect should be supported by Archer Strikes, Bident Missiles, and Hypersonic MAC Strikes and Artillery, which would help the ground battle severely and lessen the amount of Infantry Engagements and causalities. and that’s just assuming there is one Epoch class in a Leviathan sized battlegroup.
> > >
> > > I mean, 800 marines are just a battalion-size unit. I don’t think that’s nearly enough for any sensible ground campaign. Plus, it’s a heavy carrier, I don’t think the UNSC has much of any left or have the resources to produce similar size warships after the war.
> >
> > Oh the UNSC most certainly has the Industry to build plenty of ships since there are hundreds of Stridents and Anlace class Frigates being built on just Mars and Tribute.
> > so at least 200 to 300 frigates being built by two worlds. There is also the UNSC Eternity, a second Infinity Class Supercarrier in the works. plus the numerous Autumn-Class Heavy Cruisers. which are more advanced than the ship that spawned the entire class; The Pillar of Autumn, and are heavier than the Pillar too by about 1.1 Million Metric Tons (Pillar of Autumn is 9 Million Metric Tons), which coincidentally is the same mass of a Strident Class Frigate. (The 1.1 not 9)
> >
> > Stridents are 575 Meter Long, 1.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> > Autumn-Classes are 1,425 Meter long, 10.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> > and Epochs are 2,563 Meter long, 35 Million Metric Ton Warships.
>
> I know, I just think it would be very inefficient to use warships for such purpose.
> It’s like the Air Force uses double-seat fighters to transport troops. Yeah, they could do it. But why not just get an aircraft designed to transport troops or materials around?
Are you saying a fleet of pelicans basically or a warship designed to hold troops?, the carrier is kind of the point of that and there are plenty of carrier classes out there, that seems like a bad idea, if referring to a fleet of pelicans, they’d be without support from a carrier, and loose the lostigical edge a carrier or supercarrier gives and the need for only a single slipspace drive mounted on the carrier if your going for FTL Pelicans/Condors, most small scale aerospace vehicles aside from the condor can’t mount a slipspace drive, and slipspace drives are expensive, better off on larger warships. you also need bunks, a messhall, cryostorage, medical facilities, bathroom and gym to keep these guys at tip top shape. and we know some warships do in fact have these facilities, like the UNSC Carrier Atlas’ gym that Chief beat up some ODSTs in. all you need is a couple carriers and a supercarrier and the appropriate detail of frigates and cruisers to defend them if you’re going for grand invasion of a planet. most UNSC ships like the Halberd-Class Destroyer are modular so it’s safe to assume that other vessels like carriers, can be kitted out in heavier troop transports. it’s honestly cost-effective to use a carrier when taking the slipspace drive into account.
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> > > > > The Epoch-Class Heavy Carrier is one such UNSC warship that the UNSC uses for transporting Troops, Marines, ect.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Epoch can carry up to 800 Marines, and up to 3 dropships (and 2 fighters) in 12 hangars. so that’s 36 Pelicans, and could transport up to 720 Marines in one run assuming they are kitted out with the 20 capacity over the standard 10. that’s ignoring Orbital support, air support, armored vehicle support, and ODSTs and whatever the hell the UNSC Army does to get its troops around to maintain the area, and other UNSC Aerospace vehicles and support like the refit Phoenix Class, and other vessels.
> > > > >
> > > > > Infantry, marines, ect should be supported by Archer Strikes, Bident Missiles, and Hypersonic MAC Strikes and Artillery, which would help the ground battle severely and lessen the amount of Infantry Engagements and causalities. and that’s just assuming there is one Epoch class in a Leviathan sized battlegroup.
> > > >
> > > > I mean, 800 marines are just a battalion-size unit. I don’t think that’s nearly enough for any sensible ground campaign. Plus, it’s a heavy carrier, I don’t think the UNSC has much of any left or have the resources to produce similar size warships after the war.
> > >
> > > Oh the UNSC most certainly has the Industry to build plenty of ships since there are hundreds of Stridents and Anlace class Frigates being built on just Mars and Tribute.
> > > so at least 200 to 300 frigates being built by two worlds. There is also the UNSC Eternity, a second Infinity Class Supercarrier in the works. plus the numerous Autumn-Class Heavy Cruisers. which are more advanced than the ship that spawned the entire class; The Pillar of Autumn, and are heavier than the Pillar too by about 1.1 Million Metric Tons (Pillar of Autumn is 9 Million Metric Tons), which coincidentally is the same mass of a Strident Class Frigate. (The 1.1 not 9)
> > >
> > > Stridents are 575 Meter Long, 1.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> > > Autumn-Classes are 1,425 Meter long, 10.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> > > and Epochs are 2,563 Meter long, 35 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> >
> > I know, I just think it would be very inefficient to use warships for such purpose.
> > It’s like the Air Force uses double-seat fighters to transport troops. Yeah, they could do it. But why not just get an aircraft designed to transport troops or materials around?
>
> Are you saying a fleet of pelicans basically or a warship designed to hold troops?, the carrier is kind of the point of that and there are plenty of carrier classes out there, that seems like a bad idea, if referring to a fleet of pelicans, they’d be without support from a carrier, and loose the lostigical edge a carrier or supercarrier gives and the need for only a single slipspace drive mounted on the carrier if your going for FTL Pelicans/Condors, most small scale aerospace vehicles aside from the condor can’t mount a slipspace drive, and slipspace drives are expensive, better off on larger warships. you also need bunks, a messhall, cryostorage, medical facilities, bathroom and gym to keep these guys at tip top shape. and we know some warships do in fact have these facilities, like the UNSC Carrier Atlas’ gym that Chief beat up some ODSTs in. all you need is a couple carriers and a supercarrier and the appropriate detail of frigates and cruisers to defend them if you’re going for grand invasion of a planet. most UNSC ships like the Halberd-Class Destroyer are modular so it’s safe to assume that other vessels like carriers, can be kitted out in heavier troop transports. it’s honestly cost-effective to use a carrier when taking the slipspace drive into account.
Not like a fleet of Slipspace-able pelicans or that kind of space/aircraft.
I’m thinking something(at the bare minimum) like modern LHD/LHA or LPDs. Which, although not as a sole troop transport, have a role in transporting and supporting troops. Which unlike UNSC carriers, which supplies more aircraft than conventional Marine Expeditionary Forces. (FYI Pillar of Autumn carried 800 marines and an additional 400 ODST, I know’s it’s modified, but just throwing it out there)
I mean Halbred destroyers are modular, but would an Arleigh Burke, even with its Mark 45, CIWS/Sea Sparrow, and VLS removed be suitable to carry a company of marines?
I only made the metaphor of Air Force because warships like Frigates, Destroyers, Cruisers, and Carriers are designed for engagement.
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> > > > > > The Epoch-Class Heavy Carrier is one such UNSC warship that the UNSC uses for transporting Troops, Marines, ect.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Epoch can carry up to 800 Marines, and up to 3 dropships (and 2 fighters) in 12 hangars. so that’s 36 Pelicans, and could transport up to 720 Marines in one run assuming they are kitted out with the 20 capacity over the standard 10. that’s ignoring Orbital support, air support, armored vehicle support, and ODSTs and whatever the hell the UNSC Army does to get its troops around to maintain the area, and other UNSC Aerospace vehicles and support like the refit Phoenix Class, and other vessels.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Infantry, marines, ect should be supported by Archer Strikes, Bident Missiles, and Hypersonic MAC Strikes and Artillery, which would help the ground battle severely and lessen the amount of Infantry Engagements and causalities. and that’s just assuming there is one Epoch class in a Leviathan sized battlegroup.
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean, 800 marines are just a battalion-size unit. I don’t think that’s nearly enough for any sensible ground campaign. Plus, it’s a heavy carrier, I don’t think the UNSC has much of any left or have the resources to produce similar size warships after the war.
> > > >
> > > > Oh the UNSC most certainly has the Industry to build plenty of ships since there are hundreds of Stridents and Anlace class Frigates being built on just Mars and Tribute.
> > > > so at least 200 to 300 frigates being built by two worlds. There is also the UNSC Eternity, a second Infinity Class Supercarrier in the works. plus the numerous Autumn-Class Heavy Cruisers. which are more advanced than the ship that spawned the entire class; The Pillar of Autumn, and are heavier than the Pillar too by about 1.1 Million Metric Tons (Pillar of Autumn is 9 Million Metric Tons), which coincidentally is the same mass of a Strident Class Frigate. (The 1.1 not 9)
> > > >
> > > > Stridents are 575 Meter Long, 1.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> > > > Autumn-Classes are 1,425 Meter long, 10.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> > > > and Epochs are 2,563 Meter long, 35 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> > >
> > > I know, I just think it would be very inefficient to use warships for such purpose.
> > > It’s like the Air Force uses double-seat fighters to transport troops. Yeah, they could do it. But why not just get an aircraft designed to transport troops or materials around?
> >
> > Are you saying a fleet of pelicans basically or a warship designed to hold troops?, the carrier is kind of the point of that and there are plenty of carrier classes out there, that seems like a bad idea, if referring to a fleet of pelicans, they’d be without support from a carrier, and loose the lostigical edge a carrier or supercarrier gives and the need for only a single slipspace drive mounted on the carrier if your going for FTL Pelicans/Condors, most small scale aerospace vehicles aside from the condor can’t mount a slipspace drive, and slipspace drives are expensive, better off on larger warships. you also need bunks, a messhall, cryostorage, medical facilities, bathroom and gym to keep these guys at tip top shape. and we know some warships do in fact have these facilities, like the UNSC Carrier Atlas’ gym that Chief beat up some ODSTs in. all you need is a couple carriers and a supercarrier and the appropriate detail of frigates and cruisers to defend them if you’re going for grand invasion of a planet. most UNSC ships like the Halberd-Class Destroyer are modular so it’s safe to assume that other vessels like carriers, can be kitted out in heavier troop transports. it’s honestly cost-effective to use a carrier when taking the slipspace drive into account.
>
> Not like a fleet of Slipspace-able pelicans or that kind of space/aircraft.
> I’m thinking something(at the bare minimum) like modern LHD/LHA or LPDs. Which, although not as a sole troop transport, have a role in transporting and supporting troops. Which unlike UNSC carriers, which supplies more aircraft than conventional Marine Expeditionary Forces. (FYI Pillar of Autumn carried 800 marines and an additional 400 ODST, I know’s it’s modified, but just throwing it out there)
> I mean Halbred destroyers are modular, but would an Arleigh Burke, even with its Mark 45, CIWS/Sea Sparrow, and VLS removed be suitable to carry a company of marines?
> I only made the metaphor of Air Force because warships like Frigates, Destroyers, Cruisers, and Carriers are designed for engagement.
I think the SoF is the closest thing to a LPD the UNSC has. I agree that a newer dedicated LPD class should be build instead of retrofitting civilian ships as was done with the Phenoix class. The Epoch and Orion classes are relatively underwhelming as carriers as their air compliments are usually quite small. The Punic class was too much of a strategic asset to be used in the role of troop transport, not saying it couldn’t be used in a secondary role to carry troops it wouldn’t be the best use of the class. Same can be said for the Epoch.
However I think it is more due to how the war was unfolding for the UNSC is why fighting and capital ships kept relatively large troop compliments so to quickly react to any potential scenario.
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> > > > > > The Epoch-Class Heavy Carrier is one such UNSC warship that the UNSC uses for transporting Troops, Marines, ect.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Epoch can carry up to 800 Marines, and up to 3 dropships (and 2 fighters) in 12 hangars. so that’s 36 Pelicans, and could transport up to 720 Marines in one run assuming they are kitted out with the 20 capacity over the standard 10. that’s ignoring Orbital support, air support, armored vehicle support, and ODSTs and whatever the hell the UNSC Army does to get its troops around to maintain the area, and other UNSC Aerospace vehicles and support like the refit Phoenix Class, and other vessels.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Infantry, marines, ect should be supported by Archer Strikes, Bident Missiles, and Hypersonic MAC Strikes and Artillery, which would help the ground battle severely and lessen the amount of Infantry Engagements and causalities. and that’s just assuming there is one Epoch class in a Leviathan sized battlegroup.
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean, 800 marines are just a battalion-size unit. I don’t think that’s nearly enough for any sensible ground campaign. Plus, it’s a heavy carrier, I don’t think the UNSC has much of any left or have the resources to produce similar size warships after the war.
> > > >
> > > > Oh the UNSC most certainly has the Industry to build plenty of ships since there are hundreds of Stridents and Anlace class Frigates being built on just Mars and Tribute.
> > > > so at least 200 to 300 frigates being built by two worlds. There is also the UNSC Eternity, a second Infinity Class Supercarrier in the works. plus the numerous Autumn-Class Heavy Cruisers. which are more advanced than the ship that spawned the entire class; The Pillar of Autumn, and are heavier than the Pillar too by about 1.1 Million Metric Tons (Pillar of Autumn is 9 Million Metric Tons), which coincidentally is the same mass of a Strident Class Frigate. (The 1.1 not 9)
> > > >
> > > > Stridents are 575 Meter Long, 1.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> > > > Autumn-Classes are 1,425 Meter long, 10.1 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> > > > and Epochs are 2,563 Meter long, 35 Million Metric Ton Warships.
> > >
> > > I know, I just think it would be very inefficient to use warships for such purpose.
> > > It’s like the Air Force uses double-seat fighters to transport troops. Yeah, they could do it. But why not just get an aircraft designed to transport troops or materials around?
> >
> > Are you saying a fleet of pelicans basically or a warship designed to hold troops?, the carrier is kind of the point of that and there are plenty of carrier classes out there, that seems like a bad idea, if referring to a fleet of pelicans, they’d be without support from a carrier, and loose the lostigical edge a carrier or supercarrier gives and the need for only a single slipspace drive mounted on the carrier if your going for FTL Pelicans/Condors, most small scale aerospace vehicles aside from the condor can’t mount a slipspace drive, and slipspace drives are expensive, better off on larger warships. you also need bunks, a messhall, cryostorage, medical facilities, bathroom and gym to keep these guys at tip top shape. and we know some warships do in fact have these facilities, like the UNSC Carrier Atlas’ gym that Chief beat up some ODSTs in. all you need is a couple carriers and a supercarrier and the appropriate detail of frigates and cruisers to defend them if you’re going for grand invasion of a planet. most UNSC ships like the Halberd-Class Destroyer are modular so it’s safe to assume that other vessels like carriers, can be kitted out in heavier troop transports. it’s honestly cost-effective to use a carrier when taking the slipspace drive into account.
>
> Not like a fleet of Slipspace-able pelicans or that kind of space/aircraft.
> I’m thinking something(at the bare minimum) like modern LHD/LHA or LPDs. Which, although not as a sole troop transport, have a role in transporting and supporting troops. Which unlike UNSC carriers, which supplies more aircraft than conventional Marine Expeditionary Forces. (FYI Pillar of Autumn carried 800 marines and an additional 400 ODST, I know’s it’s modified, but just throwing it out there)
> I mean Halbred destroyers are modular, but would an Arleigh Burke, even with its Mark 45, CIWS/Sea Sparrow, and VLS removed be suitable to carry a company of marines?
> I only made the metaphor of Air Force because warships like Frigates, Destroyers, Cruisers, and Carriers are designed for engagement.
OH, an LPD. okay okay I gotcha. The Closest thing would be the Modified Spirit of Fire then. Being able to carry 6000 Marines, 2000 Army and 1000 ODSTs, the ship is built up the wazoo for ground warfare with its factories, and chemical plants and massive stock of parts, firebases and vehicles.
So then the only thing then you’d need is a new class of LPD ship, perhaps pull an Autumn-class on all of the surviving Phoenix classes and convert them into a new transport vessel class or build a new one up from scratch with current design docrine.
My understanding is Phoenix type spacecraft, but perhaps even larger transports exist as well. We also know that Air Force aircraft operate off of Navy ships a lot (see Infinity) so they likely are transported via the carriers the operate off of.
Well you make what u need in the pre-war era you dealing with untrained milita ( like to day we use small elite units to take out goat farmers )
and with the covenant you only needed troops to evacuate colony’s since they just glass it from space …
you only needed large troops on colony’s with Mac grids
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> Well you make what u need in the pre-war era you dealing with untrained milita ( like to day we use small elite units to take out goat farmers )
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> and with the covenant you only needed troops to evacuate colony’s since they just glass it from space …
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> you only needed large troops on colony’s with Mac grids
The Covenant War basically proved the MAC grid to be ineffective.
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> > Well you make what u need in the pre-war era you dealing with untrained milita ( like to day we use small elite units to take out goat farmers )
> >
> > and with the covenant you only needed troops to evacuate colony’s since they just glass it from space …
> >
> > you only needed large troops on colony’s with Mac grids
>
> The Covenant War basically proved the MAC grid to be ineffective.
Yes it does! But it’s the thing that gives large army’s a chance
Fuel.
UNSC ran with “battle groups” you’d have multiple ships with compliments of marines. The thing about the UNSC is they didn’t really attack covenant planets on the ground in a full scale battle. The UNSC was on the defense since day 1 with Harvest. Human occupied for the far majority were UNSC worlds which had their own garrisons, police forces, militias and so forth. While the Insurrection (the human civil war) going on right before Harvest was going on it hadnt reached interplanetary with massive armies. It was surgical strike teams deploying against one another. That really leads to the lack of a “need” for large invasion transport ships. There were civilian colony ships which could house thousands of colonists such as the phoenix class you could theoretically say those could be transport ships for mass marine forces.
Yes, the transport ships are of course the same ones that travel in the galaxy, like The Pillar of Autumn and the thousands others